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All households must be registered with a licensed waste collector by July 1

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    #32
    HensVassal
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    mansize wrote: »
    You have to seen to disposing of your rubbish correctly

    Am I fcuking alone in the world here? How is this going to stop people illegally dumping stuff. Unless everyone pays a flat fee for garbage disposal even if they never put a bin on the street.


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    #33
    mansize
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    HensVassal wrote: »
    Am I fcuking alone in the world here? How is this going to stop people illegally dumping stuff. Unless everyone pays a flat fee for garbage disposal even if they never put a bin on the street.

    If you are caught you are fined. Why is this so difficult for people???

    I live alone, I pay for bins that are usually only 1/2 full.


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    #34
    mariaalice
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    mansize wrote: »
    Shouldn't that be in the compost bin?

    You cant out cat litter in the compost bin


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    #35
    mansize
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    You can't put mattresses in regular waste anyway. Most companies will take away your old one when you buy a new one


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    #36
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    HensVassal wrote: »
    Am I fcuking alone in the world here? How is this going to stop people illegally dumping stuff. Unless everyone pays a flat fee for garbage disposal even if they never put a bin on the street.
    So John registers with a bin collection company. But he never puts the bins out because he dumps his bags in the mountains.

    However, the bin collection company are getting peed off. They keep sending a truck to John's house but there's nothing there. So instead they introduce a registration charge which doubles as an account credit. You pay them €60 at the start of the year and then they deduct the cost of collections from that €60.

    John of course now reckons, fnck it, he's paying anyway, so why not just put the bins out instead of going to the hassle of driving them up the mountains in the dark twice a week?


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    #37
    neacy69
    Registered Users Posts: 2,823 ✭✭✭neacy69


    seamus wrote: »
    So John registers with a bin collection company. But he never puts the bins out because he dumps his bags in the mountains.

    However, the bin collection company are getting peed off. They keep sending a truck to John's house but there's nothing there. So instead they introduce a registration charge which doubles as an account credit. You pay them €60 at the start of the year and then they deduct the cost of collections from that €60.

    John of course now reckons, fnck it, he's paying anyway, so why not just put the bins out instead of going to the hassle of driving them up the mountains in the dark twice a week?

    John also pays by weight so fly tips any big/heavy stuff


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    #38
    HensVassal
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    mansize wrote: »
    If you are caught you are fined. Why is this so difficult for people???

    I live alone, I pay for bins that are usually only 1/2 full.

    You have always been fined if you are caught for illegal dumping. This is just another money grubbing scam under the guise of protecting the environment. The Irish are such suckers. Back in the day there was an incentive to return your bottles. You got 5p back for them. Then some schmuck scrapped that program while some other schmuck decided "hey, how about I generate loads of money by charging the public idiots to take their bottles? Ka-ching!"

    Complete scam and the Irish just never learn.


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    #39
    mansize
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    You cant out cat litter in the compost bin

    Goodl to know. I didn't have a compost bin so it went in the waste bin anyway


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    #40
    joeysoap
    Registered Users Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    If two neighbours share a bin is that now going to be illegal? If your children, living nearby use your bin is that now going to be illegal. Are they saying two neighbours must register and the second set of bins sits unused. What if my son registers and just stores the bins without actually using them? No fcuking wonder that labour minister was classed as a tosser by everybody (Delaney excepted)


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    #41
    Jayop
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    HensVassal wrote: »
    You have always been fined if you are caught for illegal dumping. This is just another money grubbing scam under the guise of protecting the environment. The Irish are such suckers. Back in the day there was an incentive to return your bottles. You got 5p back for them. Then some schmuck scrapped that program while some other schmuck decided "hey, how about I generate loads of money by charging the public idiots to take their bottles? Ka-ching!"

    Complete scam and the Irish just never learn.

    You pay to have bottles removed??

    Why?


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    #42
    mansize
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    joeysoap wrote: »
    If two neighbours share a bin is that now going to be illegal? If your children, living nearby use your bin is that now going to be illegal. Are they saying two neighbours must register and the second set of bins sits unused. What if my son registers and just stores the bins without actually using them? No fcuking wonder that labour minister was classed as a tossed by everybody (ok Delaney excepted)

    I'm sure that can be explained


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    #43
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,223 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    You have to pay to recycle and use the rubbish tip in Ireland? That's nuts. Would free rubbish tips not be a good deterrant to fly tipping?
    Probably not actually, the kind of cünt that does that presumably enjoys it.


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    #44
    mansize
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    pickarooney wrote: »
    You have to pay to recycle and use the rubbish tip in Ireland? That's nuts. Would free rubbish tips not be a good deterrant to fly tipping?
    Probably not actually, the kind of cünt that does that presumably enjoys it.

    We don't pay the same rates of council tax as the UK so waste is paid for separately


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    #45
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,414 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    neacy69 wrote: »
    John also pays by weight so fly tips any big/heavy stuff


    It's not the big heavy stuff that's the problem,it's the bags of rubbish that break open,spread everywhere and remain there for years.
    The pay by weight granted is madness.


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    #46
    uch
    Registered Users Posts: 7,008 ✭✭✭uch


    pickarooney wrote: »
    You have to pay to recycle and use the rubbish tip in Ireland? That's nuts. Would free rubbish tips not be a good deterrant to fly tipping?
    Probably not actually, the kind of cünt that does that presumably enjoys it.

    To be honest, landfill is a bad idea, and nobody in this country wants to live within 25 miles of a landfill tip

    21/25



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    #47
    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    seamus wrote: »
    So John registers with a bin collection company. But he never puts the bins out because he dumps his bags in the mountains.

    However, the bin collection company are getting peed off. They keep sending a truck to John's house but there's nothing there. So instead they introduce a registration charge which doubles as an account credit. You pay them €60 at the start of the year and then they deduct the cost of collections from that €60.

    John of course now reckons, fnck it, he's paying anyway, so why not just put the bins out instead of going to the hassle of driving them up the mountains in the dark twice a week?

    So what happens to Jane next door who is a little vegan hippy. Lives on nothing but lentils and throws the leftovers on her little compost heap. She pays 60 quid and literally puts nothing out. Does she get a refund ay the end of the year?

    And with John....he's stumped up 60 quid too, but this slob generates tons of rubbish. 10 bags a week what with all his beer cans, pizza boxes, curry cartons, newspapers for him and his slob family. He'll still dump the sh1t in the mountains if he determines he'll have burnt through his 60 quid deposit in the first fortnight and will then be getting charged 100 a month for his waste....no?


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    #48
    henryporter
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    mansize wrote: »
    You can't put mattresses in regular waste anyway. Most companies will take away your old one when you buy a new one

    There's a charity somewhere in Dublin that recycles them entirely.

    On another note I lived for years beside a family of 5 adults who burned all their rubbish beside a river - scumbags never had a bin. Had Sky TV though :confused:


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    #49
    HensVassal
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    Jayop wrote: »
    You pay to have bottles removed??

    Why?

    Can you just throw your bottles in a bag and leave them in the street?


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    #50
    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    pickarooney wrote: »
    You have to pay to recycle and use the rubbish tip in Ireland? That's nuts. Would free rubbish tips not be a good deterrant to fly tipping?
    Probably not actually, the kind of cünt that does that presumably enjoys it.

    I think (could be wrong) that you can go to the dump in NI and dispose of your own waste but that's because the waste disposal is included n council rates.


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    #51
    Jayop
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    HensVassal wrote: »
    Can you just throw your bottles in a bag and leave them in the street?

    No but you can take them to a bottle bank and throw them in that. Costs nothing and the money goes towards charities.

    Surely you're aware of the existence of bottle banks??


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    #52
    screamer
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    So another bill for householders and more money for the greedvernment. A bin.is a lot dearer than going to the council collection points especially in rural areas. Last time we had one it was 35 Euro a month.
    This pay per weight will encourage fly tipping and BS to bring fines if caught. I remember a case where someone was seen dumping 13 bags of rubbish over a bridge. Person took their number plate and reported it to gardai. Court case where registered owner said it wasn't me someone stole/ took my vehicle........and got away with it.


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    #53
    mansize
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    HensVassal wrote: »
    Can you just throw your bottles in a bag and leave them in the street?

    you bring them (glass) to a bottle bank.

    Plastic go in your recycling bin.

    Countries like Germany charge a surcharge on bottles thats returned to the customer when they bring back the empty bottles.


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    #54
    Jayop
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    uch wrote: »
    To be honest, landfill is a bad idea, and nobody in this country wants to live within 25 miles of a landfill tip

    I drive past the one in Cavan every so often and the smell of it some days would knock an ass.


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    #55
    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,414 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    henryporter wrote: »
    There's a charity somewhere in Dublin that recycles them entirely.

    On another note I lived for years beside a family of 5 adults who burned all their rubbish beside a river - scumbags never had a bin. Had Sky TV though :confused:


    At least they burned it and not just **** it in like I've seen elsewhere.


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    #56
    henryporter
    Registered Users Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    Jayop wrote: »
    No but you can take them to a bottle bank and throw them in that. Costs nothing and the money goes towards charities.

    Surely you're aware of the existence of bottle banks??

    They're too busy sitting on the porch in their string vest playing the banjo to know what a bottle bank is...


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    #57
    maudgonner
    Registered Users Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    seamus wrote: »
    So John registers with a bin collection company. But he never puts the bins out because he dumps his bags in the mountains.

    However, the bin collection company are getting peed off. They keep sending a truck to John's house but there's nothing there. So instead they introduce a registration charge which doubles as an account credit. You pay them €60 at the start of the year and then they deduct the cost of collections from that €60.

    John of course now reckons, fnck it, he's paying anyway, so why not just put the bins out instead of going to the hassle of driving them up the mountains in the dark twice a week?


    If John generated €5 worth of rubbish per week, let's say, then that only works for the first 12 weeks. After that, the incentive is still there to dump illegally.

    And if you keep increasing the standing charge to counteract that, then it completely negates the pay-by-weight principle.


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    #58
    mansize
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    screamer wrote: »
    So another bill for householders and more money for the greedvernment. A bin.is a lot dearer than going to the council collection points especially in rural areas. Last time we had one it was 35 Euro a month.
    This pay per weight will encourage fly tipping and BS to bring fines if caught. I remember a case where someone was seen dumping 13 bags of rubbish over a bridge. Person took their number plate and reported it to gardai. Court case where registered owner said it wasn't me someone stole/ took my vehicle........and got away with it.

    Most households pay for waste disposal anyway, so its not another charge, its just ensuring that people are correctly disposing of their rubbish.

    I don't see the problem.

    Pay by weight is to get you to recycle more.


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    #59
    mansize
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    maudgonner wrote: »
    If John generated €5 worth of rubbish per week, let's say, then that only works for the first 12 weeks. After that, the incentive is still there to dump illegally.

    And if you keep increasing the standing charge to counteract that, then it completely negates the pay-by-weight principle.

    Pay by weight doesn't include recycling afaik.

    Large fines will deter illegal dumpers. Some would be dumping illegally anyway.


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    #60
    screamer
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    I think ill be using the bin at the back of the checkouts to remove all the unnecessary packaging from my shopping. That's the real problem there's just waaay to much unnecessary packaging from manufacturers.


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    #61
    henryporter
    Registered Users Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭henryporter


    screamer wrote: »
    So another bill for householders and more money for the greedvernment. A bin.is a lot dearer than going to the council collection points especially in rural areas. Last time we had one it was 35 Euro a month.
    This pay per weight will encourage fly tipping and BS to bring fines if caught. I remember a case where someone was seen dumping 13 bags of rubbish over a bridge. Person took their number plate and reported it to gardai. Court case where registered owner said it wasn't me someone stole/ took my vehicle........and got away with it.

    You have heard of the 'Polluter pays' idea - if it's your rubbish why should others who can afford to pay more have to pay, just because others like to hide behind 'socialist' beliefs and not bother their backsides to pay for anything they use/consume/pollute?


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