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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion: Autumn/Winter 2016-17

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  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Course they do, Current sodium lights pollute everything in a dirty orange colour, hideous. LED's are efficient and reflect light where needed not scattered everywhere including the sky.

    LED's also allow police and security cameras identify colours because everything isn't seen a dirty yellow orange colour. You can see proper colour. So from a security aspect led's are much better.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You can also see lightning better without so much light pollution, not to mention the night sky in general.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    In the forecast for Waterford airport there is a chance of Thunderstorm small hail/snow pellets from 7pm-10pm this evening.

    Edit: Also in the Cork Airport forecast until 3am.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    In the forecast for Waterford airport there is a chance of Thunderstorm small hail/snow pellets from 7pm-10pm this evening.

    Will Waterford keep it all?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Calina wrote: »
    Will Waterford keep it all?

    Also in the Cork Airport forecast!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Calina


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Also in the Cork Airport forecast!

    Still no good. :(


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,859 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    From here, looks like an anvil/CB developing over the Dublin/Wicklow Mountains, but, cloud looks more dramatic than the radar return!


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    Probably the build up ahead of the front (trough) orographic lifting I suspect.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Looks like good potential again tonight in the SE and up along the E Coast

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    Day 1 Convective Outlook
    VALID 06:00 UTC Sat 15 Oct 2016 - 05:59 UTC Sun 16 Oct 2016

    ISSUED 07:16 UTC Sat 15 Oct 2016

    ISSUED BY: Dan

    Broad upper low will reside to the southwest of the British Isles, but with various forcing elements pivoting around its main centre of gravity to bring renewed pulses of (a messy mix of) dynamic/convective precipitation northeastwards at various stages through Saturday and Saturday night. All of these features have the potential to produce some sporadic/isolated lightning activity, most likely over open waters and on windward coasts where relatively warm SSTs beneath cold mid-levels will increase instability.

    One such feature will arrive across S/SW coastal areas this afternoon, and already has a history of producing some sporadic lightning near the Brest peninsula so far this morning, but is expected to weaken as it moves further inland through Saturday evening. Nonetheless, squally gusts of wind and some small hail will be possible from the most intense embedded cells.

    Attention then turns more to the overnight hours as the upper trough advances from the southwest, a sharpening shortwave rounding the base and running north across Ireland/Irish Sea later. An increase in shower coverage/intensity is expected here through Saturday night, and given some marginal instability have issued a low-end SLGT where slightly better environmental conditions look likely to develop to produce lightning. Again, some small hail and gusty winds will be possible with the strongest cells.

    Later in the night, another showery feature approaches the south coast from the English Channel. Given slightly better instability and stronger wind shear, this will need monitoring for the potential for a waterspout/tornado. This is considered very low risk in any one location, but similar setups in the past have yielded some tornadic activity, which is climatologically most likely along coastal areas between Gosport and Brighton

    In reality, other local-scale SLGTs could be issued, but it is near-impossible to be any more precise as to where the best ingredients could (briefly) come together to increase lightning potential on a local scale.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Yay west Clare is in that! The whole of Ireland infact.

    We really don't get our fair share of thunder here.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Looks like there could be plenty of activity overnight along coastal areas, and maybe some here around Kerry / Clare also :)

    Waterford /Wexford looks like the hotspot again

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,108 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Met Eireann 1629 update

    Bands of heavy showers with some embedded thunderstorms will spread from the south over the country this evening and tonight. The showers are likely to be heaviest and most prolonged in southern and eastern counties, with a risk of spot flooding. Southeasterly winds will increase fresh to strong in many places overnight. Lowest temperatures 5 to 9 degrees Celsius.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    A new batch of sferics being detected off Rosslare.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,108 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    1600 ,Status Yellow update

    STATUS YELLOW

    Weather Advisory for Dublin, Kilkenny, Louth, Wexford, Wicklow, Meath, Cork and Waterford
    Risk of localised spot flooding due to heavy thundery downpours.

    Issued:Saturday 15 October 2016 16:00
    Valid:Saturday 15 October 2016 16:01 to Sunday 16 October 2016 12:00


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Hal1 wrote: »
    A new batch of sferics being detected off Rosslare.

    Don't see any


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Don't see any

    I dont even see percip off Rosslare.

    Where are you seeing this?


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,108 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Nor do i, however directly south of Cork and Kinsale ,a good bit off shore, there is some recent strikes, with a further clump out to the SW


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    Apologies, I was looking at the graph since midnight :o. This, http://brunnur.vedur.is/athuganir/eldingar/

    But fear not, they will come and they will be heavy showers with frequent cg strikes! yaaayyyyyyy :).


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,108 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    lots of sparks gathering to the south and south west of ireland now.... will they make it to the coast...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Yay west Clare is in that! The whole of Ireland infact.

    We really don't get our fair share of thunder here.

    I'll send some thunder and lightning on to you by e-mail.
    An post might be too slow.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Check out http://en.sat24.com/en

    Might be some action as the low system moves over.


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    A chance of Thunderstorm Rain/Hail in the forecast in Cork airport from 7pm-3am, to 4am in Waterford airport and from 1am-9am in Dublin Airport


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Looks like a fairly intense shower will be heading right up through Cork City soon.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,108 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    Cork could be right in the firing line


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,154 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Things starting to become a lot more busier now off the south coast . Munster and Leinster could see a fair bit of activity tonight! Coastal areas favoured of course.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    pad199207 wrote: »
    Things starting to become a lot more busier now off the south coast . Munster and Leinster could see a fair bit of activity tonight! Coastal areas favoured of course.

    Yea Heavy rain corresponding with recent Sferics coming into view just off the Cork coast now.

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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,922 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,145 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Angry cell heading towards Youghal, Co.Cork


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Angry cell heading towards Youghal, Co.Cork

    There's much angrier lurking off the SW coast which will impact cork and Kerry later tonight by the colours on the UK met radar page
    On the Irish one it has a colour for less than 2mm/hr
    On the Uk bright red purple and bits of white i.e. 15 to north of 30mm/hr


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