Waverly development

sinkadinka

Anyone have an info on this particularly in relation to who the builder is and also size of the development ?

Blingy

sinkadinka wrote: »

Anyone have an info on this particularly in relation to who the builder is and also size of the development ?

Sorry no but I am also interested. It appears to be going beside the educate together school and beside the seagreen development.

Zoo4m8

I'm sure Sherry Fitzgerald would be happy to help..

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sinkadinka

Thanks for all the replies ! Have they actually started building these ?

2011

Travel times are a tad optimistic unless travelling by helicopter

Zoo4m8

sinkadinka wrote: »

Thanks for all the replies ! Have they actually started building these ?

Yep..

Joeb124

sinkadinka wrote: »

Thanks for all the replies ! Have they actually started building these ?

They are pricing them based on Seagreen, so will be ball park the same. I think these are being developed by NAMA, developer building them but NAMA in control from what I have heard.

gb1985

Hi All, does anyone has any up to date information on this development? for those residing in neighbourhood, has the construction picked up? Thanks

Blingy

gb1985 wrote: »

Hi All, does anyone has any up to date information on this development? for those residing in neighbourhood, has the construction picked up? Thanks

Passed by there today and yes building has started. You could see the shell of a few houses near the road.
Haven't heard much about this development unlike the one next door seagreen.
Who's the builder?

gb1985

Blingy wrote: »

Passed by there today and yes building has started. You could see the shell of a few houses near the road.
Haven't heard much about this development unlike the one next door seagreen.
Who's the builder?

Newlyn Constructions, however, it is NAMA sponsored development.

Is this timber frame construction? or are they using concrete?

coastwatch

A lot of development going on, and planned for Greystones. Is there any plan to improve/widen the R761 (to Southern Cross/ Bray)?
That road seems to get very congested, even on a weekend.

GenevaW

coastwatch wrote: »

A lot of development going on, and planned for Greystones. Is there any plan to improve/widen the R761 (to Southern Cross/ Bray)?
That road seems to get very congested, even on a weekend.

Do you know where else in Greystones construction is being planned?

Blingy

Lots of new developments-seagreen will have 180 houses, 129 in waverly, another big estate planned for the site behind Bellevue heights/delgany glen, new houses down near charlesland too. And I haven't heard of any plans for new roads !

Interesting to hear Nama are funding Waverly. Do Nama fund many developments?

gb1985

Blingy wrote: »

Interesting to hear Nama are funding Waverly. Do Nama fund many developments?

I could be wrong, but I don't think a builder can approach NAMA to fund any development. I assume previous developer who bought this land went into liquidation and property ended up with NAMA. Now that housing is short in supply, NAMA is trying to capitalise its holdings.

NAMA recently funded development of two additional apartment blocks within The Grange in Stillorgan. Those have been rented out.

loyatemu

In addition to Waverly and SeaGreen, there are 50 house approved for a site between Charlesland and and the Kilcoole Road, and there's a planning app in for ~170 houses immediately to the south of Charlesland Park. The site behind St Lawrence's school has an application for 132 houses going through the planning process. The harbour development (Marina Village) will eventually contain 400+ houses and apartments.

The development plan mentions a new access road going from Redford to the N11 at the Glenview hotel junction, but it's probably years away.

FirstIn

loyatemu wrote: »

In addition to Waverly and SeaGreen, there are 50 house approved for a site between Charlesland and and the Kilcoole Road, and there's a planning app in for ~170 houses immediately to the south of Charlesland Park. The site behind St Lawrence's school has an application for 132 houses going through the planning process. The harbour development (Marina Village) will eventually contain 400+ houses and apartments.


The development plan mentions a new access road going from Redford to the N11 at the Glenview hotel junction, but it's probably years away.

The town will be choked. It's bad enough as it is.

Surely there should be prerequisites like proper access roads. Greystones will be a victim of its own success. Such a shame.

ActingDanClark

gb1985 wrote: »

Newlyn Constructions, however, it is NAMA sponsored development.

Is this timber frame construction? or are they using concrete?

Newlyn isn't woods is it?

gb1985

damian139 wrote: »

Newlyn isn't woods is it?

nope, wood group are developing SeaGreen, which is next door to waverly

Wicklow Will

Posters here asking why there isn't proper infrastructure to support the massive spread of development in and around Greystones and Delgany, are absolutely right - on the one hand. Yes it is crazy that Wicklow County Council planners aren't stipulating that the supporting infrastructure is in place prior to development taking place. However, the planners operate under legislation developed under Local Development Plans, which have to conform to County Development Plans and these in turn must be in line with guidelines laid down by the National Spatial Strategy (NSS) that is in force from time-to-time. There is currently a new edition of this being compiled. Planning is also influenced by our Regional Assemblies which, to we ordinary folk, are something of an unknown quantity. The other intractable problem that we face in the Greystones and Delgany area, in trying to contain inappropriate development is Greystones' and Delgany's inclusion in The Greater Dublin Metropolitan Area. This is a classification under the NSS and also influences planning in this area.

So, in all of this, we soon come to realise that attempting to bring some reason to bear on planning in and around Delgany /Greystones is akin to gathering sand in a net or water in a sive.

From a more aesthetic and quality of life perspective, we have to ask ourselves what does this mean for our area as a whole? As one poster stated, Greystones (and also Delgany) have become victims of their natural geographical beauty and quality of life reputation. These attributes were due, originally, to unspoilt areas of natural beauty and smaller communities where people existed side-by-side at such a level where people knew each other, interacted and actually integrated into a community. However, both these desirable elements have now, sadly been lost. I challenge anyone, living in Greystones or Delgany, reading this post to honestly, hand on heart, admit do you actually know anyone on your street or road further than your next door neighbour, or at most two and at a push three houses away? How many times have you actually sat down for a cup of tea in each other's houses, let alone a meal with each other? These phenomena are not peculiar to either conurbation but they are indicative of a facet of modern life and symptomatic of the underlying problem besetting our area.

Delgany and Greystones even up to thirty years ago when, as a bloke in my twenties I first visited them, were effectively villages. Now, Greystones is the fastest growing centre of population in Co. Wicklow and classified as a Large Town in the LADP. Delgany has all but been subsumed by its one-time offspring and now larger neighbour to become a suburb of it, despite valiantly striving to retain its own identity. How has this occurred?

Naturally as populations grow, development will proliferate to meet such increase. However, if such development is unfettered, it impacts detrimentally on the very aspects of life in areas of which Delgany and Greystones were prime examples. The extensive concentration of development from north Dublin down along the east coast, virtually to north Wexford must bring into focus the issue of so much of our economic investment being Dublin-centric. If more investment were devolved to other areas of the country in conjunction with the required infrastructure to support this there wouldn't be the requirement for so many people to look to Dublin for career prospects and the east coast for living accommodation. Until such time that this begins to happen, you will have the continued, unrestrained erosion of the countryside in what is now the 'Greater Dublin Metropolitan Area' and along with it, the quality of life that once made Greystones and Delgany the desirable places to live, they once were - free of unremitting lines of traffic and growing commuting times as the old roads get more and more congested.

What price progress?

kh2017

does this mean nama will request large volumes of social housing in wayverly

loyatemu

kh2017 wrote: »

does this mean nama will request large volumes of social housing in wayverly

what have NAMA got to do with it?

Also I note a large sign for Cairn Homes in the field on the left just past the Redford Park junction; Cairn are the developers of the 2 sites in Charlesland but I can't see any planning application for that particular field. Anyone know anything?

gb1985

kh2017 wrote: »

does this mean nama will request large volumes of social housing in wayverly

I hope not!!!
The houses are being built and sold by Newlyn and not NAMA. NAMA owned the land and has funded development, but its like any other commercial transaction.
NAMA is part of NTMA and has nothing to do with social housing.

adam14

loyatemu wrote:

Also I note a large sign for Cairn Homes in the field on the left just past the Redford Park junction; Cairn are the developers of the 2 sites in Charlesland but I can't see any planning application for that particular field. Anyone know anything?

loyatemu wrote:

Also I note a large sign for Cairn Homes in the field on the left just past the Redford Park junction; Cairn are the developers of the 2 sites in Charlesland but I can't see any planning application for that particular field. Anyone know anything?

That's all zoned for housing up to the junction at the dip in the road going to wind gates

RaulDublin

I called up the ea today and they vaguely mentioned 600 k range for the 4 beds.
I saw the plans on the builder webpage and they look neat...on paper

Blingy

RaulDublin wrote: »

I called up the ea today and they vaguely mentioned 600 k range for the 4 beds.
I saw the plans on the builder webpage and they look neat...on paper

Wow. 600k for a 4 bed seems a lot. Is that the detached maybe? Do you have the webpage for the builder? Seems to be very little info about these for a long time anyone know when the launch is?

gb1985

Blingy wrote: »

Wow. 600k for a 4 bed seems a lot. Is that the detached maybe? Do you have the webpage for the builder? Seems to be very little info about these for a long time anyone know when the launch is?

Agree, 600K seems to be a lot, even for detached.

FB page says launch in May so any weekend now I guess...

RaulDublin

Blingy wrote: »

Wow. 600k for a 4 bed seems a lot. Is that the detached maybe? Do you have the webpage for the builder? Seems to be very little info about these for a long time anyone know when the launch is?

Is this not the webpage Waverly.ie .. there are 3/4/5 bed specs here.
600 k seemed high to me as well but they did say 500-600 k range and that the builder s release prices a few days before launch .

gb1985

Waverly Brochure

http://online.anyflip.com/gjcd/xuzt/mobile/index.html

loyatemu

gb1985 wrote: »

Waverly Brochure

http://online.anyflip.com/gjcd/xuzt/mobile/index.html

129 houses on the siteplan - is that the full development or is there a second phase afterwards?

gb1985

loyatemu wrote: »

129 houses on the siteplan - is that the full development or is there a second phase afterwards?

As per EA, full development will include 129 houses. Did not ask how many houses will be released in phase 1.

ActingDanClark

Just got an email from SF, viewing tomorrow from 10-12,
3 bed semi e415k ,4 bed semi e455 k ( from)

SuiteCheex

damian139 wrote: »

Just got an email from SF, viewing tomorrow from 10-12,
3 bed semi e415k ,4 bed semi e455 k ( from)

The lack of a reaction to this post has me thinking/worried that everyone is currently scrambling to join the queue outside Waverly. The same queue, I might add, that started forming earlier today before SherryFitz even got a chance to circulate the email about tomorrow's launch! :eek:

SuiteCheex

gb1985 wrote: »

As per EA, full development will include 129 houses. Did not ask how many houses will be released in phase 1.

Per SherryFitz's email this afternoon, only 20 houses included in phase 1 launching at 10am tomorrow:

12 x 3-bed Osprey from €415k (118 sq.m)
8 x 4-bed Petrel from €455k (133 sq.m)

Best of luck to anyone who's on the hunt for one of them.

Eoinconway

SuiteCheex wrote: »

damian139 wrote: »

Just got an email from SF, viewing tomorrow from 10-12,
3 bed semi e415k ,4 bed semi e455 k ( from)

The lack of a reaction to this post has me thinking/worried that everyone is currently scrambling to join the queue outside Waverly. The same queue, I might add, that started forming earlier today before SherryFitz even got a chance to circulate the email about tomorrow's launch! :eek:

Is there a queue? I was awaiting this launch but alas am out of the country, hopefully will have some luck with the next phase. Very interested to know what the demand for these first 20 is like though - anyone able to provide and update from the site?

Blingy

Eoinconway wrote: »

Is there a queue? I was awaiting this launch but alas am out of the country, hopefully will have some luck with the next phase. Very interested to know what the demand for these first 20 is like though - anyone able to provide and update from the site?

I have heard that there is a q. Quite substantial at this stage considering how many houses there are. Sounds like They will all be sold tomorrow. Pity they can't sell more than 20. Seems like very few.

JaMarcusHustle

Blingy wrote: »

I have heard that there is a q. Quite substantial at this stage considering how many houses there are. Sounds like They will all be sold tomorrow. Pity they can't sell more than 20. Seems like very few.

How does this queuing actually work?

Do these people have mortgage approval already? Do they show up with a deposit or how does it work?

ie. Could some Joe Soap just turn up with the cash to put down a deposit without having applied for a mortgage or anything?

Don't Chute!

Was just up there. There's a little hut where you register your name number and which type house you want. The security guard told me just to register and come back in the morning. He said he doesn't know why people are staying overnight. There was about 24 cars there at about 8. Hope that works!

Blingy

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

How does this queuing actually work?

Do these people have mortgage approval already? Do they show up with a deposit or how does it work?

ie. Could some Joe Soap just turn up with the cash to put down a deposit without having applied for a mortgage or anything?

Seemingly you need a booking deposit with you solicitors details and proof of mortgage approval so probably even an approval in principle would be enough.

Blingy

Anyone know if they sold them all??

gb1985

Blingy wrote: »

Anyone know if they sold them all??

All sold as per SF

JaMarcusHustle

Any idea when future phases are released?

yesap

Anybody know what is driving this high level of interest? Seem to be right beside Seagreen and similar houses and still some of those available as far as I know?

Blingy

yesap wrote: »

Anybody know what is driving this high level of interest? Seem to be right beside Seagreen and similar houses and still some of those available as far as I know?

Seemingly Better value than the last phase of Seagreen and Seagreen sold out as far as I know. And each phase is more and more expensive. It's gone crazy.

jpd

It's a question of supply and demand - too many people chasing too few houses. Solution is to build more houses but of course, not next to me!

Woodenframe

Any idea of the pricelist for the release last week? Interested to know what the price range was. I emailed SF New homes but needless to say.. no response.

Cerco

I expect they will gauge the interest and increase the prices accordingly.
SF's mantra is to get the best price for the vendors, which is fine if you are a vendor but not for purchaser.

gb1985

Woodenframe wrote: »

Any idea of the pricelist for the release last week? Interested to know what the price range was. I emailed SF New homes but needless to say.. no response.

Prices started at 415 for 3 bed semi (Osprey) and 455 for 4 bed semi (Petrel). I think prices varied based on garden size.

Woodenframe

thanks, the launch email stated the starting price. I was wondering about the range- I assume, like Seagreen, there was only 1x 3bed @ 415 and similiarly, 1x4bed @ 455. If I remember correctly Seagreen was 455-475 for the 4 beds. Anyone know what the range was on this Waverly launch?
Cheers

eimearbeag

I got a copy of the prices from someone who got it from someone who works for SF
No 8 & 9 E415
No 4 E417
No 2, 7, 9, 10 & 12 E420
No 5 E422, 11
No 1 & 3 E425
No 22, 23 E450
No 21, 24 E460
No 18, 20, 25 E465
No 19 E470

I unfortunately missed out on a house. Out of interest, did anyone on here get one?

Woodenframe

Thanks for the info. Must compare those to the siteplan later. Bad luck missing out