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Topics bloggers should avoid

  • 15-02-2017 1:03pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭


    I just a snap that makes me very nervous from a blogger saying have a baby is easy and you should go for it. It makes me uncomfortable on account of the amount of young girls watching who are easily influenced.

    Then I was thinking about weight loss and other advice and there's topics I personally think shouldn't be used for a blog as need expertise to explain how they work. Medical advice which I have seen bloggers talk about, weight loss is a big one. I see so many bloggers who don't know about a balanced diet. Over exercising is another one.

    I'm not talking about the specific bloggers but more an industry wide issue. Does anyone else see this as an issue?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 dolly16


    I saw those baby snaps yesterday from Grace and genuinely feel it's something she shouldn't be saying. Go on, have a baby... all the gullible teens that follow her. She has no cop on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭westernlass


    I think if it's a nurse talking about skincare it's different but there's a lot who talk about products that don't understand what they are saying too. I know the more into the cosmetology range you go the more you need expert advice. I love the skin nerd and have realized how much bad advice has been given by others from listening to her. She is trained and I trust her because of that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭westernlass


    duplicate post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭westernlass


    duplicate post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2 Mrsmightymouse


    I saw those snaps this morning too and I felt so uncomfortable watching them. I definitely think it was not a thought out reply and wonder does she realise the majority of her followers are young impressionable girls. Having a baby is not easy, I have two, my first was also an easy child but it is not something I would blithely recommend to someone over Snapchat!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    I think baby/child snaps should not happen. It is serious intrusion into child's privacy. That being said if someone has a child because blogger said so, I wouldn't blame blogger but sheer stupidity of the follower. That is not being impressionable but being dumb beyond help.

    As for other topics that should be avoided - any alternative health claims, detoxing advice, alternative medication helth claims, vaccination claims and similar nonsense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Actually cannot believe she told the follower to go for it. She actually said "how amazing is that", eh no how troubling and worrying is that that this is what society has come to. Person watches Grace and her baby on Snapchat and decides she wants a baby too. She prob has no idea how old this girl is, her financial situation etc.. Such an idiotic thing to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,856 ✭✭✭ratmouse


    The leading fashion /beauty bloggers should not, in my opinion, be giving advice to young, impressionable teenagers about loving themselves and their bodies and being happy with who they are and what they have looks and body wise. This is completely futile advice coming from these bloggers where the bloggers themselves have, quite obviously, had surgical and invasive work done to their own bodies and often have not declared it. It's not being honest with the young followers and actually goes against the advice they are giving to be happy with your body when they themselves obviously aren't happy and made changes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,767 ✭✭✭GingerLily


    I feel most sorry for any new mom's struggling watching a SC like that and feeling like a failure, not all women have it easy when it comes to motherhood, PND is only part of it "(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭westernlass


    I actually hate when bloggers apologise for not having make up on.  It's a big thing for me as it said out a message that you should apologise when in fact make up is not a necessity in society and totally a choice.  Also apologising for using filters to look better


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    GingerLily wrote: »
    I feel most sorry for any new mom's struggling watching a SC like that and feeling like a failure, not all women have it easy when it comes to motherhood, PND is only part of it "(

    But that's the same without bloggers. From Beyonce to newspapers to ads to movies. I think there are ethical questions around certain things (again constant snapping of kids) but you can't expect people just avoiding saying anything so someone somewhere wouldn't be offended or hurt, wouldn't feel too skinny, too fat, ugly, unpopular and so on. That's life.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭Ray37


    I've seen a lot of them flogging vitamins, doesn't sit well with me at all. Also the inundation of snaps of their kids/family members, not only is it super invasive, I find it so boring and really don't care to hear all the baby talk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭westernlass


    Yes vitamins can be a strange one as it's in medical area. I don't see anyone saying I make this smoothie and find X Y and Z vegetables /fruit good for getting certain vitamins too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Lindy97


    Vitamins, detox products, supplements and even specialist skincare would be thing's that spring to mind.

    Its beyond irresponsible for a blogger to tell someone they dont know or all their followers (and therefore dont know their personal circumstances) to go ahead and have a baby as its so easy. Even as a lighthearted conversation its ridiculous and stupid and she should know better. Even the most positive experiences are hard work not to mention the fact pregnancy and childbirth take a serious toll on your body and carry risks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭qxtasybe1nwfh2


    I was shocked at grace telling people who were thinking about having a baby to go for it! Especially when you see how young majority of their followers seem to be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭SpillingTheTea


    I think bloggers/influencers should avoid giving advice on vitamins, supplements & babies as I think that unless they are doctors, nurses or healthcare professionals they shouldn't make flippant statements. They are beauty and fashion bloggers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Potatocup


    Does anyone notice the way JJ talks to her baby, like full on giving out to the baby for pooing or crying or not sleeping, poor child!! It's constant and always in a harsh tone, I just find it a bit much!!

    Grace need to seriously put the phone down around her baby and give the child some privacy, the poor child looks so confused when grace is talking to her but yet looking at her phone!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭purplecow1977


    I worry about the next generation. They're told they have to regularly get nails, makeup, hair and hair extensions done.

    So superficial.

    Is it the Kardashians that are to blame!

    Babies and medical advice of any strength should be banned from snaps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭SpillingTheTea


    Potatocup wrote: »
    Does anyone notice the way JJ talks to her baby, like full on giving out to the baby for pooing or crying or not sleeping, poor child!! It's constant and always in a harsh tone, I just find it a bit much!!

    Grace need to seriously put the phone down around her baby and give the child some privacy, the poor child looks so confused when grace is talking to her but yet looking at her phone!!

    Honestly, I found those snaps quite hard to watch, only because I do think that bloggers shouldn't post things of their babies online. I mean, clearly her baby wasn't well. She seemed more concerned about the pooing on the bed and the getting sick up on the carpet. If that was my baby, I wouldn't be sitting there snapping the whole thing while my baby was lying there getting sick. That's why I do think think babies is definitely a topic bloggers should avoid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭purplecow1977


    Honestly, I found those snaps quite hard to watch, only because I do think that bloggers shouldn't post things of their babies online. I mean, clearly her baby wasn't well. She seemed more concerned about the pooing on the bed and the getting sick up on the carpet. If that was my baby, I wouldn't be sitting there snapping the whole thing while my baby was lying there getting sick. That's why I do think think babies is definitely a topic bloggers should avoid

    Indicative of modern society - snapping about these things instead of actually spending time with the baby.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭westernlass


    Potatocup wrote: »
    Does anyone notice the way JJ talks to her baby, like full on giving out to the baby for pooing or crying or not sleeping, poor child!! It's constant and always in a harsh tone, I just find it a bit much!!

    Grace need to seriously put the phone down around her baby and give the child some privacy, the poor child looks so confused when grace is talking to her but yet looking at her phone!!

    I only started watching her for a week. I had to stop when I seen her using her baby as a bit in a skit about covering herself up. The baby was in a bath and had her legs open. Clearly the baby couldn't help herself. I like to joke around and have a sense of humour but I thought to myself, that's something very private I should never have seen


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 48 sassychick91


    I only started watching her for a week. I had to stop when I seen her using her baby as a bit in a skit about covering herself up. The baby was in a bath and had her legs open. Clearly the baby couldn't help herself. I like to joke around and have a sense of humour but I thought to myself, that's something very private I should never have seen

    Ya I was shocked by her snaps today she more or less showed the bed sheets it was too much! As with the bath thing, I'm pretty sure Grace has snapped her baby in the bath a few times. She's the worst for it though, everything the child does is on Snapchat, even her getting her first spoon of porridge! Grace actually has an Instagram account for her child which was set up a few weeks after she was born. She ranted on Snapchat then when someone obviously did not agree with setting up an account like that for a child! The baby stuff is ridiculous, at least Pippa keeps it to a minimum with the kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭SpillingTheTea


    Potatocup wrote: »
    Does anyone notice the way JJ talks to her baby, like full on giving out to the baby for pooing or crying or not sleeping, poor child!! It's constant and always in a harsh tone, I just find it a bit much!!

    Grace need to seriously put the phone down around her baby and give the child some privacy, the poor child looks so confused when grace is talking to her but yet looking at her phone!!

    I only started watching her for a week. I had to stop when I seen her using her baby as a bit in a skit about covering herself up. The baby was in a bath and had her legs open. Clearly the baby couldn't help herself. I like to joke around and have a sense of humour but I thought to myself, that's something very private I should never have seen

    Also the snaps she put earlier. I mean she's out getting her hair curled in the hair salon and she's moaning in a jokey way that she has to change her baby's nappy and then holds her up in front of the mirror saying 'are you going to stop that disgracefulness in your underwear'

    Keep your children and their lives off of social media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭westernlass


    I think children are lovely and innocent and not for being subjected to being a joke just yet. I find it sad really. I know Grace shows a lot but she never critiques her baby. She does it because she's obsessed with her. I don't like the exposure but I don't fault her for how she does it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭SpillingTheTea


    I think children are lovely and innocent and not for being subjected to being a joke just yet. I find it sad really. I know Grace shows a lot but she never critiques her baby. She does it because she's obsessed with her. I don't like the exposure but I don't fault her for how she does it

    I completely agree, you can really see how much she loves her baby (not saying others don't!) maybe I'm old fashioned, but I really think there are things that should be kept away from social media. I mean it's Snapchat, the snaps are gone after 24hours but that's not an excuse for doing it.
    They are giving a platform for people to critique. I know the irony of me saying that as I critique the situation, but it happens.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭idunno78


    I followed grace to see some snaps being discussed in the other thread. Unfollowed after just as quick! One of the snaps was the baby in the bath and showed a bit to much of her private bits. Anyone could be watching that and screenshot it and do god knows what. I thought it was terrible. In one she had it covered with a smily face but not properally in second. Was terrible, to much.

    They also shouldn't reccommeend products they haven't used for a suffient period of time regardless of if they are being paid or not! Most of the have kids from 11 up following and it could be really damaging to them with some things they show!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 697 ✭✭✭Cria


    I was horrified that grace said go have a baby it's easy her followers are mainly teenagers how could she say that it's a silly thing to say.
    Topics I feel should be avoided is constant snaps of your baby putting your child up on these platforms is very irresponsible imo anybody can view them.
    Don't use your child as a tool to reach more viewers or to get free stuff.
    If your child is sick put the phone down. IMO these bloggers should spend more time bonding with their children than constantly snapping them it's so uncomfortable. Snapping your baby's christening cake at their christening and letting someone snap at your christening is so wrong imo.
    Also avoid promoting weight loss products or vitamins ect especially if your not even using the product.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭MuffinTop86


    Speaking of babies, I thought Just jordan giving out to her baby while snapchatting was teally uncomfortable viewing, just because she was too self involved to notice the child had no nappy on.
    And the main part of the crisis were the fact that the sheets were laura bloody ashley.
    I hope that baby doesn't grow up with esteem issues because the mother is the most bizarre airhead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭westernlass


    Speaking of babies, I thought Just jordan giving out to her baby while snapchatting was teally uncomfortable viewing, just because she was too self involved to notice the child had no nappy on.
    And the main part of the crisis were the fact that the sheets were laura bloody ashley.
    I hope that baby doesn't grow up with esteem issues because the mother is the most bizarre airhead.
    For some reason, hearing that makes me very sad


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    It's natural for kids to be naked. They love it, they run around, there is nothing wrong with seeing baby naked and there is nothing wrong by babies being naked. In fact there is a lot more wrong with seeing two year olds wearing bikini on beaches than them being naked.

    I don't like kids pictures being shared with everyone but there wont be a paedophile magically jumping from the bushes every time someone else but kid's parents see them naked.

    Also how many child rearing experts in this thread actually know any babies?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Lindy97


    meeeeh wrote: »
    It's natural for kids to be naked. They love it, they run around, there is nothing wrong with seeing baby naked and there is nothing wrong by babies being naked. In fact there is a lot more wrong with seeing two year olds wearing bikini on beaches than them being naked.

    I don't like kids pictures being shared with everyone but there wont be a paedophile magically jumping from the bushes every time someone else but kid's parents see them naked.

    Also how many child rearing experts in this thread actually know any babies.

    Of course its natural but its a bit different being naked in your garden/house/swimming pool than being naked online to thousands of followers. Grace has over 60 thousand, one screenshot and theres a naked picture of your child floating around to who knows where online. There have been programs made about adults photos ending up on porn sites after they were hacked etc.. so its not a stretch to think pics of their kids could end up anywhere. Do you really not see the difference?

    However having said that i dont agree with commenting on bloggers parenting skills. We may not agree but implying theyre not good parents or something is wrong isnt ok.


    (Mum to a 7 month old girl btw)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭SpillingTheTea


    meeeeh wrote: »
    It's natural for kids to be naked. They love it, they run around, there is nothing wrong with seeing baby naked and there is nothing wrong by babies being naked. In fact there is a lot more wrong with seeing two year olds wearing bikini on beaches than them being naked.

    I don't like kids pictures being shared with everyone but there wont be a paedophile magically jumping from the bushes every time someone else but kid's parents see them naked.

    Also how many child rearing experts in this thread actually know any babies.

    Yes, it's natural for babies to be naked but it isn't natural to put it all out on the internet for strangers to see.

    Unfortunately I do think your statement about there wont be a pedophile jumping out of the bushes to be a bit misplaced. Stuff like that is prevalent on the dark web and if you fail to acknowledge that, then you are ill informed tbh.

    I agree that parenting skills shouldn't be critiqued here, only netiquette.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭westernlass


    meeeeh wrote: »
    It's natural for kids to be naked. They love it, they run around, there is nothing wrong with seeing baby naked and there is nothing wrong by babies being naked. In fact there is a lot more wrong with seeing two year olds wearing bikini on beaches than them being naked.

    I don't like kids pictures being shared with everyone but there wont be a paedophile magically jumping from the bushes every time someone else but kid's parents see them naked.

    Also how many child rearing experts in this thread actually know any babies?
    I don't think people are claiming to be child rearing experts.  This discussion is from a viewers point of view.  One of up to 60K at times.  Awareness around this fact is what most people are discussing.
    I'm talking about a specific example, not overall parenting at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Lindy97 wrote: »
    Of course its natural but its a bit different being naked in your garden/house/swimming pool than being naked online to thousands of followers. Grace has over 60 thousand, one screenshot and theres a naked picture of your child floating around to who knows where online. There have been programs made about adults photos ending up on porn sites after they were hacked etc.. so its not a stretch to think pics of their kids could end up anywhere. Do you really not see the difference?

    I think child having a bath or other every day things can only be sexualized by people trying hard to see them in that way.

    Anyway I am not going to derail thread any more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Lindy97


    meeeeh wrote: »
    I think child having a bath or other every day things can only be sexualized by people trying hard to see them in that way.


    Well...yes to you or I its a child having a bath, but its those other people who think differently and having easy access to pictures of other peoples kids online that we're talking about. As a parent you have to think like that, sad fact of society today but true.
    A few of the bloggers themselves have asked people not to screenshot their kids (JJ and Pippa) so they are aware


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭SpillingTheTea


    meeeeh wrote: »
    I think child having a bath or other every day things can only be sexualized by people trying hard to see them in that way.

    Anyway I am not going to derail thread any more.


    I won't derail further either but I think that is still very naive thinking. Regardless of whether it's being sexualised or not, it still is too much to put on the internet.
    I know personally I think that my aversion to having your babies life on blast on social media just a) isn't fair on the baby as they have no control over whats being on the internet for when they grow up and b) I think some things should be kept personal.

    Anyway, not derailing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭blairbear


    I think you would have to be INSANE to put your beautiful, innocent baby on SC, with 60K followers, while they're in the bath. Or getting sick. Or soiling bed linen. It beggars belief. You have a responsibility as a parent to protect your child. Filming your child for SC when you have a huge following leaves them exposed, vulnerable and takes away their dignity. Sending a snap to granny or your friends is different. The Internet is an unknown quantity. Children should be protected from it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭purplecow1977


    It's also natural for women to be naked, but if I started putting pictures of me having a bath up on Snapchat.........you can be sure there'd be something said about it!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 856 ✭✭✭idunno78


    I hope you don't think I was sexualising the photo? I meant that if it got into the wrong hands it could be used Inappropriately. It's very easy happen unfortunately in this day and age. I know if I was in the public eye like some of these girls I'd becareful of what I posted of my child. That's just my opinion and your entitled to yours.

    For the record I'm not saying anything about any bodies parenting because you don't see 24 hours of the day! So no one could possibly comment on something like that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭blairbear


    idunno78 wrote: »
    I hope you don't think I was sexualising the photo? I meant that if it got into the wrong hands it could be used Inappropriately. It's very easy happen unfortunately in this day and age. I know if I was in the public eye like some of these girls I'd becareful of what I posted of my child. That's just my opinion and your entitled to yours.

    For the record I'm not saying anything about any bodies parenting because you don't see 24 hours of the day! So no one could possibly comment on something like that!

    Meeeeh is arguing that being aware of paedophiles or recognising the potential for a child to be viewed in a sexual way by disgusting criminals means that you are guilty of the same. JESUS WEPT.

    Of course you weren't sexualising anything and to suggest this is highly inflammatory. Which I suspect was the aim of the post.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Lindy97


    But anyway... my main gripe is with bloggers shilling detox or weightloss stuff/diet plans. Or even gym membership when they cant be arsed to go regularly themselves


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 crumble_15


    Totally agree about jj's snaps today!! There's something about her tone that makes me feel uncomfortable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 crumble_15


    Totally agree about jj's snaps today!! There's something about her tone that makes me feel uncomfortable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭Ray37


    I nearly vomited when she showed the shot of the ****e covered sheets! Feck sake, who wants to see literal **** on snapchat?? That is just utterly vile, disgusting! And to think I was eating my lunch while I watched (I live in Canada, different time zones!). Honestly, that is so low to show that. Way too much information, I'd be horrified if my own sister or friend sent me that, wtf like.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭westernlass


    Lindy97 wrote: »
    But anyway... my main gripe is with bloggers shilling detox or weightloss stuff/diet plans. Or even gym membership when they cant be arsed to go regularly themselves
    You've just made me think of the 'healthy' bloggers who plug Dominos pizza a lot :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭frogstar


    It's also natural for women to be naked, but if I started putting pictures of me having a bath up on Snapchat.........you can be sure there'd be something said about it!!!!!

    Some bloggers do this, snapping while in the bath. Completely oversharing.

    Rather than a specific topic to avoid, it's the oversharing I think should be avoided. Eg. Family who don't want to be on SC, in the bath, in depth detail of their menstrual cycle, random fluff thoughts, constant body pics/videos in front of mirror.

    Before someone posts in SC or social media they should really stop and think if the content is useful and appropriate to post


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 370 ✭✭heyjude88


    The waxperts owner shared a picture of herself in the bath with her 3 year old son a few weeks back.

    I was shocked.

    Also agree with the detox stuff. Sing spoken about! Not right!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 Potatocup


    I have to say I have a lot of respect for Sharon Leavy and Sinead from the beautiful truth for never ever showing there kids.
    It's the bloggers choice to put themselves out there but for the love of god leave the kids out of it, the constant baby spam is ridiculous, no one wants to see it!! As for poor little sienna with her own instagram!!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Puggly


    I have two kids and I really don't get the whole over sharing of kids. One or two pics is fine but the amount that they're sharing is ridiculous. I taught jj wasn't going to share her baby on social media anyways. She really got to me today I felt that she was more worried about the poop on the bed than her sick baby. Jesus buy new bedsheets it's not the end of the world. Baby's are sick for a few days after injections maybe plan your hair appointment for when she's better. Sorry about the rant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57 ✭✭Puggly


    These bloggers need to stop promoting the teatox they don't work. The only way to lose weight is healthy eating and exercise. To beat the bloat drink peppermint tea.


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