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How did you score in your last round... 2017 ?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,784 ✭✭✭gypsy79


    Thats where i'm currently at - The first card i played the players i was playing with marked anything over double bogey as double bogey so gross 91 was in reality probably 99 as well, they said didn't matter as everything knocked down to double bogey. That wasn't the case in either of the other rounds where I recorded every score.

    This is correct method so you werent hurt anyway. I n fact you should probably get 1 or 2 under your best score

    I cant find where the calc is done again

    It perfectly matched mine


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,422 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    My scores this year range from 70 to 90 with the average probably around 80. Average certainty wouldn't be a fair representation for me and I don't think applying the average will work for a new member either as they will always improve and even gain shots from just learning the course.

    Can't agree with the above at all.

    You're killing a person off straight away putting them on a lower handicap.

    Competition-wise you're already blocked from minor scratch cups, not a hope in club matchplays/christmas hampers etc.

    You're justifying say three cards of +18 to be given a resulting handicap of +14?

    It's not right. Who's to say the three rounds weren't the best rounds the person has ever played? On the flipside, who's to say they weren't the worst rounds the person has ever played.

    From that, it should be the average.


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    callaway92 wrote: »
    Can't agree with the above at all.

    You're killing a person off straight away putting them on a lower handicap.

    Competition-wise you're already blocked from minor scratch cups, not a hope in club matchplays/christmas hampers etc.

    You're justifying say three cards of +18 to be given a resulting handicap of +14?

    It's not right. Who's to say the three rounds weren't the best rounds the person has ever played? On the flipside, who's to say they weren't the worst rounds the person has ever played.

    From that, it should be the average.

    but a handicap isn't based on average scoring it is a mark of you best potential score. In instance above of 3 cards of +18, on a good day you could go out and turn bogeys into par and double in bogeys and easily be shooting around the +16 mark and on a very good day shoot +14/+13.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,422 ✭✭✭✭callaway92


    ronnoco13 wrote: »
    but a handicap isn't based on average scoring it is a mark of you best potential score. In instance above of 3 cards of +18, on a good day you could go out and turn bogeys into par and double in bogeys and easily be shooting around the +16 mark and on a very good day shoot +14/+13.

    I get you, but who's to say the three cards weren't the best rounds of the person's life?

    Obviously they could have been awful rounds too.

    Three rounds is such a small sample size that I believe it's definitely a flawed system. That's why for three rounds, an average makes sense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 417 ✭✭martinkop


    ronnoco13 wrote: »
    but a handicap isn't based on average scoring it is a mark of you best potential score.

    Exactly, its seems a lot of people think you should shoot your handicap every week. That's not the case, you should shoot your handicap in 1 out of every 7 rounds, that's the ideology the handicap system was built on.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭mighty magpie


    callaway92 wrote: »
    Can't agree with the above at all.

    You're killing a person off straight away putting them on a lower handicap.

    Competition-wise you're already blocked from minor scratch cups, not a hope in club matchplays/christmas hampers etc.

    You're justifying say three cards of +18 to be given a resulting handicap of +14?

    It's not right. Who's to say the three rounds weren't the best rounds the person has ever played? On the flipside, who's to say they weren't the worst rounds the person has ever played.

    From that, it should be the average.

    No I'm not justifying your handicap of 14. I think 14 is a bit harsh and 16 could maybe be a better starting point but it should never be an average. My rounds this year show that average is wrong, average off 10 but i've won off 5.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Yes exactly, your handicap is not the average of your x number of rounds. Not for cat 3 or 2 golfers in any case. Your handicap is lower than that. As you get lower and your scores don't tend to get up and down as much it gets closer to the average. This reflected in the categories and how they apply to reductions and buffer zones. You could say that for cat 1 golfers the handicap is as close to the average of their rounds as it gets, but even for them its not quite.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,637 ✭✭✭kev_s88


    Been getting steadily better over the last few rounds ive been out, seems the regular golfing is finally starting to have an impact and im finding a groove.

    Shot 32 and 36 the last two comps played after too many rounds in the 20s. 36 last week came from just really steady par and bogey golf with 3 scratches. Nothing spectacular but nothing really awful either. Only joined a club for the first time 3 months ago and im finally starting to see the light in playing consistent average golf :)

    Pro's prize this weekend so lets hope i can continue the rise, and then Winter League starting from next week which should be an interesting one


  • Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭davegilly


    So today was my first outing with my brand new shiny week old handicap of 18. Shot 17 pts with 0 birdies, 0 pars and lots and lots of bogeys, doubles, trebles etc. :)

    A lot of work ahead.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Mitigating factor - it looked like a rough day out there, still does.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 157 ✭✭X1R


    Well last week was the cherry on top. Saturday I win the semi final of our club cup competition. Match play we went to the 18th. It was a good battle all the way round. Sunday was the last round of golfer of the year. I was in third by 6 points. Played out of my skin and came in with 45 points !!!!! Won the overall comp by 2 points. I'm only playing a few years and loving the challenge........roll on 2018


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,578 ✭✭✭Benicetomonty


    38 points off 1, 70 gross around Lucan GC today.

    Came 2nd overall but more excited to lose 0.4 due to quite a high CSS. I suppose it was fairly soft underfoot; we had placing on fairways but nothing in the rough and there were a few mudballs to be seen. Anyway, net result was Im down to my lowest ever, 0.8, and only 0.5 away from the holy grail of scratch

    Have been scoring well the last few weeks so was hoping to keep it going today. Started like a dream; easy par at 1, stitched an 8 iron on 2 for a kick in birdie and also birdied 3 and 5. Unfortunately a poor second at 8 and a careless 3 putt at 9 meant I turned -1 instead of something better.

    I then bogeyed 11 and hit an awful drive off 12. Got lucky there though, and made a par before 3 perfect shots on 13 got me back under par. Poor tee shots off 14 and 15 again got very lucky, enough to secure two pars. I then hit a makeshift 6 iron into 16 and nailed the putt from 12 feet to get back to -2. I played 17 well but missed from maybe 5 or 6 ft for a birdie 4.

    Then on the par 5 18th, I hit a pathetic drive, left and nosediving into a bad spot in the trees. I tried to squeeze a 3 wood up the fairway but the ball cracked straight into a tree. It couldve gone anywhere really, but bounced right, back onto the fairway albeit miles back. That left me with a difficult lay up shot, a full 5 wood into a narrow enough landing area. Only last week, I doubled the hole to lose the gross on the back 9 so was a tangible sense of deja vu at this stage.

    Was happy to put a really good swing on it however and ended up in a decent spot from where to hit my 4th. Got that one on to about 30 feet but hit a poor approach putt that left me a good 5 feet for a bogey 6. Hit a good putt luckily and in she went.

    Didnt leave much out there but there was a few shots that couldve been better so optimistic that losing another half a shot may actually be a possibility!


  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭mighty magpie


    X1R wrote: »
    Well last week was the cherry on top. Saturday I win the semi final of our club cup competition. Match play we went to the 18th. It was a good battle all the way round. Sunday was the last round of golfer of the year. I was in third by 6 points. Played out of my skin and came in with 45 points !!!!! Won the overall comp by 2 points. I'm only playing a few years and loving the challenge........roll on 2018

    Well done, how much has your handicap reduced since you started? 45 points should get you a nice cut!


  • Registered Users Posts: 346 ✭✭frink


    Final qualifying round of the year on Saturday, Strokes off the whites. While I thought I played well, I made a few bad mistakes and coupled with no holing a single putt outside 6 feet I finished with an 83 gross for 76 net. Thought I would be in the buffer at +4 but missed it by 1 so another 0.1 back.

    Overall a positive year in terms of handicap progression and a few wins and a matchplay trophy. Got from 7.8 to 6.6 but still felt I let some good scores disappear by poor decision making and lack of concentration. Something to work on over winter! On the panels for the teams next year so will take advantage of the free coaching that comes with it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    I think if the title of this thread was 'how did I play' instead of 'how did I score' then I'd be writing a different post about the weekend.

    It was a bit weird. At the end of both rounds (Sat and Sun) I checked my stats for the weekend - of 30 fairways aimed for I hit 26, my driving distance is about 5% to 7% longer than last year, my putting is acceptable but where I seem to have problems is pinging the greens (barely 33% GIR) and not scoring on 'banker' holes......for example I took (over 2 rounds) 6 points from the index #1 at the weekend, but only 3 from the index #18 and 3 from the index #17!!

    So played well......scored terribly - 32 pts on Saturday and 30 on Sunday......

    .......and 6 pts off 6 holes yesterday as Ophelia rolled in :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭mighty magpie


    Played Saturday morning in a 3 ball with 14 and 22 handicappers.

    Just 10 holes as we wanted to be home for Liverpool/United. 14 handicap was +1 through 10. 22 Handicap played the golf of his life, hit 4 birdies in 10 holes to finish for 29 points. Our place uses 13 holes for the stableford at the moment so I would safely say my playing partners would have been 1 and 2 in the comp if we would have entered.

    Sunday morning I was +8 for 33 points. 2 bad doubles where both times i was greenside in two, chipped and then 3 putted. Probably missed 6 putts from inside 10 feet on spiked greens. Not sure whether to blame the greens or the 10 pints i had on saturday.

    Struggling to get motivated as we will be preferred lies until March and greens aren't in great shape at the minute.

    Portstewart Strand course in 2 weeks and planning a trip to Rosapena. Can't wait


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,871 ✭✭✭Macker1


    Played Saturday morning in a 3 ball with 14 and 22 handicappers.

    Just 10 holes as we wanted to be home for Liverpool/United. 14 handicap was +1 through 10. 22 Handicap played the golf of his life, hit 4 birdies in 10 holes to finish for 29 points. Our place uses 13 holes for the stableford at the moment so I would safely say my playing partners would have been 1 and 2 in the comp if we would have entered.

    Sunday morning I was +8 for 33 points. 2 bad doubles where both times i was greenside in two, chipped and then 3 putted. Probably missed 6 putts from inside 10 feet on spiked greens. Not sure whether to blame the greens or the 10 pints i had on saturday.

    Struggling to get motivated as we will be preferred lies until March and greens aren't in great shape at the minute.

    Portstewart Strand course in 2 weeks and planning a trip to Rosapena. Can't wait

    22 hcap is obviously not right if the player has 4 birdies in 10 holes. :eek::eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 981 ✭✭✭mighty magpie


    No it is fairly accurate, I've played with him loads this year as we are both new members and he has only beat me once or twice even though he had anywhere between 12-17 shots on me. Didn't take him long to get his 10 x 0.1s but did show some potential winning a front 9 on captains day.

    Short game/course management lets him down so much but his ball striking is that off a 12/13 h/c. 4 irons inside 10 feet (sank 3 of them) on saturday and drove our driveable par 4 for a 2 putt birdie. All 3 of us in disbelief.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,190 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    34 points last Sunday in our free sub competition, missed out by 5 points. Left a lot out there unfortunately, my game is / was in a good place at the moment. Only drove ok which left me some tough approaches but in general, all of my play was good.

    Got hit in the eye with a bramble bush before I left home, and while it was sore, it didn't bother me too much. Not long after the round finished the real pain started. Ended up in MiDoc Sunday night - torn cornea and managed to catch the spot where they done the incision for my laser corrective surgery. Had to see a specialist in the Hermitage Tuesday and thankfully he thinks I have no long term damage done but I only have partial sight in it now. :(
    Not fun let me tell you!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    34 points last Sunday in our free sub competition, missed out by 5 points. Left a lot out there unfortunately, my game is / was in a good place at the moment. Only drove ok which left me some tough approaches but in general, all of my play was good.

    Got hit in the eye with a bramble bush before I left home, and while it was sore, it didn't bother me too much. Not long after the round finished the real pain started. Ended up in MiDoc Sunday night - torn cornea and managed to catch the spot where they done the incision for my laser corrective surgery. Had to see a specialist in the Hermitage Tuesday and thankfully he thinks I have no long term damage done but I only have partial sight in it now. :(
    Not fun let me tell you!

    Ouch! Sorry to hear that. Hope you make a full recovery.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Jaysus that was rough this morning.

    Played the front nine in the wind and cold - refreshing links weather!! Then literally as we walked off #9 the rain started and by the time we walked off #12 were soaked playing into the driving rain :pac:

    Finished with 32 points......17 on the front 9 and, obviously, 15 on the return. Quite happy with how I played and managed the conditions. Scored on every hole, bar one, and even into the wind and rain managed to bash out a couple of pars, although it was a driver and 3-wood to reach the green, or sometimes just to get within a short iron's reach!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,718 ✭✭✭Barnaboy


    39 points off 14
    2 birdies
    5 pars
    10 bogies
    1 triple

    Well, after a good whinge here last week I ended a dreadful run with the best round of 2017!

    Admittedly it was winter rules but even still it was a great round.

    Could have been better as well only for scratching last hole. Only one of the day. My playing partner decided to remind me to make sure of a bogey at worst while I was addressing the ball on the tee box. Really should have stepped away but hit, blocked right and OOB. Still peeved at him...


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,675 ✭✭✭ronnie3585


    Had my first round back today after six weeks without swinging a club. It was very hard work. 5 pars, 1 birdie and 6 scratches! Finished with the princely sum of 28 points, off 18. Nightmare:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,461 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Had a weird round yesterday. Started off quite ok, swinging it alright enough, but deteriorated quickly from about the turn onwards and struggling to get on the board at all (3 man team thing, 2 scores to count). Then in the middle of the back 9 I thought wtf you're probably not concentrating and not turning at all. Thats usually how my swing goes bad. Concentration goes and then I start just flapping my arms sideways with hardly any shoulder turn. So I tried really hard to put just a nice swing on the next ball - short par 3. Made lovely crisp contact from a short firm swing with what felt no 'waste' at all in it. If only I could swing like this all the time. Anyway, hit a beauty just left of the pin - and aced it! Was in the 2's club, too. Which sort of kick started a really strong finish from us that may well have won us the overall comp.

    Stupid game really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,297 ✭✭✭✭Jawgap


    Started well and finished strongly.....and if I'd put a few scores together at the turn I'd have been laughing, as it was I was left feeling distinctly underwhelmed.

    Started with a brace of pars - which was all the more satisfying for the lost ball I almost had on #1.....we were just about to call it quits when one of my playing partners found it, so I went from potential lost ball to 3 pts :D

    Followed that with a solid par, then played steady away with bogeys all the way to #9 and 20 points......the first time I've played the front 9 without carding a double-bogey and my longest stretch of double-bogey free holes.

    Hit a solid drive off #10, then a lovely 3 wood straight into the wind. Walked up expecting the ball to be in front of or just left of the green only to find it had gone AWOL :confused: Anyway, hate when that happens but what can you do, other than search and hope which we did, without success.

    Bogeyed the next 2, which was fine considering the savage cross-wind we were playing in, then cocked up a chip at the next one......was up level with the green in 2 and i think a bit of complacency kicked in and I tried to be creative.....a costly error. Rallied on 14 but then a wayward drive, compounded by the wind led to 15 being scratched.....rallied again on #16 then finished with a pair of pars, the most satisfying aspect of which is that both were excellent birdie opportunities that I just couldn't convert.

    Managed to finish with 34 pts, so saved the 0.1 :)


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,190 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    Barnaboy wrote: »
    Ouch! Sorry to hear that. Hope you make a full recovery.

    8 days on and still only have blurred vision in it. Its a bit better than last week but still not great. Back to specialist Wednesday. :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭seamie78


    charlieIRL wrote:
    8 days on and still only have blurred vision in it. Its a bit better than last week but still not great. Back to specialist Wednesday.


    Hope it's good news and you make a full recovery


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭spacecoyote


    Jawgap wrote: »
    Started well and finished strongly.....and if I'd put a few scores together at the turn I'd have been laughing, as it was I was left feeling distinctly underwhelmed.

    Started with a brace of pars - which was all the more satisfying for the lost ball I almost had on #1.....we were just about to call it quits when one of my playing partners found it, so I went from potential lost ball to 3 pts :D

    Followed that with a solid par, then played steady away with bogeys all the way to #9 and 20 points......the first time I've played the front 9 without carding a double-bogey and my longest stretch of double-bogey free holes.

    Hit a solid drive off #10, then a lovely 3 wood straight into the wind. Walked up expecting the ball to be in front of or just left of the green only to find it had gone AWOL :confused: Anyway, hate when that happens but what can you do, other than search and hope which we did, without success.

    Bogeyed the next 2, which was fine considering the savage cross-wind we were playing in, then cocked up a chip at the next one......was up level with the green in 2 and i think a bit of complacency kicked in and I tried to be creative.....a costly error. Rallied on 14 but then a wayward drive, compounded by the wind led to 15 being scratched.....rallied again on #16 then finished with a pair of pars, the most satisfying aspect of which is that both were excellent birdie opportunities that I just couldn't convert.

    Managed to finish with 34 pts, so saved the 0.1 :)

    Where are you playing that you're still getting qualifying golf?...especially after the weather last weekend!!!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,798 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    charlieIRL wrote: »
    8 days on and still only have blurred vision in it. Its a bit better than last week but still not great. Back to specialist Wednesday. :(

    Hope full recovery too, have you checked with golf insurance re coverage?

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,190 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    slave1 wrote: »
    Hope full recovery too, have you checked with golf insurance re coverage?

    Cheers.

    It happened at home before i went out playing. Played the full 18 holes with what felt like a bit of grit in my eye, unfortunately there more i blinked and the longer i was out, the more damage i was doing. :(


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