2018 Leaf

KCross

Dardania wrote: »

Very very tasty: https://charging.bmwgroup.com/web/wbdoc/wallbox-connect
Perfect solution rather than priority switches etc.

As like most things BMW it also has a tasty price! I think its about 2-3 times the price of a Rolec!

Dardania

KCross wrote: »

Dardania wrote: »

Very very tasty: https://charging.bmwgroup.com/web/wbdoc/wallbox-connect
Perfect solution rather than priority switches etc.

As like most things BMW it also has a tasty price! I think its about 2-3 times the price of a Rolec!

I suspect they don't throw in a modbus capable power meter to the box either...but either way, good technical solution to an annoying problem. As someone else was posting earlier in this thread, I noticed ESB Network's charges that the call out fee to replace a popped ESBN fuse was fairly high - you don't want to pop that fuses too often.

goz83

goz83 wrote: »

I'll take that junk off your hands if you do want rid. I won't even charge you

Seriously , you wouldn't want it !

goz83

Deleted User wrote: »

Seriously , you wouldn't want it !

I happen to have one and it sounds just grand. The other Leaf just has a hump where the bose system would be

Lol then I'd rather the hump ! :-)

josip

goz83 wrote: »

I happen to have one and it sounds just grand. The other Leaf just has a hump where the bose system would be

So do you have 2 Leafs or 2 Leaves?

cros13

Anyways.. back OT

Falcon L wrote: »

I wonder when they'll be available for test drives.

Official word from Nissan is that a small number of demo/showroom cars will arrive in late December with the first cars reaching new owners in February due to other markets getting priority over Ireland.

KCross

Any confirmation if 2018 Leaf is 40kWh total or usable?

DrPhilG

KCross wrote: »

Any confirmation if 2018 Leaf is 40kWh total or usable?

Most reports I've read say 40kwh usable but I haven't seen it anywhere official as yet.

cros13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncHybhwvxY4

KCross

DrPhilG wrote: »

KCross wrote: »

Any confirmation if 2018 Leaf is 40kWh total or usable?

Most reports I've read say 40kwh usable but I haven't seen it anywhere official as yet.

Yea, same here, hence looking for official confirmation.

If it's really 40kWh usable I would have expected Nissan to call it out as it's a major change in how they reported kWh in the past. They would surely clarify the change.

unkel

From the video it looks like ProPilot is exactly the same as on Ioniq. But the warning messages comes on a lot earlier (7s?) vs Ioniq (about 15s-20s). That's disappointing and to call it ProPilot is even more preposterous than the Tesla term Autopilot.

Gumbo

Sat nav screen looks small in the new car. Could have bumped it up me thinks.

ELM327

DrPhilG wrote: »

Most reports I've read say 40kwh usable but I haven't seen it anywhere official as yet.

You'd think they would have emphasised that, as the 24kWh and 30kWh are both denominated as notional capacity and not usable capacity.

positron

A lot of first review videos on Youtube now, for example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAysSoy8_Pc

cros13

So... Propilot got priced in the US as a $650 option. Selected by default on the SL (SVE equivalent).

US configurator is up:

https://www.nissanusa.com/electric-cars/2018-leaf/configure/

as is the Irish site: https://www.nissan.ie/vehicles/new-vehicles/leaf-2017.html

In other news... new app:

I'm happy you can finally set the temp for the climate control remotely.

Turn on the lights is also handy.

grogi

cros13 wrote: »

So... Propilot got priced in the US as a $650 option. Selected by default on the SL (SVE equivalent).

US configurator is up:

https://www.nissanusa.com/electric-cars/2018-leaf/configure/

as is the Irish site: https://www.nissan.ie/vehicles/new-vehicles/leaf-2017.html

In other news... new app:

SL is more expensive than entry level Tesla...

ewj1978

Never understand why they don't just come out with real world range. 378km pffft. 🙄
240-280 depending on your driving style/weather etc.

kerten

ewj1978 wrote: »

Never understand why they don't just come out with real world range. 378km pffft. ��
240-280 depending on your driving style/weather etc.

I guess it is to lure clueless ICE owners looking for 300 miles range to showroom then tell them the real range verbally by explaining why it is enough.

macnab

ewj1978 wrote: »

Never understand why they don't just come out with real world range. 378km pffft. 🙄
240-280 depending on your driving style/weather etc.

I think Nissan have been conservative with their 150 mile range estimate.
Some of the test cycles should be scrapped ie NEDC and the Japanese 08 test are a joke.
The EPA test is the only test that comes close to real world range.

cros13

Ah now, without JC08 how would you know what the range would be with a 120km/h tailwind?

DrPhilG

ewj1978 wrote: »

Never understand why they don't just come out with real world range. 378km pffft. 🙄
240-280 depending on your driving style/weather etc.

I've been battling with Nissan Ireland on Facebook about that this last few days.

They are being deliberately misleading. When questioned on the 378km they just repeat it again. When I called them out for their BS they claimed that they have to state the NEDC range by law, even though Renault have been very open in stating the NEDC but also making it clear that the real life range would not match it.

cros13

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQBupeHVJwA

40 mins to 80% ?

I kind of like the Blue.

So 80% of 38 Kwh usable capacity =30.4 Kwh. = 40 mins @ 65-70 Kw not bad but could / should be a lot better, should be able to handle at least 100 Kw.... up 15 Kw from the 30 Kwh Leaf in 2 years ? yeah stil;l way better than my 24 Kwh and to be honest I won;t be using the public network much with 250 odd kms range.

Work charging will meet 100% + of my commute. And I'm very interested in the prospect of having leaf to home , charge at work, use some to power the house and still have enough to get back up to work !

I need around 28 ish Kwh currently to complete my 142 Km commute driving pretty hard/fast 120-135 Kph. Should be less in a more efficient Leaf.

Soarer

Is it not 40kWh usable?

DrPhilG

Soarer wrote: »

Is it not 40kWh usable?

Most seem to think so but I can't see it confirmed anywhere.

Water John

Ah PhilG, why would you bother? We all know these, what in reality are, theorethical tests are nonsense.

We'll just have to wait for, independent driver experience.
Maybe, drivers in each country should select a few drives that give the variables that are likely to be experienced. These then can form an independent basis for rating each make and model.

grogi

DrPhilG wrote: »

Most seem to think so but I can't see it confirmed anywhere.

Who cares? It's mostly the range and time to charge, not battery capacity in kWh, that matter.

Soarer

Thinking out loud.

If the new Leaf's motor and battery are the same form factor as the old ones, and the new Leaf is coming in at the same price point as the current one, does it stand to reason that we'll be able to get the new 40kWh battery swapped into the current Leaf at the current price point of €5k?