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June Internationals Wk 1: How I Learned to Stop Working and Love the Bomb...

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    #302
    Buer
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    Australia deserved to concede for that absolutely bizarre and awful call.

    Robshaw would be absolutely pilloried if he had made that decision.


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    #303
    Kiwi_knock
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    Haskell was absolutely immense, completely outshone the Aussie backrow.

    2nd test will be a cracker.


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    #304
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Buer wrote: »
    Australia deserved to concede for that absolutely bizarre and awful call.

    Robshaw would be absolutely pilloried if he had made that decision.

    An atrocious decision, the amount of time taken off the clock for 3 points...

    Cheika is furious I'd imagine


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    #305
    LuckyGent88
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    That was another thoroughly enjoyable game. England just stronger and much smarter than Australia. Australia gifted England a lot of points.


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    #306
    awec
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    An atrocious decision, the amount of time taken off the clock for 3 points...

    Cheika is furious I'd imagine

    Yea, go to the corner, go for the try and then if time go for the win.

    Giving yourself 90 seconds to get the full length of the field though is insane.


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    #307
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    I was referring to Super Hooper's impact!

    I know, but you were talking about the comeback. I was just pulling your leg.


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    #308
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    awec wrote: »
    Yea, go to the corner, go for the try and then if time go for the win.

    Giving yourself 90 seconds to get the full length of the field though is insane.

    And also attacking a team who need points is completely different to attacking a team who just need to kill the ball.

    Stuart Barnes showed himself up a bit praising it I thought. Not surprising from the worst person in the history of verbal communication.


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    #309
    molloyjh
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    awec wrote: »
    I think if Australia sort out their discipline they'll still win this series. IMO they played better rugby today, they just need to sort out their work at the breakdown and tweak the scrum.

    Australia played better attacking rugby, but England were smarter and more accurate. They had a better place kicker, a coach who wasn't afraid to make important call early on, they adapted to how Australia played far better, their line out was better, they were stronger and they were more disciplined. In more ways than not they were the better team.


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    #310
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Is this the right place to celebrate Irish u20s famous upcoming win against the Baby Blacks?


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    #311
    English Lurker
    Registered Users Posts: 609 ✭✭✭English Lurker


    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    And also attacking a team who need points is completely different to attacking a team who just need to kill the ball.

    Stuart Barnes showed himself up a bit praising it I thought. Not surprising from the worst person in the history of verbal communication.

    I honestly might have enjoyed that sentence more than the game and I'm pretty chuffed right now about the game.


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    #312
    swiwi_
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    irishbucsfan wrote: »
    Is this the right place to celebrate Irish u20s famous upcoming win against the Baby Blacks?

    Are you a fat lady IBF?


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    #313
    Zzippy
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    Never heard Farrell speak before. For some reason I always thought he'd have a Cockney accent (think obnoxious Cockney). Proper northern brogue instead!


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    #314
    swiwi_
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    I don't really care who wins the series but I really hope Aussie win next week.

    We deserve a decider.


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    #315
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Are you a fat lady IBF?

    That's why I moved to the UK, to work for Nigel Wray.


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    #316
    molloyjh
    Registered Users Posts: 24,745 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Zzippy wrote: »
    Never heard Farrell speak before. For some reason I always thought he'd have a Cockney accent (think obnoxious Cockney). Proper northern brogue instead!

    You know nothing Mod Zzippy. :pac:


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    #317
    Zzippy
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,166 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zzippy


    molloyjh wrote: »
    You know nothing Mod Zzippy. :pac:

    I do now! ;)


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    #318
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Corbisiero doesn't look like he'll be back playing any time soon. Looks like he might eat D'Arcy as a half time treat


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    #319
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Do the Baby Blacks play together before the JWC? I always wonder how they look so good at the tournament


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    #320
    molloyjh
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    Buer wrote: »
    Australia deserved to concede for that absolutely bizarre and awful call.

    Robshaw would be absolutely pilloried if he had made that decision.

    Hmmm that's a tough one in the context.

    Option 1: Go to the line

    Australias line-out was poor so they were always going to be under pressure there. There was no guarantee of securing the ball for starters. With it being a 7 point game they needed to get the try and conversion as well. And given that Foley wasn't exactly the most accurate there that adds to the pressure. The try needs to be scored closer to the posts. We already saw them unwilling to go wide when it was on earlier because of this.

    Option 2: Go for the points

    Guarantee 3 points (as they were right in front of the posts) and go looking for the try to win it rather than draw. You have to go for it from your own half with next to no time left on the clock but you're not as limited in where you can dot down.

    In all fairness it's a bit lose-lose really.


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    #321
    Adbrowne
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    wales looked a bit jaded in the final quarter and that doesnt bode well for the next 2 tests. Think today might be the narrowest defeat they suffer on this tour

    England I reckon will win one of the remaining two tests.


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    #322
    English Lurker
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    So a deliberate knock on 30m out on a 3 on 1 is a yellow card, but coming straight in from the side to play the scrum-half in a ruck 10m out isn't?

    Vive le consistency.


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    #323
    .ak
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    Well that was a good Saturday.


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    #324
    mfceiling
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    .ak wrote: »
    Well that was a good Saturday.

    Good? GOOD? Bloody hell man..what would constitute a great one!!


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    #325
    irishbucsfan
    Registered Users Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Good? GOOD? Bloody hell man..what would constitute a great one!!

    20s/Senior/Women Triple Slam


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    #326
    Adbrowne
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    Argies 17-16 Italy at half time


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    #327
    b.gud
    Registered Users Posts: 4,799 ✭✭✭b.gud


    mfceiling wrote: »
    Good? GOOD? Bloody hell man..what would constitute a great one!!

    The last Saturday of the 2015 6 Nations


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    #328
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 23,929 Mod ✭✭✭✭TICKLE_ME_ELMO


    Italy lost to Argentina in O'Shea's first match in charge.


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    #329
    Teferi
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    TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »
    Italy lost to Argentina in O'Shea's first match in charge.

    30-24. Not a bad result, considering!


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    #330
    English Lurker
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    In all fairness it's a bit lose-lose really.

    Yeah. The real answer is "Don't constantly hand over territory, possession and kicking opportunities until you're over a score down in the last 10 minutes". There were a lot of fairly unforced mistakes by the Australians and I don't think England win the game without them, not when they had virtually no possession and territory for longer periods, missed over 20 tackles and conceded 4 tries. I'm still a bit puzzled by it to be honest.

    I'd be a bit scared of the next two games to be honest - am expecting improvement and expecting a reaction - but then I heard Pocock's out. Wish he was playing but England's chances just skyrocketed.


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    #331
    irishbucsfan
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    English Lurker wrote: »
    Yeah. The real answer is "Don't constantly hand over territory, possession and kicking opportunities until you're over a score down in the last 10 minutes". There were a lot of fairly unforced mistakes by the Australians and I don't think England win the game without them, not when they had virtually no possession and territory for longer periods, missed over 20 tackles and conceded 4 tries. I'm still a bit puzzled by it to be honest.

    I'd be a bit scared of the next two games to be honest - am expecting improvement and expecting a reaction - but then I heard Pocock's out. Wish he was playing but England's chances just skyrocketed.

    What is the current sentiment amongst English Lurkers in the Goode v. Brown debate?


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