Werewolf IV - All Hallows' Eve - GAME OVER - Villagers Win

sullivlo

Welcome to Werewolf IV - All Hallows' Eve - on boards.ie. This is the live game thread and is for live players only.


Halloween approaches. Word spreads around the village of Transylvania that there are crazed clowns wandering around to scare people. However the clowns are the least of the villagers worries. Amongst the village folk, transformations have occurred. Demons and vampires are in their midst, all fighting to gain control of the village. Michael Myers, a disgruntled villager, also roams the streets with an aim to kill. Mike doesn't care who he kills, so villagers, vampires and demons must all watch their backs.

But it's All Hallows' Eve. Not everything is as it seems. People are in costume, making it difficult to distinguish between the genuine sharp teeth and the plastic ones from Dealz. But worse - difficult to distinguish the difference between tomato ketchup and blood.

Trick or treat, trick or treat. Give them something nice to eat.

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Special Roles

The Exorcist (the priest)
The exorcist learns the role of the dead.

The junior exorcist (apprentice priest)
Becomes the exorcist of the priest is killed. The junior exorcist does not have access to the information that the exorcist learned.

Donnie Darko (the seer)
On each turn the seer may ask a player's role, however Dracula and Lucifer do not show as evil to the seer.

Donnie Junior (the apprentice seer)
Becomes Donnie Darko if the seer is killed. Donnie Junior does not have access to the information that the seer has learned.

The Shining
On the first night this person will know who the seer is, however they do not learn the identity of the apprentice seer. The seer does not learn the identity of The Shining, unless of course The Shining is a seer pick.

The Witch of Salem
If slaughtered the witch can return from the grave when the next lynch takes place, with the special role (if any) the lynched player had at the time. The witch learns their new identity, however unless the village is informed by the priest/seer, their role remains a mystery to the villagers.

Van Helsing
Has the ability to track a person every second night, if they track a vampire, Van Helsing will track the vampire back to its lair and wipe out the entire vampire colony, but at a cost to his or her own life.

Dean Winchester
Dean is the hero. The hero can choose one person to protect at night, but instead of the victim dying, the hero and the attacker both die. The hero can also protect against vampire conversion or demon shapeshifting and survive. If hero protects attack from demon team, Lucifer will die if he is not already dead.

Sam Winchester
You are a villager, but you appear falsely to be evil to the Seers, if Sam is lynched Dean will also die. Sam and Dean can communicate with each other. Sam is the only player that has the choice to work for evil or good if converted or shapeshifted.


Demon team

Each night, the demon team kill somebody.


Carrie: If the Carrie is lynched they lose control and kill one person before being lynched.

Lucifer: Lucifer is a demon and the Seer sees them as a not evil.

The Thing: The Thing has to ability to sacrifice themselves to shapeshift into any player to become a part of the Demon team, but only during the night phase. This shapeshift can be blocked by hero(Dean). If The Thing tries to shapeshift into a vampire it will fail and reveal their identity to the vampires.


Vampire Team


Dracula: Every night Dracula can choose to kill or convert someone. Dracula is not seen as evil to the seer. Dracula has a one time seer check at his disposal

Converted players keep any special roles as they had before becoming vampires.

If the vampires try to convert a demon it will fail and the demons will learn one vampire identity. If vampire tries to convert Van Hesling, all vampires die along with Van Hesling.

If Dracula dies, his team of vampires can continue to kill, however they can no longer convert anybody.


Lone team

Michael Myers: The serial killer is a lone player, on their own team. As the serial killer, you can kill anyone every second night. Michaels first kill will occur on night two.

If converted by vampire or shapeshifted into by a demon , the vampire or demon team will have 2 kills for the following night.


Bonus roles

Beetlejuice: A player with the Beetlejuice role can continue to post in a game thread for two full phases after their death

Anyone can have the Beetlejuice role.

Lunatic: You are a villager until the third night, when you come to your senses and remember your real role, which will be revealed to you by the mod via PM.


Win Conditions
The villagers win if they wipe out the three evil teams. Each of the evil teams win if they wipe out the other evil teams and reach parity with the villagers.


Note
If required, game mods can activate speed mode which give extra kills and lynchs at the mods discretion.

1. If you are killed, do not post in the thread again, unless of course you have a special role.
2. Don’t cheat, it’s a game that relies heavily on the players having integrity. No PMing other players in the game, and no chat about the game outside of this game thread.
3. Please all try to reasonably contribute to the game thread and always remember to get a vote in as a minimum. The game is too small to mod kill inactives.
4. No posting of any PM's from the game mod or referring to the content of them.
5. Game starts with a vampire slaughter to be revealed at 10am tomorrow morning.
6. If you've got any questions for me send me a message.
7. Win conditions are listed above.
8. Don’t be a sensitive soul. While boards own forum rules clearly take precedence over any in-game rules that I have, this is a game where people will be insulted, there will be some bad language and people will try to provoke a reaction out of each other. Please accept this is part of the game and don’t go annoying the mods with the report post button unless really needed. Reported posts will be dealt with by sullivlo and degrassinoel
9. If someone misses 2 votes in a row without a good reason they will be modkilled by me and replaced with a substitute.
10. DO NOT EVER EDIT A POST. IF YOU HIT THE POST REPLY BUTTON THEN LIVE WITH IT. YELLOW CARDS AND RED CARDS WILL BE HANDED OUT TO PLAYERS WHO EDIT POSTS. SIMILARLY, DO NOT EVER DELETE A POST.
    Forum mods have the ability to see previous versions of posts and deleted posts.
11. Do not share your vote form password to anyone else. All votes for the lynch have to be made by yourself.
12. Have fun, make meme’s, take the piss and try to enjoy the game.

I may have left out some rules and if anything comes up in the game I’ll answer any PM’s and on some occasions I may even post rule clarifications in the thread.

Lynch Form
https://goo.gl/forms/Q8cqb7GYYtvBHLrz1

Roster

1. quickbeam
2. mahamageehad
3. MicksJaguar
4. A neurotic
5. tritium
6. y0ssar1an22
7. Uriel.
8. The_Valeyard
9. gufc21
10. Digital Solitude
11. Tigger
12. Maximus Alexander
13. Mollyb60
14. partyjungle
15. dottie_lottie
16. Stoogie
17. Barney92
18. cee_jay
19. Xaracatz
20. Nopeare
21. MrsFlushdraw
22. The Dazzler
23. Shane.C
24. Chagan
25. Crosstownk

Rule clarifications
Will be updated as required.

Im suspicious of any early posters.....

mahamageehad

Just when you think the rules can't get any more complicated! :pac:

Tigger

ihavenoideawhatshapening

tritium

Woo hoo, we're underway!

Seriously going to have to study those rules, this one is complicated!

Tigger

tritium wrote: »

Woo hoo, we're underway!

Seriously going to have to study those rules, this one is complicated!

your think?

cee_jay

Tigger wrote: »

ihavenoideawhatshapening

That makes 2 of us

crosstownk

Can we delay the start until next week, please?

I need time to study all this.

It's like a leaving cert syllabus.

tritium

Its the mods i feel sorry for, so many questions coming their way :pac:

tritium

cee_jay wrote: »

That makes 2 of us

3 of us

crosstownk

tritium wrote: »

3 of us

All of us!

MrsFlushdraw

Oh my! some interesting but confusing roles/rules.

Good luck village, we are going to need it!

Tigger

ok so the hero dies if they protect sucessfully but if they protect the kill a baddies and there are onlt 4 baddies
on that basis i'm hoping that the Hero would plesae protect me thanks very much as i feel i moght be a likley target
innfact i'd point out to the baddies that while it would be hillarious to killme o the first noght it could back fire on them as they will loses a playr

Tigger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBwS66EBUcY

Trigger is Michael Myers:

mahamageehad

So, before I even delve into trying to understand all the rules, let's focus on the first kills.

So presumably we can potentially lose 2 people tonight.
The Demons kill 1 and the vampires kill (or convert) 1.
What happens if they target the same person and the demons want to kill but the vampires want to convert? What incentive is there for the vampires to kill someone, surely it makes more sense to keep converting and infest the village?

On the apprentices, do they know who the other is? I.e. does the apprentice priest know who the priest is?

I don't get the shapeshifting thing, is that also like converting them?

On the lunatic, when they remember their role, will it be one of the roles already outlined in the OP or will it be a different role?

On the witch, if murdered she comes back after the next lynch. Presumably that's only if she's murdered by demons/vampires and not if she's lynched? Also, let's just say the witch is killed, then I'm lynched (simple villager). She rejoins the game (as a simple villager) but obviously as she has rejoined everyone knows she's a witch right?

I probably have 400 more questions but that's what jumped out at me first!

Tigger

ok a few thinks fromthe rules
1 the exorcist will know each person as they die and can tellus when thy feel it suits, however they should not tell if the hero or van hel or any other player that the baddies will be nervous about as there is no advantage to us knowing they are dead but a big advantage to the baddies

b dracula is a tribble and he needs to be gone because by thursday there could be 5 vamps which is not only a lot opf vamps but its a serious voting block

III tyhe thing has to die and then aqnother player joins the demon team? he or she willonly do this to catch the seer or the exorcist or soemthing good so i don't think thats gonna happen early but when it does the seer or exorcist will go from real to a demon, also dracula can just convert any person who comes out as something interesting and we wont know. fcuk should we have loads of villagers pretending to be roles to cionfuse him?

Tigger

Deleted User wrote: »

Trigger is Michael Myers:

ok well if i see a Trigger i'll vote for him

The_Valeyard

Sure I can't play!! No werewolves!

Tigger

The_Valeyard wrote: »

Sure I can't play!! No werewolves!

Tigger

mahamageehad wrote: »

So, before I even delve into trying to understand all the rules, let's focus on the first kills.

So presumably we can potentially lose 2 people tonight.
The Demons kill 1 and the vampires kill (or convert) 1.
What happens if they target the same person and the demons want to kill but the vampires want to convert? What incentive is there for the vampires to kill someone, surely it makes more sense to keep converting and infest the village?

On the apprentices, do they know who the other is? I.e. does the apprentice priest know who the priest is?

I don't get the shapeshifting thing, is that also like converting them?

On the lunatic, when they remember their role, will it be one of the roles already outlined in the OP or will it be a different role?

On the witch, if murdered she comes back after the next lynch. Presumably that's only if she's murdered by demons/vampires and not if she's lynched? Also, let's just say the witch is killed, then I'm lynched (simple villager). She rejoins the game (as a simple villager) but obviously as she has rejoined everyone knows she's a witch right?

I probably have 400 more questions but that's what jumped out at me first!

everyone knows she was the witch she becomes a confir med villager
thing is confirmed villagers are normally awesome aas tyou can trust them but in this game drac will just convert them safe knowing they are not Van heilsing and the village will thing they are innocent
so the more innocent we think someone is the more likley they are a vamp

this is awesome

Tigger

on the lynchi9ng i propose we race to lowest two or three post counts
what do poeopple thik about that idea

Stoogie

Tigger wrote: »

on the lynchi9ng i propose we race to lowest two or three post counts
what do poeopple thik about that idea

Acually a good idea.

crosstownk

Tigger wrote: »

on the lynchi9ng i propose we race to lowest two or three post counts
what do poeopple thik about that idea

The first lynch is always a messy one. No theories so any system is just as good no system.

tritium

Tigger wrote: »

everyone knows she was the witch she becomes a confir med villager
thing is confirmed villagers are normally awesome aas tyou can trust them but in this game drac will just convert them safe knowing they are not Van heilsing and the village will thing they are innocent
so the more innocent we think someone is the more likley they are a vamp

this is awesome

In which case after a few days van helsing becomes our key role id assume?

Digital Solitude

Confused.com

This is way more complex than the last game

Tigger

tritium wrote: »

In which case after a few days van helsing becomes our key role id assume?

yeah van heilsing is the most importantif he catches one vamp he gets them all
don't forget that the demons will approve of that in fact thats the one position that the thing would be worth dying to convert

sullivlo

tritium wrote: »

Its the mods i feel sorry for, so many questions coming their way :pac:

Me too :PAC:

Bear with me whilst I compose responses. Also those with special roles should now have access to their forum on http://changeofplangames. com/wwforum/index.php

Stoogie

VH is dracula's kryptonite.

cee_jay

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Confused.com

This is way more complex than the last game

This is my first ever game, thought the only way to learn was to play. There is a lot of confusion now, I think I have read the opening post 4 times already!

Tigger

cee_jay wrote: »

This is my first ever game, thought the only way to learn was to play. There is a lot of confusion now, I think I have read the opening post 4 times already!

i'll explain it to you , whaats your role?

sullivlo

mahamageehad wrote: »

So, before I even delve into trying to understand all the rules, let's focus on the first kills.

So presumably we can potentially lose 2 people tonight.
The Demons kill 1 and the vampires kill (or convert) 1.
What happens if they target the same person and the demons want to kill but the vampires want to convert? What incentive is there for the vampires to kill someone, surely it makes more sense to keep converting and infest the village?

There will be a competition for the first kill. If the demons win, they get the kill. If Dracula wins the vamps get a kill OR convert. If the demons win, Dracula still has the convert option.

On the apprentices, do they know who the other is? I.e. does the apprentice priest know who the priest is?

Nope, all secret

I don't get the shapeshifting thing, is that also like converting them?

Its like a conversion yes, but it can be blocked as outlined above

On the lunatic, when they remember their role, will it be one of the roles already outlined in the OP or will it be a different role?

Time will tell

On the witch, if murdered she comes back after the next lynch. Presumably that's only if she's murdered by demons/vampires and not if she's lynched? Also, let's just say the witch is killed, then I'm lynched (simple villager). She rejoins the game (as a simple villager) but obviously as she has rejoined everyone knows she's a witch right?

The witch takes on the new role when she rejoins. If a villager is lynched, she becomes a villager. She knows her own role. Her old role doesn't matter.

I probably have 400 more questions but that's what jumped out at me first!

Hope this helps

cee_jay

Tigger wrote: »

i'll explain it to you , whaats your role?

mahamageehad

Tigger wrote: »

everyone knows she was the witch she becomes a confir med villager
thing is confirmed villagers are normally awesome aas tyou can trust them but in this game drac will just convert them safe knowing they are not Van heilsing and the village will thing they are innocent
so the more innocent we think someone is the more likley they are a vamp

this is awesome

Hmm but we won't know if the witch is a villager because we won't have known what the lynched player was. Actually, presumably we won't be lynching someone who's a confirmed villager. Only the witch and the priest and the dead player would know that role.

Tigger

voting history counts for little in this game

cos peple change i could be voting as a villager for three ldays and then on day 4 bang im a drackling

however id'ng the vamps a a voting block is pretty cool cos van heilsing canm track any one of them and kill all the vamps

Tigger

mahamageehad wrote: »

Hmm but we won't know if the witch is a villager because we won't have known what the lynched player was. Actually, presumably we won't be lynching someone who's a confirmed villager. Only the witch and the priest and the dead player would know that role.

if we lynch the witch we will notice she isnt dead

Tigger

she gets slaughtered then comes back so how do we know know she was the withc

I'm highly suspicious of anyone who has read the rules and of anyone with a post count in double digits

mahamageehad

sullivlo wrote: »

Hope this helps

Yes it helps thanks! So the demons have a shapeshifting conversion plus a kill every night?

Tigger

morning
boring story that amounts to hTigger was slaughtered
at lynch time
tigger comes back
so qed tigger was the witch an dis now a confirmed villy

then that noght drac turns tigger into drackling as he is safe

Tigger

mahamageehad wrote: »

Yes it helps thanks! So the demons have a shapeshifting conversion plus a kill every night?

once the shapeshifter shifts hes dead
so no

Tigger

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm highly suspicious of anyone who has read the rules and of anyone with a post count in double digits

ah will you give over
if i wasn't posting you'd be highly suspiciouss of me because i normally post lost and now i'm posting littlke

Tigger

so if we are luck enought to lynch drac does the which become him?

Tigger

Tigger wrote: »

ah will you give over
if i wasn't posting you'd be highly suspiciouss of me because i normally post lost and now i'm posting littlke

Im only messing with you standard practice by me on Day 1, its ok now you have a free 2 hours from me but I'll be back

MrsFlushdraw

No chance of Tigger being lynched tonight because of low post count

Tigger

thas not why i think we should race the low post i think ter is too mubch scope to hide and i said it early to avoid it meaning anyone cos at thaty point most people hadn't even posted yet

Stoogie

Tigger wrote: »

thas not why i think we should race the low post i think ter is too mubch scope to hide and i said it early to avoid it meaning anyone cos at thaty point most people hadn't even posted yet

Handy side effect tho

Tigger

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=2057662434

I think there has been some kind of mistake. The Mod PM'd me telling me I'm the nightking?

Triceratops Ballet

Wow! Is there a dummies guide?!

crosstownk

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think there has been some kind of mistake. The Mod PM'd me telling me I'm the nightking?

Good evening, Mr Meyers.