Liveline thread 28/09/16 to date

snubbleste

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Joe perks up when moderately posh-sounding caller comes on air. He's like the court jester in medieval times desperately seeking approval from his master.

a labrador..

snubbleste

Dial emma

ButtersSuki

somesoldiers wrote: »

I have a paid companion too- she charges more than e25 an hour though, full GFE

Maybe, but she love you long time.....

snubbleste

I did not find Sadie funny..

ButtersSuki

snubbleste wrote: »

Dial emma

More Die-Lemma I thought.

ButtersSuki

snubbleste wrote: »

a labrador..

A labrador is far more intelligent than the host of this show.

ButtersSuki

Gotta dash folks..."enjoy" the rest of the show.

TheHomeService

Just popping in for a minute, between calls.

Corpse count for today?

Roger_007

Nursing homes are little more than prisons for old people!

Mena Mitty

snubbleste wrote: »

copyright butterssuki

Home instead in the homestead, to us etc

Cdosrun

ButtersSuki wrote: »

Gotta dash folks..."enjoy" the rest of the show.

Get back here and stick it out with us until you hear the word Yew.

snubbleste

TheHomeService wrote: »

Just popping in for a minute, between calls.
Corpse count for today?

Zero.

Cdosrun

TheHomeService wrote: »

Just popping in for a minute, between calls.

Corpse count for today?

Two.
A man looked after his mother for two years and she died.
A mans relative died abroad I think.

snubbleste

Regina Hennelly produced.

Harry Angstrom

Cdosrun wrote: »

Get back here and stick it out with us until you hear the word Yew.

It's Yew's day off.

ButtersSuki

TheHomeService wrote: »

Just popping in for a minute, between calls.

Corpse count for today?

Cdosrun wrote: »

Two.
A man looked after his mother for two years and she died.
A mans relative died abroad I think.

Lady Chatterton

I can't seem to get poor Sadie out of my head since listening to her speak to Joe earlier. I found it so distressing to listen to a woman who seemed to be intelligent and articulate in such an unhappy state. There are obviously two sides to the story and perhaps her family have very good reason for wanting her to remain in the nursing home.

I remember my grandmother having a stroke when she was 70 and the family placed her in a nursing home type facility for a six week period so she would have daily access to speech and language therapy and physiotherapy. She was completely miserable there and begged to go home day every day. I know if she had spoken to Joe Duffy during that time she would have had some choice words for her family. In the end, the time in the nursing home greatly assisted her recovery and she returned home where she lived happily and independently for another 15 years with some help from her family and a home help. It's regrettable that Sadie felt that she had to resort to phoning Joe but it shows a certain level of desperation on her part. I sincerely hope things work out for Sadie and her family.

snubbleste

Lady Chatterton wrote: »

I can't seem to get poor Sadie out of my head since listening to her speak to Joe earlier. I found it so distressing to listen to a woman who seemed to be intelligent and articulate in such an unhappy state. ...

I agree.
She was supposed to be on Wednesday and I commented on it. That's an entire day that she was waiting..
This was on the promo...I'm getting worried
We're got a call coming through from a nursing home, she wants out but her family won't allow it

Mary63

It seems terrible that the Nursing Home said he relatives had to sign her out.Sadie would be old enough to remember when relatives signed people they didn't want around into Mental Health facilities and you had to stay there until you were signed out.

Elderly people are put into nursing homes because it suits the family.Sadie is very with it,she knew to check her bank accounts and she knows she can stop the nursing home payments.It does sound like the family got her in on the pre text of getting her hip repaired when the real intention was that she wouldn't be going home.

I hope her home hasn't been sold or rented out,she has the suitcase packed and can walk out the door of the nursing home whenever she wants.

Her family must have been wetting themselves listening to her,it was very upsetting,she came across as very sane but there is two sides to everything.Joe should invite her daughter to give her side of the story.She is probably working full-time and simply can't keep an eye on her mother.No one cares about children or old people,shove them in a creche or a nursing home and keep the economy going.I never have a good word to say about travellers but they do take care of their elderly members.

somesoldiers

Stop the payments & they won't be long about packing her bags for her

Dan Jaman

somesoldiers wrote: »

Don't all cigarettes have anti-smoulder stuff in them now- so unless you keep puffing on it, it will go out so to speak

That's what used to happen to them, before the tobacco companies added saltpetre, which keeps it smouldering.
Unfortunately, smouldering saltpetre isn't good for you. What a surprise, eh.
I suppose they thought they were being 'healthier' and somesuch balleaux and could make a marketing point about how less dangerous their new fags are now that they've taken the saltpetre out. Great stuff - how about not making it even more dangerous in the first place?

sligojoek

Guard's wife: I literally have two children. And a mortgage. I have to mind children and pay tax on what I make.

I've news for you. I have four children and a mortgage. Sometimes I work for two weeks. sometimes I don't. I get on with it. I have no guaranteed salary and pension from the state. I don't bother ringing (or be rang by) radio stations.

PeterTheNinth

sligojoek wrote: »

Guard's wife: I literally have two children. And a mortgage. I have to mind children and pay tax on what I make.

That's the thing I dont get Joe. If they dont like it, then do something else. The State is not forcing them to stay working as guards so they do have the option to work at something else if they think their skills will get them better pay and conditions somewhere else. There's plenty of people queued up behind them to take the jobs that they dont want, who are prepared to sign up to the conditions that they find unfair.

So, guards, don't bother going on strike. If you're not happy with the terms and conditions, then don't hold a gun to the public's head. Just leave the job and do something else. And that goes for the teachers as well.

Terrontress

Under no circumstances can a human of 92 be considered young in any way, shape or form. The body is not designed to last that long and anyone who finds themselves alive at that age is invariably extremely limited in their faculties, both mental and physical. That man was alluding to the fact that he had to help his mother go to the toilet, which he found tough due to the gender difference. Undoubtedly a very difficult situation, caused entirely by his mother's age. And Joe describes her 92 years (although it could be that she's 91 as he said she was in her 92nd year) as youngish.

I think he believes that he is being polite by not acknowledging age. He described some man in America who died in his late 70s as still being young. Never mind that poor soul who had the breakdown live on air.

somesoldiers

I hope the irony was not lost on the Guard’s wife yesterday that she was explaining the hardship of someone being paid 48K a year including overtime for 48 weeks of the year, working in all conditions, all hours, with all manner of the lowest society has to offer in a lot of cases….

To a man that sits on his ar$e for 75 minutes a weekday 40 weeks of the year at best, answering phones and gets paid the equivalent of 8.5 guards on similar conditions to her husband

What a country we live in

sligojoek

sligojoek wrote: »

I've news for you. I have four children and a mortgage. Sometimes I work for two weeks. sometimes I don't. I get on with it. I have no guaranteed salary and pension from the state. I don't bother ringing (or be rang by) radio stations.

There's a chap begging on the street on my way to lunch every day, probably around the same age as me. I'm not going to move into his hostel with him, or refuse a pay rise, or skip lunch, regardless of the sympathy I feel for his situation.

Solidarity does not mean everyone should reduce themselves to the lowest common denominator. Maybe you should join a trade union, or try find a better employer who is capable of providing stable employment. You won't suddenly become any wealthier just because some young Garda is paid as badly as a Tesco worker. And there are no tax rises planned, so you won't suddenly become poorer because that Garda is being paid a wage he can live on, and support his family, and which adequately reflects the risk to his health which is associated with policing.

There was a man on Liveline the other day who snorted out some line like, "They all knew the pay rates when they joined, if they don't like it they should leave". If everyone took that approach to work, you might as well abolish trade unions altogether, why even maintain a right to strike?

I think the Gardaí were right to strike, especially in respect of younger members of the organisation. They are entitled to seek a fair wage, and so is everybody, including yourself and myself. After all, most SIPTU members work in the private sector.

ThisRegard

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

just because some young Garda is paid as badly as a Tesco worker.

Do you actually know how much a store worker in Tesco, say on a pre96 contract, is paid?

ButtersSuki

somesoldiers wrote: »

I hope the irony was not lost on the Guard’s wife yesterday that she was explaining the hardship of someone being paid 48K a year including overtime for 48 weeks of the year, working in all conditions, all hours, with all manner of the lowest society has to offer in a lot of cases….

To a man that sits on his ar$e for 75 minutes a weekday 40 weeks of the year at best, answering phones and gets paid the equivalent of 8.5 guards on similar conditions to her husband

What a country we live in

The skilled charlatan has managed to instill a belief in his followers that he does his "job" in RTÉ for €30,000 a year. They'd get some shock if they ever figured out he takes home more than that every month.

We haven't had a salt o de irth on in a while saying "I'm just an ordinary art decent working man struggling to get by on a few shillings LIKE YOURSELF JOE", while Duffy in the background gives it the "sure sure sure sure aren't we all?" treatment. The man is such a devious fraud he makes Bertie Ahern and Ivan Calorie look misunderstood.

sligojoek

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

sligojoek wrote: »

I've news for you. I have four children and a mortgage. Sometimes I work for two weeks. sometimes I don't. I get on with it. I have no guaranteed salary and pension from the state. I don't bother ringing (or be rang by) radio stations.

There's a chap begging on the street on my way to lunch every day, probably around the same age as me. I'm not going to move into his hostel with him, or refuse a pay rise, or skip lunch, regardless of the sympathy I feel for his situation.

Solidarity does not mean everyone should reduce themselves to the lowest common denominator. Maybe you should join a trade union, or try find a better employer who is capable of providing stable employment. You won't suddenly become any wealthier just because some young Garda is paid as badly as a Tesco worker. And there are no tax rises planned, so you won't suddenly become poorer because that Garda is being paid a wage he can live on, and support his family, and which adequately reflects the risk to his health which is associated with policing.

There was a man on Liveline the other day who snorted out some line like, "They all knew the pay rates when they joined, if they don't like it they should leave". If everyone took that approach to work, you might as well abolish trade unions altogether, why even maintain a right to strike?

I think the Garda were right to strike, especially in respect of younger members of the organisation. They are entitled to seek a fair wage, and so is everybody, including yourself and myself. After all, most SIPTU members work in the private sector.

If there's a union for self employed Tiler's I might join it.

ThisRegard

ThisRegard wrote: »

Do you actually know how much a store worker in Tesco, say on a pre96 contract, is paid?

There's no such thing as a pre-1996 contract anymore. They all had to accept lower salaries or their employment was made redundant.

Even before the new contracts were imposed, there were more Tesco workers on family income supplement than there were on pre-1996 contracts.

At a time when employment is being consistently devalued, more people in the private sector ought to be looking to the Garda's actions as a motivation to seek fairness for their own remuneration, instead of complaining to the internet about poor wages. Or complaining to Liveline for that matter. It gets you nowhere.

I'm not talking about mad payrises by the way. I'm very skeptical about the need for pay rises for AGSI, for example. I'm mostly talking about the genuinely low paid, across the private and public sectors.