All Ireland SHC Final (formerly SHC thread) - READ MOD NOTE POST #1

windy shepard henderson

PTH2009 wrote: »

Draw will be
Galway vs Waterford
Cork vs Tipp

Galway and Waterford have been comsidered 3rd and 4th in the hurling workd for the last few years and why not pair them together too find out who's better

Cork vs Tipp is guaranteed €€€€€€ and it's an historic rivilary

the gaa and especially rte would love it to be tipperary v cork in the final , personally i think its too close to call , but there is huge pressure on a few counties here , galway have been knocking on the door fore years and missing out narrowly

waterford also but huge question marks over management and systems at times has mcgrath under almost constant pressure

cork have been brilliant all year but the true fact is there massive support would class 2017 a failure if they dont win the big one , and kingston comes under the spotlight again

its a long time since an all ireland wining team from the year before come under the radar so quietly ,

its anyone's to win really

windy shepard henderson

davidx40 wrote: »

What a crap game today , something has to be done about this sweeper **** , its a wonder crowds are dropping away going to games , if this kind of hurling continues the game is in serious trouble ....bore fest after bore fest

i would never go that far , yes it is terrible to watch ,

but the game is not in any danger , people are far more busier nowadays then ever before , more and more younger people working away from home also contributes to the drop in crowds also the cost of the day out can be huge on families

but i dont get the sweeper system , its not even a wining formula it might get you so far but teams will have to change from here out , the team that wins this year will be the one playing the most orthodox

mountgomery burns

davidx40 wrote: »

What a crap game today , something has to be done about this sweeper **** , its a wonder crowds are dropping away going to games , if this kind of hurling continues the game is in serious trouble ....bore fest after bore fest

Biggest attendances at games this year in a long time

big_drive

This weekends games make Galway look even stronger favourites for me

letowski

big_drive wrote: »

This weekends games make Galway look even stronger favourites for me

This is the biggest chance in about 2 or 3 decades. They have a better chance now than in 2012 in my opinion.

JRant

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

i would never go that far , yes it is terrible to watch ,

but the game is not in any danger , people are far more busier nowadays then ever before , more and more younger people working away from home also contributes to the drop in crowds also the cost of the day out can be huge on families

but i dont get the sweeper system , its not even a wining formula it might get you so far but teams will have to change from here out , the team that wins this year will be the one playing the most orthodox

The game is in bigger danger from the gombeens in HQ than anything else. Not a single thought was given to the fans this weekend. Today's game would have been a near sell out in Nowlan. Why in the name of jaysus was it all the way down in PUC. Same nonsense yesterday, should have been played in Limerick but oh no PUC has to have its gmbig weekend out and to hell with the fans.

TCDStudent1

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

the gaa and especially rte would love it to be tipperary v cork in the final , personally i think its too close to call , but there is huge pressure on a few counties here , galway have been knocking on the door fore years and missing out narrowly

waterford also but huge question marks over management and systems at times has mcgrath under almost constant pressure

cork have been brilliant all year but the true fact is there massive support would class 2017 a failure if they dont win the big one , and kingston comes under the spotlight again

its a long time since an all ireland wining team from the year before come under the radar so quietly ,

its anyone's to win really

hmmmm, why? Surely a Waterford - Galway final would be the dream final. Novel pairing, somebody who hasnt won it in years will win Liam. Scramble for tickets will be HUGE.

Mahony0509

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

hmmmm, why? Surely a Waterford - Galway final would be the dream final. Novel pairing, somebody who hasnt won it in years will win Liam. Scramble for tickets will be HUGE.

There will be 60000 from Cork travelling on August 13th. The GAA bank account needs Cork.

Django99

People really love to come out with extreme statements after games. Within the last few pages every team in the country has been called useless and it's been said that none of them will ever win anything. The game is dying and nobody is going to matches. Defensive hurling is ruining the game.

In reality, the 4 teams left are all at a similar level with Galway a little ahead in my opinion, but not much between any of them and results amongst themselves over this years and last years championship and league show that. Attendances this year are higher than they've been in a while, and will only increase as we come to the three biggest games of the year. There are more higher scoring games and teams scoring more than 20 points per game than ever before, consider in the 90s 1-13 and the likes could win an All Ireland final, and even in the 00s 1-14 and 0-17 were winning scores. Not a hope in hell any of those scores would come close to winning any of the remaining games. All three games will probably have both teams scoring 20+ points.

So complain about sweeper systems and whatever as much as anybody wants to, but they are actually leading to higher scoring games and in fact there are probably higher quality scores too considering they are gotten against extra defenders, or else from further out the field.

Let's not let hurling become like football where people watching the games (fans and pundits alike) are constantly moaning and yearning for the good old days when the standard was lower and the game was worse.

kala85

I think that Galway cork final would be the hardest to get a ticket for. Cork clare was very difficult to get tickets for. Cork a big county always bring massive support.

washman3

JRant wrote: »

The game is in bigger danger from the gombeens in HQ than anything else. Not a single thought was given to the fans this weekend. Today's game would have been a near sell out in Nowlan. Why in the name of jaysus was it all the way down in PUC. Same nonsense yesterday, should have been played in Limerick but oh no PUC has to have its gmbig weekend out and to hell with the fans.

Get used to it now, many more games will be fixed for Cork.
Limerick always seem to get a raw deal, cant understand why Clare don't push for more of their games to be played there.

JRant

washman3 wrote: »

Get used to it now, many more games will be fixed for Cork.
Limerick always seem to get a raw deal, cant understand why Clare don't push for more of their games to be played there.

Unfortunately I'd say you're spot on. They have a big bill to pay and to hell with the fans.

windy shepard henderson

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

hmmmm, why? Surely a Waterford - Galway final would be the dream final. Novel pairing, somebody who hasnt won it in years will win Liam. Scramble for tickets will be HUGE.

well yeah but you know the way they love to over hype things , rte love there rivalries ,

fact is if waterford meet galway it will get the whole country talking , even up north or anywhere where hurling is barely talked about , it would probably need no promotion and break viewership records ( truth be known i am back tracking ,......i never even considered a waterford v galway final until now )

redlead

JRant wrote: »

Unfortunately I'd say you're spot on. They have a big bill to pay and to hell with the fans.

That will have a big impact on attendances. It's a serious ordeal to get down to cork through all the traffic and then an even bigger ordeal to find parking before you have to walk a half marathon to the ground. All I was thinking about for half the game was how I was going to get out of the place. It's a lovely ground but it's in am awful location in a city that just can't absorb that level of traffic.

Powerhouse

kala85 wrote: »

I think that Galway cork final would be the hardest to get a ticket for. Cork clare was very difficult to get tickets for. Cork a big county always bring massive support.

Cork-Clare drawn game was the second lowest final attendance in the last dozen years.

Powerhouse

JRant wrote: »

Today's game would have been a near sell out in Nowlan. .

There was about 10k more at the game in Cork than Nowlan Park is capable of accommodating so the sale of tickets is a weak argument.

road_high

redlead wrote: »

That will have a big impact on attendances. It's a serious ordeal to get down to cork through all the traffic and then an even bigger ordeal to find parking before you have to walk a half marathon to the ground. All I was thinking about for half the game was how I was going to get out of the place. It's a lovely ground but it's in am awful location in a city that just can't absorb that level of traffic.

If they start putting Kilkenny matches way down in Cork, I know I won't be. Dublin is bad enough but you can still reach the M50 in circa 1 hour from here, and there's public transport options.
Thurles should have been re-developed or something, but no, Cork had to get its mini Croke Park. Bringing people from wexford all the way down there yesterday was madness. PUC could still have been reworked but more to county grounds level.

road_high

Powerhouse wrote: »

There was about 10k more at the game in Cork than Nowlan Park is capable of accommodating so the sale of tickets is a weak argument.

Not by choice...

paulie21

Galway v Tipp
Cork v Waterford

Powerhouse

road_high wrote: »

Not by choice...

What are you saying - that all those people were taken to Cork at gunpoint?

Powerhouse

Great draw for Cork.

KevIRL

redlead wrote: »

That will have a big impact on attendances. It's a serious ordeal to get down to cork through all the traffic and then an even bigger ordeal to find parking before you have to walk a half marathon to the ground. All I was thinking about for half the game was how I was going to get out of the place. It's a lovely ground but it's in am awful location in a city that just can't absorb that level of traffic.

Traffic getting into and out of cork was absolutely no bother yesterday.

road_high

Powerhouse wrote: »

What are you saying - that all those people were taken to Cork at gunpoint?

Not quite, but given the choice most from Wexford or east Waterford would have gone elsewhere. The travelling public/fans should have some say where matches are held.

deaddonkey15

I thought Limerick would have been ideal for Clare V Tipp. Hardly any championship hurling get's played in Limerick anymore.

road_high

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

I thought Limerick would have been ideal for Clare V Tipp. Hardly any championship hurling get's played in Limerick anymore.

And it's a fine stadium...unbelievable how much taxpayers money was spent on PUC, given we already have a load of under used Grounds (such as Limerick).

PTH2009

Guess I was wrong about the draw

Tipp vs Cork final I'm thinking

Mantis Toboggan

Mahony0509 wrote: »

The happiest supporters today are Cork and Galway fans. We have nothing to fear. Tipp and Waterford are two mediocre teams.

Probably true, Galway are head and shoulders ahead of everyone this year but it will be interesting to see how they deal with the pressure and expectation of being favourites.

Galway will never have a better chance to win an all Ireland.

namloc1980

road_high wrote: »

And it's a fine stadium...unbelievable how much taxpayers money was spent on PUC, given we already have a load of under used Grounds (such as Limerick).

Gaelic Grounds is a dump. Mackey stand is the worst stand in a large stadium in the country. Rubbish views and the angle of the stand is too flat.

Reputable Rog

namloc1980 wrote: »

Gaelic Grounds is a dump. Mackey stand is the worst stand in a large stadium in the country. Rubbish views and the angle of the stand is too flat.

The Mackey Stand is a joke beyond jokes. The Gaelic Grounds has no redeeming qualities but they are a bit hamstrung by their location and very vociferous neigbours who never seemed to take into account that the stadium was already there before a single house was built in Caherdavin or the surrounding area.

Moggy13

Powerhouse wrote: »

Great draw for Cork.

Great draw for Waterford