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RTE want to double TV licence fee

  • 22-03-2017 12:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/its-incredible-value-for-money-rtes-new-director-general-thinks-licence-fee-should-be-doubled-35554991.html

    So the director general who earns €250,000 a year which is paid by you and me through out tv licence fee thinks it should be doubled (to €320) a year as its 'terrific value for money' Well the silly old cow would say that wouldn't she but she's having a laugh if she thinks RTE is terrific value for money.

    I watch the news at 6 or 9pm maybe 2 or 3 times a week and that's it, RTE have absolutely nothing else of interest to me so I certainly don't think its value for money, it think its a complete rip off considering the shíte they routinely dole out over the airwaves. `


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,321 ✭✭✭Brego888


    They can f**k right off. RTE needs to be wound down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    They should turn it into a pay service. Then people can decide for themselves if it is terrific value, or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,759 ✭✭✭Winterlong


    Here is an idea Madam Controller.

    Get rid of the licence fee and make your tv channels only available if you buy a subscription based device/service. See how many people really want your 'value for money' offering.

    And let RTE radio stand on its own two feet.

    Edit: Knasher beat me to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,123 ✭✭✭eviltimeban


    I never listen to the radio. I never watch RTE TV channels - save for the 6 Nations recently (which is now moving to TV3 anyway).

    Not great value for money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    So we can line that toffynosed prick tubridys pockets, or how we can continue on hearing how much Ray Darcy loves Jenny and his kid.

    And we need to pay 320 for the pleasure.... Sigh


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    'terrific value for money'
    Chat shows with RTE hosts interviewing their RTE mates is not value for money.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    And then?

    What would you do with all the "saved" money?

    Give it in grants to independent content producers perhaps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,921 ✭✭✭buried


    She crazy yo

    Make America Get Out of Here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    Brego888 wrote: »
    They can f**k right off. RTE needs to be wound down.

    And then?

    What would you do with all the "saved" money?
    You mean all the 'not wasted' money ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    RTE can go and ask the back of my bollox.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    At least Stalin and the lads tried to keep the cost of Pravda reasonable.

    I wouldn't cry after RTE. Some good things over the years, but on balance - no tears would be shed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/its-incredible-value-for-money-rtes-new-director-general-thinks-licence-fee-should-be-doubled-35554991.html

    So the director general who earns €250,000 a year which is paid by you and me through out tv licence fee thinks it should be doubled (to €320) a year as its 'terrific value for money' Well the silly old cow would say that wouldn't she but she's having a laugh if she thinks RTE is terrific value for money.

    I watch the news at 6 or 9pm maybe 2 or 3 times a week and that's it, RTE have absolutely nothing else of interest to me so I certainly don't think its value for money, it think its a complete rip off considering the shíte they routinely dole out over the airwaves. `


    Right everyone , a survey

    1. Who still watches tv on a daily basis? Weekend?
    2. Who watches RTE on a daily basis? Weekend? Christmas?
    3. Who can say that the RTE radio Stations are their main radio stations (a lot I would imagine)
    4. Who uses their website and RTE Player? How many times a week?
    5. Who watched RTE's Olympic Coverage as their main source (I did in fairness, and Peter Collins was great)

    Sports , which RTE TV and Radio DO a very good job on. But, if you were really stuck, there are several alternative ways that you can watch what they covered


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    What happened the so called broadcasting charge??


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    I never listen to the radio. I never watch RTE TV channels - save for the 6 Nations recently (which is now moving to TV3 anyway).

    Not great value for money.

    So, what is the purpose of Ryle Nugent then if Rugby goes to TV3?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,790 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    That's a hard no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Neon_Lights


    Sigh civil servants


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Brego888 wrote: »
    They can f**k right off. RTE needs to be wound down.

    Burned to the ground!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Dear RTE,

    Get bent.


    Sincerely,

    Everyone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    1. Who still watches tv on a daily basis? Weekend?

    Like I said I watch the news at 6/9pm a few times a week.

    2. Who watches RTE on a daily basis? Weekend? Christmas?

    I cant think of a single program that I watch on a regular basis.

    3. Who can say that the RTE radio Stations are their main radio stations (a lot I would imagine)

    Nope, local and Today FM/Newstalk.

    4. Who uses their website and RTE Player? How many times a week?
    Never used it.

    5. Who watched RTE's Olympic Coverage as their main source (I did in fairness, and Peter Collins was great)

    Watched the Olympics on BBC.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    But if we do not pay double or even triple the current fee the talented people in RTE will be poached by other broadcasters in the U.K. /sarc.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭kidneyfan


    topper75 wrote: »
    At least Stalin and the lads tried to keep the cost of Pravda reasonable.

    I wouldn't cry after RTE. Some good things over the years, but on balance - no tears would be shed.
    Not really many good things.
    They don't have a tradition of fearless investigative journalism; if they did we wouldn't have all these tribunals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Taxburden carrier


    Lt Dan wrote: »
    I never listen to the radio. I never watch RTE TV channels - save for the 6 Nations recently (which is now moving to TV3 anyway).

    Not great value for money.

    So, what is the purpose of Ryle Nugent ?

    Fixed that for you .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Move all entertainment/soaps/sport to RTE2. Make it subscription only digital/streamed.
    Keep RTE1 for news, current affairs and the like.
    Cut half of the radio stations.
    Turn off half the masts and spend the money on broadband provision instead.
    Drop Saorsat.
    Sack the top 10 highest paid presenters.
    Cut the licence fee in half.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    RTE over pay their main presenters, they have revenue from adverts, revenue from sponsors, revenue from the TV license.
    They provide misery on light entertainment programs, and want to charge us more for trying to depress us on Friday and Saturday nights.

    I don't think people will stand for such an obscene increase in the license fee.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,279 ✭✭✭kidneyfan


    Lt Dan wrote: »
    Right everyone , a survey

    1. Who still watches tv on a daily basis? Weekend?
    2. Who watches RTE on a daily basis? Weekend? Christmas?
    3. Who can say that the RTE radio Stations are their main radio stations (a lot I would imagine)
    4. Who uses their website and RTE Player? How many times a week?
    5. Who watched RTE's Olympic Coverage as their main source (I did in fairness, and Peter Collins was great)

    Sports , which RTE TV and Radio DO a very good job on. But, if you were really stuck, there are several alternative ways that you can watch what they covered
    2 The news most days
    3 Morning Ireland
    4 My parents do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,129 ✭✭✭R P McMurphy


    Manach wrote: »
    But if we do not pay double or even triple the current fee the talented people in RTE will be poached by other broadcasters in the U.K. /sarc.

    Most if the cast of fair city would be off to Hollywood in the morning. It would be a national disaster but would rejuvenate the US movie and television business


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭Kamili


    That RTE player on android is a load of doggy doo doo - nothing but adverts for what feels like an age then more adverts. I uninstalled it cos I never got to watch anything.

    Same online - adverts every 20 seconds..


    As for the RTE fat cats, why oh why do we need to pay the likes of Tubridy and d'arcy? They are full of their own self importance and cringeworthy to watch.

    Can't stand the toy show either. Its all about tubs not the kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,088 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Lt Dan wrote: »
    Right everyone , a survey

    1. Who still watches tv on a daily basis? Weekend?
    2. Who watches RTE on a daily basis? Weekend? Christmas?
    3. Who can say that the RTE radio Stations are their main radio stations (a lot I would imagine)
    4. Who uses their website and RTE Player? How many times a week?
    5. Who watched RTE's Olympic Coverage as their main source (I did in fairness, and Peter Collins was great)

    Sports , which RTE TV and Radio DO a very good job on. But, if you were really stuck, there are several alternative ways that you can watch what they covered

    1. I watch TV daily, but mostly non-live TV
    2. Nope. Occasionally might watch the news but that's it, although even at that I generally get my news elsewhere
    3. Nope. Generally Newstalk or MP3s in the car
    4. Nope
    5. Nope. Occasionally might watch a football match but as you say they're also generally on other stations anyway.

    Could quite happily live without RTE completely to be honest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    They can start making more of their own output rather than using taxpayers money to outbid the likes of TV3 and TG4 for foreign shows (thus driving up the costs for all involved), and/or get into serious discussions about a more even distribution of taxpayers money among other stations than just RTE... Then maybe we can talk.

    Still, it's likely just holding off the inevitable as alternatives such as netflix etc (both legal and otherwise) begin to send them to the wall. In that instance I can see the British population being happy to continue to pay for the service the BBC provides, and/or for them to be able to compete in such a market due to the depth and quality of their productions (not just costly production values, but actual quality of content which many of the TG4 documentaries for example prove so not need to cost an arm and a leg)... Can the same be said for RTE? Not a chance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Ah lads someone needs to keep Ray D'Arcy in the porridge, and socks and sandals lifestyle he has become accustomed.

    Tighten the belts, dig deep and pay up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I never watch RTE. I use streaming services. The only time I look at their site is when someone here links to it. I'm a news junkie but I have an Irish Times subscription so that takes care of Irish news for me. I go to other sites for international news.

    I literally have no interest in any RTE programming or services and they expect me to pay 320 a year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭CaptainR


    I love how they can charge people to watch their TV channel which also has ads on it. How is that justified?

    Also I believe that Daniel and Majella's roadtrip is a solid legal defence for not paying the TV licence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    That Tommy Tiernan chat show was entertaining. It showed up the standard RTE stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭Summer wind


    Absolutely ridiculous idea. No way anyone will pay that much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    No, they don't.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Of all the stealthy crappy taxes I hate paying here, paying for this absolute whopper of a 'service' is top of it. TV stations that primarily focus on showing repeats of the worst TV from around the world. Home grown produce that would generally make you want to gouge you're eyes out. News so biases it would make Pravda blush and digital services up to the standard of pre broadband websites.

    If there's a game on Rte and I'm at the office so have to watch online I'll invariably watch on an illegal site because the quality is so much better than their offerings. Scrap the TV license or scrap add. Either way scrap half or more of what they do. Let them do a bit of public service broadcasting.

    Scrap at least one of their orchestras too while were at it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,367 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    Yeah, double away, see how many people start to risk 10 minutes in the joy instead of being shafted by RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭CaptainR


    diomed wrote: »
    That Tommy Tiernan chat show was entertaining. It showed up the standard RTE stuff.

    One of the best things about that was Tommy not recognising Vogue Williams and other RTE darling's, it really showed up the likes of Tubs who have a load of researchers feeding him information to make the guest seem well known.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    Most if the cast of fair city would be off to Hollywood in the morning. It would be a national disaster but would rejuvenate the US movie and television business

    My bollocks they would. Only place they would be off to is the dole ques.


    1. Who still watches tv on a daily basis? Weekend?
    Recorded or online for me.

    2. Who watches RTE on a daily basis? Weekend? Christmas?
    Only the news if something really big happens like elections or the recent Mccabe scandal.

    3. Who can say that the RTE radio Stations are their main radio stations
    Radio in kitchen been set to Newstalk for longer than I can remember.

    4. Who uses their website and RTE Player? How many times a week?
    Used it once over in the mothers for some show she missed. Didn't work.

    5. Who watched RTE's Olympic Coverage as their main source
    Watched the Olympics on BBC, same coverage + no ads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,789 ✭✭✭Alf Stewart.


    What happened the so called broadcasting charge??

    Water charges killed them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    I don't pay it anyway. Double €0 is still €0. No change for me.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Venom wrote: »
    My bollocks they would. Only place they would be off to is the dole ques.


    1. Who still watches tv on a daily basis? Weekend?
    Recorded or online for me.

    2. Who watches RTE on a daily basis? Weekend? Christmas?
    Only the news if something really big happens like elections or the recent Mccabe scandal.

    3. Who can say that the RTE radio Stations are their main radio stations
    Radio in kitchen been set to Newstalk for longer than I can remember.

    4. Who uses their website and RTE Player? How many times a week?
    Used it once over in the mothers for some show she missed. Didn't work.

    5. Who watched RTE's Olympic Coverage as their main source
    Watched the Olympics on BBC, same coverage + no ads.

    I think the poster was being sarcastic about Fair City.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Lt Dan


    Billy86 wrote: »
    They can start making more of their own output rather than using taxpayers money to outbid the likes of TV3 and TG4 for foreign shows (thus driving up the costs for all involved), and/or get into serious discussions about a more even distribution of taxpayers money among other stations than just RTE... Then maybe we can talk.

    Still, it's likely just holding off the inevitable as alternatives such as netflix etc (both legal and otherwise) begin to send them to the wall. In that instance I can see the British population being happy to continue to pay for the service the BBC provides, and/or for them to be able to compete in such a market due to the depth and quality of their productions (not just costly production values, but actual quality of content which many of the TG4 documentaries for example prove so not need to cost an arm and a leg)... Can the same be said for RTE? Not a chance.

    Bingo. TG4 the best station in the country.

    Documentaries have always been great. Sports is solid too, they will probably even cover the Dubai races on Saturday. The best station for Club Championships. Have tried their own Irish Language drama , Ros Na Ruin which has been ongoing for years . Always had BABES reading the news or telling the weather (then getting robbed by RTE)

    All on peanuts

    Pat Kenny proved that , the grass is not always greener when they will Montrose. He is an excellent radio broadcaster but has Newstalk got stronger when he turned the dial? His tv career has gone . First UTV and a few shows with TV3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,145 ✭✭✭LETHAL LADY


    Can you still buy the RTE guide?
    That's a ridiculous waste of money if it's still being published.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Is there a list of programs that are only on rte. Everything else is a waste of money.


    I only watch room to improve and even that is not top notch tv


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭circadian


    If this happens I may as well walk into RTE HQ and pull down me nags and bend over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 809 ✭✭✭filbert the fox


    I don't pay it anyway. Double €0 is still €0. No change for me.:)

    Ok so now we have gotten to the crux of the matter.

    Since time immemorial the threat of being caught without a TV Licence was emphasised whether it be "the TV detector van" or that moronic "...better way to blow €1000 than..."
    there is a culture of evasion in this context.

    The 265,000+ tv consumers who won't pay for a paltry €3.075 a week (19% of Television owners) are directly responsible for this situation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,984 ✭✭✭Venom


    RobertKK wrote: »
    I think the poster was being sarcastic about Fair City.

    I know but its the same old argument rolled out by RTE to try and justify the wages their top muppets get paid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 441 ✭✭Areas


    This taken from the RTÉ website: Speaking to RTÉ News, Ms Forbes said it is nonsense to suggest she would encourage the doubling of the licence fee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,431 ✭✭✭MilesMorales1


    For the rubbish RTE puts on? No chance.


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