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Russian ambassador to Turkey assassinated

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    #62
    marvin80
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    Cordell wrote: »
    No, the WWI was not caused by an assassination, but you can say that it was just sparked by one. There was a much more complex chain of events before and following the assassination and there were mounting tensions between the parties. The today's event is nothing like that one, both in terms of context and motives.
    So chill, no WWIII yet.

    Someone talking sense.


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    #63
    The_Valeyard
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    Reports of shooting at US embassy now.


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    #64
    The flying mouse
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    It hasent been mentioned on Rte tv news yet ???


    Can someone give them a ring .


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    #65
    A Little Pony
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    Never underestimate these Islamic killers. They have been silent recently compared to the start of the year.


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    #66
    Slydice
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    Just mentioned on RTE news.


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    #67
    Richard Hillman
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    Cordell wrote: »
    No, the WWI was not caused by an assassination, but you can say that it was just sparked by one. There was a much more complex chain of events before and following the assassination and there were mounting tensions between the parties. The today's event is nothing like that one, both in terms of context and motives.
    So chill, no WWIII yet.


    Yes. Proxy war in Syria, Turkey shoot down Russian plane, Non Elected Eurocrats at odds with Russia for no apparent reason, near weekly murders & attacks on European Citizens from Islamists, European citizens at odds with government's over Islamic Immigration. Loads of little appetisers.


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    #68
    ChikiChiki
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    Sky keep mentioning approaching the 'endgame'. Such an omnimous sounding phrase.


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    #69
    marvin80
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    The_Valeyard wrote: »
    Reports of shooting at US embassy now.

    This is referencing the same event.The incident occurred near the US Embassy.
    (from twitter)


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    #70
    RobertKK
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    RT have showed pictures from twitter of the dead ambassador, quite graphic.

    edit they have clarified it was the gunman.


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    #71
    Yourself isit
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    Cordell wrote: »
    No, the WWI was not caused by an assassination, but you can say that it was just sparked by one. There was a much more complex chain of events before and following the assassination and there were mounting tensions between the parties. The today's event is nothing like that one, both in terms of context and motives.
    So chill, no WWIII yet.

    There's a fairly complex series of alliances, antagonisms and tensions on the middle east right now.

    In school I argued both ways on the assassination of the archduke. Histography is hindsight.


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    #72
    The_Valeyard
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    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Sky keep mentioning approaching the 'endgame'. Such an omnimous sounding phrase.

    The endgame plan for Syria. Divide up the country or some sort of deal like north Syria becoming a Turkiah territory


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    #73
    suicide_circus
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    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Sky keep mentioning approaching the 'endgame'. Such an omnimous sounding phrase.
    Sky and the like need to keep the public terrified to keep selling their product


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    #74
    Richard Hillman
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    Best case scenario here is that when Trump takes office, he buries this whole NATO thing or at least chucks Turkey out. They are a liability.

    I genuinely feel safer from the threat of War with Trump around than Clinton. The US-Russian relationship is key to peace. The U.S voter may have played a blinder with this one


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    #75
    The_Valeyard
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    News black out in Turkey


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    #76
    RobertKK
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    I wonder if the shooter was a supporter of those lovely rebels the west and Turkey support...


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    #77
    RobertKK
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    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Best case scenario here is that when Trump takes office, he buries this whole NATO thing or at least chucks Turkey out. They are a liability.

    I genuinely feel safer from the threat of War with Trump around than Clinton. The US-Russian relationship is key to peace. The U.S voter may have played a blinder with this one

    I wanted Trump to win, he did say some sensible stuff and getting along with Russia was one of them.
    At least with current events Turkey will never be in the EU, wish they had peace there, but they were never suitable for the EU.


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    #78
    Yourself isit
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    I wonder if the shooter was a supporter of those lovely rebels the west and Turkey support...

    Good chance.


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    #79
    Del.Monte
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    suicide_circus wrote: »
    Sky and the like need to keep the public terrified to keep selling their product

    Not to mention Denis O'Brien's stable with Chris O'Donoghue really hyping the story on Newstalk. I'm off to build a bunker on the strength of his reporting.

    ****



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    #80
    Renegade Mechanic
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    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    Best case scenario here is that when Trump takes office, he buries this whole NATO thing or at least chucks Turkey out. They are a liability.

    I genuinely feel safer from the threat of War with Trump around than Clinton. The US-Russian relationship is key to peace. The U.S voter may have played a blinder with this one

    There's still China - they're the ones with the expansionist policies they wanted us to think the Russians have, but if things cool off between the west and the federation, and they're allowed out of the corner they're being forced into, then China is much less likely to "go German" because they're much less likely to have an ally in Russia regarding resources and weapons. The loss of consumers would be too great for them to risk.


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    #81
    The_Valeyard
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    Del.Monte wrote: »
    Not to mention Denis O'Brien's stable with Chris O'Donoghue really hyping the story on Newstalk. I'm off to build a bunker on the strength of his reporting.

    So its a bunker made of pyrite and straw


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    #82
    Ferrari3600
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    Richard Hillman wrote: »

    I genuinely feel safer from the threat of War with Trump around than Clinton.


    So do I.


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    #83
    RobertKK
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    RT just said that Russia were targeting the oil supply chain of ISIS which was sold in Turkey and trying to stop that funding of ISIS, when Turkey shot down their plane, they went onto say that President Erdogan's son was main beneficiary of these illegal oil sales in Turkey.


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    #84
    ChikiChiki
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    RT just said that Russia were targeting the oil supply chain of ISIS which was sold in Turkey and trying to stop that funding of ISIS, when Turkey shot down their plane, they went onto say that President Erdogan's son was main beneficiary of these illegal oil sales in Turkey.

    Gloves are off!


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    #85
    jaykay74
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    The images looks like they are straight out of Reservoir Dogs


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    #86
    alchemist33
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    I wonder if the shooter was a supporter of those lovely rebels the west and Turkey support...

    The ones Russia are bombing? Probably


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    #87
    Spanish Eyes
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    Come on in to the EU.

    Turkey is so welcome. Aha.


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    #88
    sjb25
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    Incident @ U.S. embassy also?


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    #89
    RobertKK
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    sjb25 wrote: »
    Incident @ U.S. embassy also?

    No, that is all due to the incident with the Russian ambassador.


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    #90
    Yourself isit
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    Renegade Mechanic wrote: »
    There's still China - they're the ones with the expansionist policies they wanted us to think the Russians have, but if things cool off between the west and the federation, and they're allowed out of the corner they're being forced into, then China is much less likely to "go German" because they're much less likely to have an ally in Russia regarding resources and weapons. The loss of consumers would be too great for them to risk.

    China doesn't seem to have any ambitions beyond its backyard.


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    #91
    sjb25
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    No, that is all due to the incident with the Russian ambassador.

    Ahh that makes sense


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