RTE want to double TV licence fee

Flippyfloppy

Tv licences are such a load of balls. I don't have Tv subscription anymore, however I do have a Tv I use to watch online Tv. So I still have to pay tubbs wages??? Why do we alllw this??

Venom

bladespin wrote: »

If you connect the android box to a HDMI tv, that still has the tuner (even if it's not used), you still have to have a licence? I think yes but open to correction.

To the best of my knowledge, yes.

The TV license is based on your TV having a tuner hence RTE and various political stooges have made noises about changing it to include devices that can access the internet in the past.

This would be great for RTE but add unwanted expense onto the backs of the general public who could get hit with a bill even if they only have a wi-fi/internet linked heating system, washing machine or fridge nevermind a mobile phone!

bladespin

Venom wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge, yes.

So, if I remove the blighter and bin it, I no longer need a licence for the TV?

Venom

bladespin wrote: »

So, if I remove the blighter and bin it, I no longer need a licence for the TV?

I think you would need to buy one of those tuner-less TV's that were linked to earlier in this thread to be fully covered legally. Realistically, there going to become the norm not to far down the road due to how popular streaming devices have become along with saving the manufacturer material costs and the hassle of having to have so many different models depending on where the TV will be sold.

Seanachai

Venom wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge, yes.

The TV license is based on your TV having a tuner hence RTE and various political stooges have made noises about changing it to include devices that can access the internet in the past.

This would be great for RTE but add unwanted expense onto the backs of the general public who could get hit with a bill even if they only have a wi-fi/internet linked heating system, washing machine or fridge nevermind a mobile phone!

The burden of Pat Rabbitte

animaal

Venom wrote: »

I think you would need to buy one of those tuner-less TV's that were linked to earlier in this thread to be fully covered legally.

Yes, my understanding is that the relevant law refers generally to devices capable of receiving broadcasts, rather than specifically to a "TV". So a screen or Monitor by itself without a tuner is fine, but a cable box (Sky/Virgin/Saorview) would be considered to be a "device capable of receiving a broadcast".

bladespin

animaal wrote: »

Yes, my understanding is that the relevant law refers generally to devices capable of receiving broadcasts, rather than specifically to a "TV". So a screen or Monitor by itself without a tuner is fine, but a cable box (Sky/Virgin/Saorview) would be considered to be a "device capable of receiving a broadcast".

At this stage we're streaming just about everything, we never had much time to actually watch tv so most used to be Sky plus type viewing but that's morphing into streamed boxsets etc.
I can honestly see the time coming when the Sky box goes too, save €60 per month and €160/320 per year - WIN-WIN!!!

fiachr_a

An Post get to increase their stamp prices by 38% yet are responsible for millions in € of TV licence fees owed not getting collected.

Cantona's Collars

fiachr_a wrote: »

An Post get to increase their stamp prices by 38% yet are responsible for millions in € of TV licence fees owed not getting collected.

It's going to be put up for tender soon.The new head of RTE said she'd like to see the introduction of the Italian model where the license fee was tacked onto the electricity bill and by that method the fee actually went down due to lack of evasion.

kidneyfan

In Japan the license fee is extracted from your bank account once a year and there is no appeal against it.

1874

Mr E wrote: »

http://entertainment.ie/tv/news/Everybody-relax-you-wont-have-to-pay-double-for-your-TV-license-fee/391629.htm

That is the sound of backpedalling,

Ive no idea what the statement in entertainement.ie means, "that is the sound of digging up"??? I googled it and nothing comes up, but results for exhuming and digging graves, I'm guessing its one of those bluesky meaning/aka bull$hit speak, is entertainment.ie connected to rte?

suicide_circus wrote: »

I have no traditional tv service. We stream stuff on the laptop and chromecast it to the telly screen. RTE do a couple of things well such as Prime Time Investigates and some radio shows like John Creedon. Most of their "original content" (read poor imitations of hit British shows) is truly dreadful car crash cringeworthy viewing. Joe Duffy's misery porn show is a self parody at this stage. Ray D'arcy is insufferable beyond belief. And yet i pay the license fee....but i wont be paying double. I can only assume that the controller general is aiming high with the ridiculous sum of €320 in the hope of getting some slight increase.

this is what it is, to make the x figure they pull out of their ar$e more palateable,

Venom wrote: »

To the best of my knowledge, yes.

The TV license is based on your TV having a tuner hence RTE and various political stooges have made noises about changing it to include devices that can access the internet in the past.

This would be great for RTE but add unwanted expense onto the backs of the general public who could get hit with a bill even if they only have a wi-fi/internet linked heating system, washing machine or fridge nevermind a mobile phone!

no forward thinking, just watching some programming (not tv, its on bbc.co.uk) with interesting information on the IOT, internet of things and some insight intot the disadvantages, I cant say Im that happy that in the future standalone device like washing machines etc will likely be unavailable in a non connected/networked form, but it seems its coming.
Im sure RTE will confirm the licence will cover washing machines though, proabaly better watching that than RTE.

Sephiroth_dude

The current crop in RTE are a bunch of talentless over paid morons, they don't allow people too come up decent original content anymore by the looks of it and if they do and the series is a hit, RTE normally don't bother renewing it, I wish they would go back too the days where rte had some talent like Dermot Morgan, Mike Murphy etc at least they largely let them do what they wanted and the content was good.

inforfun

kidneyfan wrote: »

In Japan the license fee is extracted from your bank account once a year and there is no appeal against it.

Yeah... but Japanese TV is absolutely fantastic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYAtoVwfeco

fiachr_a

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

The current crop in RTE are a bunch of talentless over paid morons, they don't allow people too come up decent original content anymore

Wasn't Baz let go from RTE and then he devised 50 ways to kill your mammy?

please helpThank YOU

RTE Can get stuffed.

Broken Hearted Road

I wouldn't be too happy about such a large increase in TV licence fee.

There was talk before of a broadcasting charge to cover other devices aside from TV which I don't think is very fair. I have a budget smart phone and far from watching TV on it I do. I did have the rte player app on my phone before to catch up on things I missed but I deleted it recently to make space on the phone.

I used to know one person and I could lump a few more into a here too and their main past time was watching TV and drama whores they were/are. Everything that came from their mouths was like a soap opera script and dishing out so much muck and drama and stress. I'd love to know if there's been any studies in relation to this.

Something else I thought about is cheap American TV filtering down into real life. This evident with some Irish children, never having stepped foot outside from Ireland and into America and speaking with American accents picked up from watching television. I reckon too some television would be to blame for teenage bullying and could be seen from young girls. I see this myself. Young girls behaving as if they are staring in their own movie, hair flicking and looking back at others and having a laugh at those they see are beneath them.

I would be in favour of some sort of controls over television but I don't know how something like that could be worked.

Venom

animaal wrote: »

Yes, my understanding is that the relevant law refers generally to devices capable of receiving broadcasts, rather than specifically to a "TV". So a screen or Monitor by itself without a tuner is fine, but a cable box (Sky/Virgin/Saorview) would be considered to be a "device capable of receiving a broadcast".

I wonder if the current law would stand up to a legal challenge in this day and age, if they tried to prosecute someone who used a Sky/VM box for not paying the license fee.

While I see how Sky even tho they use such a closed system, could be considered a broadcaster in the general sense would Virgin, as to me there more like a streaming service?

1874 wrote: »

no forward thinking, just watching some programming (not tv, its on bbc.co.uk) with interesting information on the IOT, internet of things and some insight intot the disadvantages, I cant say Im that happy that in the future standalone device like washing machines etc will likely be unavailable in a non connected/networked form, but it seems its coming.
Im sure RTE will confirm the licence will cover washing machines though, proabaly better watching that than RTE.

IOT devices still have to come a huge way before they could be considered mainstream enough for most of the public to get on board. Currently each device needs its own app so an open standard needs to be in place so everything can be controlled from 1 app.

You also have the issue of companies changing their product line every few years just to get consumers to buy there new toys which is wearing thin for phones and tablets but for things like heating, lights, fridges and washing machines is just a no go.

lertsnim

bladespin wrote: »

If you connect the android box to a HDMI tv, that still has the tuner (even if it's not used), you still have to have a licence? I think yes but open to correction.

Anything with a television tuner. So you can have an old VCR and no television but would still be required to have a tv licence. If you have a Sky box a licence is also required even if you dont have a television.

Sephiroth_dude

fiachr_a wrote: »

Wasn't Baz let go from RTE and then he devised 50 ways to kill your mammy?

He was wasted at rte anyway.

bladespin

lertsnim wrote: »

Anything with a television tuner. So you can have an old VCR and no television but would still be required to have a tv licence. If you have a Sky box a licence is also required even if you dont have a television.

Thought that, better get the screw driver out, once that's pulled and in the bin I'll be happy. The other stuff you mention was trashed years back.

Dave_The_Sheep

lertsnim wrote: »

Anything with a television tuner. So you can have an old VCR and no television but would still be required to have a tv licence. If you have a Sky box a licence is also required even if you dont have a television.

What about having a TV without any kind of reception gear (ie aerial, sky box, freebox, etc) ?

Just a TV sitting on the table, nothing attached.

lertsnim

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

What about having a TV without any kind of reception gear (ie aerial, sky box, freebox, etc) ?

Just a TV sitting on the table, nothing attached.

If it has a tuner then it makes no difference what's connected to it.

bladespin

previous user wrote: »

Haven't payed a Tv license since
I was born, so y'all can go suck it!!!!

Worst thing you can do is to make the mistake of getting yourself on a database, once they have that, they pretty much have you.

masculinist

bladespin wrote: »

Thought that, better get the screw driver out, once that's pulled and in the bin I'll be happy. The other stuff you mention was trashed years back.

Unfortunately the legislation states that if the yoke can be repaired then you're liable for a TV licence.

So either get a Vizio branded tunerless TV or get a flat screen computer monitor [which never came with a Tuner] with remote control which looks identical to a TV but isnt.

bladespin

masculinist wrote: »

Unfortunately the legislation states that if the yoke can be repaired then you're liable for a TV licence.

So either get a Vizio branded tunerless TV or get a flat screen computer monitor [which never came with a Tuner] with remote control which looks identical to a TV but isnt.

Believe me, unleashing me with a solder iron it'd be well beyond repair

Just googling Vizio, they're actually quite a bit cheaper than I thought they'd be, not really looking at the 120" unit lol but.......:D

please helpThank YOU

I know of a house the TV license inspector called to a Man/homeowner answered the door. to TV license inspector and told him he did not have a TV . and the TV license inspector pointed his finger at his roof TV aerial whats that? so your Man/homeowner you must have a TV? and your Man/homeowner pointed his finger at a point of milk outside his door does that mean I have a cow inside my home?. he slammed the door in the TV license inspector face saying get stuffed.

fiachr_a

That story was in this week's Munster or News & Star!

Jayop

And as if one of their primary bias wasn't clear enough before, their main evening new broadcast tonight didn't show anything about the McGuiness funeral for 31 minutes. I believe it was after the second ad break.

Johngoose

They might change their minds when they sell the land around R.T.E. that they are proposing to sell.Fcukin Cnuts all the same.

luketitz

Bring back Kevo and Mary Kingston