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Russian ambassador to Turkey assassinated

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    #92
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users Posts: 34,069 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Russians ain't exactly the nice guys though are they?


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    #93
    Yourself isit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,257 ✭✭✭Yourself isit


    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    Russians ain't exactly the nice guys though are they?

    Not if you listen to western propoganda.


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    #94
    screamer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,135 ✭✭✭screamer


    Oh well.......


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    #95
    Oodoov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Oodoov


    Terrorist scumbag. R.i.p. to the ambassador.


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    #96
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users Posts: 34,069 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Yourself isit wrote: »
    Not if you listen to western propoganda.

    Or if you actually look for the truth


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    #97
    Oodoov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Oodoov


    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    Russians ain't exactly the nice guys though are they?

    They aren't. Neither are America by a long shot. I wonder if it was the American ambassador would you be making a similar comment.


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    #98
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Yourself isit wrote: »
    China doesn't seem to have any ambitions beyond its backyard.

    The drone they stole was in the Philippines' backyard.


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    #99
    Del.Monte
    Registered Users Posts: 12,363 ✭✭✭✭Del.Monte


    Oodoov wrote: »
    Terrorist scumbag. R.i.p. to the ambassador.

    Depending on where you're coming from. One man's freedom fighter...

    ****



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    #100
    Oodoov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Oodoov


    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Depending on where you're coming from. One man's freedom fighter...

    And your own view?


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    #101
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    Some reports stating that the shooter had a Policeman's ID on him and that gallery staff assumed he was part of the ambassador's security personal


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    #102
    Iwasfrozen
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    Hopefully Russia learns its lesson from this and gets out of Syria. There will never be peace while Assad is in power.


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    #103
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,724 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    A lone gunman my foot.
    I have no doubt state actors were involved in this, the only question is which country sanctioned it.


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    #104
    RobertKK
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    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Depending on where you're coming from. One man's freedom fighter...

    Very much a terrorist.


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    #105
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users Posts: 34,069 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Oodoov wrote: »
    They aren't. Neither are America by a long shot. I wonder if it was the American ambassador would you be making a similar comment.

    I would actually


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    #106
    RobertKK
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    nacho libre wrote: »
    A lone gunman my foot.
    I have no doubt state actors were involved in this, the only question is which country sanctioned it.

    Top of my list if a country was involved...Saudi Arabia.


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    #107
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »
    Some reports stating that the shooter had a Policeman's ID on him and that gallery staff assumed he was part of the ambassador's security personal

    He was a policeman, not just pretending to be one.


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    #108
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Hopefully Russia learns its lesson from this and gets out of Syria. There will never be peace while Assad is in power.

    You condone this act of terrorism then?


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    #109
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,746 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    All this stems from the disastrous invasion of Iraq, which was a catalyst for the Arab Spring and which has brought nothing but one disaster after another and too many lives lost to count.
    US foreign policy is the root that grew all these problems.


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    #110
    hytrogen
    Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭hytrogen


    Slydice wrote:
    Wow, Not a SINGLE word about this on TV3 news.
    What an embarrassment!


    Typical, would have cut into precious advertising time since they don't get the tv licence fee.. lol


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    #111
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,724 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Hopefully Russia learns its lesson from this and gets out of Syria. There will never be peace while Assad is in power.

    There certainly won't be peace at this stage if he goes at this stage. The best scenario is if America and Russia throwaway the chess board, come together to defeat the islamist rebels, then perhaps if Russia is convinced the threat to them from Islamic terrorism is neutralised, and their interests in Syria are secured, they might be prepared to see Assad go in an agreed political transition.


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    #112
    Iwasfrozen
    Registered Users Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    You condone this act of terrorism then?

    Never. But I condemn Russia's warcrimes in Syria.


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    #113
    dublinman1990
    Registered Users Posts: 8,398 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    I watched this on ITV News in the last hour as it was their main story. They said the ambassador was shot a total of nine times when he was killed.

    Very shocking attack. A frightening moment to be in the art gallery if it happened in front of you. Everyone in the gallery was trumatised at that moment.

    And a diplomat's family are emotionally traumatised by finding out that they have lost a loved one of theirs 6 days before Christmas.

    It is one strange story after another when looking at these attacks happening in Europe regularly. I have no idea when these attacks will end for good. Nobody seems to come up with any answers to make them stop for good. There will always be people who will carry them out because simply they are not right in their own heads & who want to destroy the foundations of society for their own good.

    Sensible people here in Europe would instantly disagree with that principle. So why should it remain to carry more misery upon us without any call for it to stop?


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    #114
    nacho libre
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    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Depending on where you're coming from. One man's freedom fighter...

    Did you have the same view when Stevens was killed in Benghazi? His killers probably thought they were freedom fighters too.


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    #115
    goose2005
    Registered Users Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    Never underestimate these Islamic killers. They have been silent recently compared to the start of the year.

    A church was blown up in Cairo 8 days ago, 25 dead.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botroseya_Church_bombing


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    #116
    Oodoov
    Closed Accounts Posts: 337 ✭✭Oodoov


    Iwasfrozen wrote: »
    Never. But I condemn Russia's warcrimes in Syria.

    They are the only ones fighting terrorists whilst America funds them. Civilians unfortunately die in war. You think the British pilots in WW2 dropping bombs on Dresden killing countless innocents should have been charged with warcrimes? There is no difference.


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    #117
    Iwasfrozen
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    nacho libre wrote: »
    Did you have the same view when Stevens was killed in Benghazi? His killers probably thought they were freedom fighters too.

    Even IRA scumbags considered themselves freedom fighters. When looking at these things there has to be such a thing as "objective wrong" and regardless of the circumstances or one's motivations killing an unarmed diplomat of your enemy is always wrong.


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    #118
    hytrogen
    Registered Users Posts: 952 ✭✭✭hytrogen


    Oodoov wrote:
    They are the only ones fighting terrorists whilst America funds them. Civilians unfortunately die in war. You think the British pilots in WW2 dropping bombs on Dresden killing countless innocents should have been charged with warcrimes? There is no difference.

    History is always written by the victors of battle, so it's always from a perspective of sides.
    Equally one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter


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    #119
    A Little Pony
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,875 ✭✭✭A Little Pony


    News coming out of Berlin, a truck attack into a christmas market. Shot reported.


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    #120
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,184 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    A Little Pony wrote: »
    News coming out of Berlin, a truck attack into a christmas market. Shot reported.

    Oh man, this is just horrendous. Hope it isn't what's being reported similar to Nice.


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    #121
    nacho libre
    Registered Users Posts: 16,724 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Top of my list if a country was involved...Saudi Arabia.

    It would not surprise me. Remember this:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/10266957/Saudis-offer-Russia-secret-oil-deal-if-it-drops-Syria.html


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