All households must be registered with a licensed waste collector by July 1

I wear socks

How enforced will this law be ?

Irish Halo

Very, capital punishment is expected to be reintroduced ...

seamus

Well it's very easy to enforce. All operators provide a list or properties they collect waste from. Unregistered properties are identified and sent a notice warning them of their requirement to register with a waste provider.

Check again 3 months later, still no registration, another warning. 3 months later it turns into a court summons.

Conall Cernach

What's the reasoning behind this?

mansize

So people aren't fly tipping and correctly disposing of their waste as per EU requirements

Robxxx7

What if people dispose of their household rubbish at one of the council waste transfer station ?

The Randy Riverbeast

How will this work in cities? Many people use those bags you buy for 4-5 euro and leave them out to be collected.

I wear socks

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

How will this work in cities? Many people use those bags you buy for 4-5 euro and leave them out to be collected.

The bags are being discontinued

NinetyForNone

Can I get a Link to the details?

Bio Mech

What a load of rubbish. I refuse to sign up to this garbage.

maudgonner

mansize wrote: »

So people aren't fly tipping and correctly disposing of their waste as per EU requirements

I don't know if it will stop fly tipping though. Isn't pay-by-weight becoming mandatory? That means there will still be plenty of incentive for arseholes to throw their rubbish wherever they please to save a few quid.

leakyboots

This is bull if they bring this in.

I'd say we recycle more than most houses - we recycle EVERYTHING - paper, plastic, glass, cardboard, batteries, electronics, broken cutlery, scrap metals... at our local recycling centre for a fiver a pop. We used to be able to recycle our plastics at a bottle drop on the street but they took away the plastics bin because... people were using it too much... (only in Ireland would they penalise you for this) and they wanted people to go to the recycling centre and pay their fiver.

Our 'dirty' bin of food goes a Mr Binman pay-as-you-go thingy at a petrol station, we wait til our wheelie bin (old spare one from home) is full and we bring it - I'd say we've spent 80-100e on bins in nearly 3 years.

They can f**k off if they think I'm playing Mr Binman €250+ a year

Jayop

maudgonner wrote: »

I don't know if it will stop fly tipping though. Isn't pay-by-weight becoming mandatory? That means there will still be plenty of incentive for arseholes to throw their rubbish wherever they please to save a few quid.

Pay by weight is a nightmare. I'd guess that half the weight of our bin comes from ashes out of the fire.

ED E

Conall Cernach wrote: »

What's the reasoning behind this?

Have a look at county wicklow, theres your answer.

Speedwell

Jayop wrote: »

Pay by weight is a nightmare. I'd guess that half the weight of our bin comes from ashes out of the fire.

And the other half of ours comes from cat litter.

xabi

Robxxx7 wrote: »

What if people dispose of their household rubbish at one of the council waste transfer station ?

I remember reading that you have to prove that you have disposed of the waste, if you don't have a collector.

Jayop

Speedwell wrote: »

And the other half of ours comes from cat litter.

Yikes!! Yeah my dirty bin is emptied once a fortnight and it weighs an absolute tonne and that's without me stuffing it or squashing the stuff down. We clearly just have heavy rubbish!

I don't disagree with the sentiment of the OP having people registered or proving where they dump legally as some of the road sides are a disgrace with scummy people dumping their crap, but pay by weight just seems an unreasonable punishment to those doing it legally. There's no way it'll get cheaper and I'm already paying around €350 a year in Sligo.

seamus

xabi wrote: »

I remember reading that you have to prove that you have disposed of the waste, if you don't have a collector.

Yep. Just hold onto receipts or whatever from recycling facilities. For food waste/composting you just need to show that you have a composter at home.

Jayop wrote:

Yikes!! Yeah my dirty bin is emptied once a fortnight and it weighs an absolute tonne and that's without me stuffing it or squashing the stuff down. We clearly just have heavy rubbish!

How many people is that? For two adults and one child, we average around 45kg a month, of which around 35% is "dirty" waste. The stuff that goes in compost is actually incredibly heavy by volume.

leakyboots

leakyboots wrote: »

This is bull if they bring this in.

I'd say we recycle more than most houses - we recycle EVERYTHING - paper, plastic, glass, cardboard, batteries, electronics, broken cutlery, scrap metals... at our local recycling centre for a fiver a pop. We used to be able to recycle our plastics at a bottle drop on the street but they took away the plastics bin because... people were using it too much... (only in Ireland would they penalise you for this) and they wanted people to go to the recycling centre and pay their fiver.

Our 'dirty' bin of food goes a Mr Binman pay-as-you-go thingy at a petrol station, we wait til our wheelie bin (old spare one from home) is full and we bring it - I'd say we've spent 80-100e on bins in nearly 3 years.

They can f**k off if they think I'm playing Mr Binman €250+ a year

I imagine you will be find as long as you have a recite for the recycling. We are big recyclers as well and only put the out once a month or less and even then its not full. We have a system of pay per life the less lifts you use the less you pay it a good system as it encourages recycling.

HensVassal

mansize wrote: »

So people aren't fly tipping and correctly disposing of their waste as per EU requirements

Oh bollox.....another layer in the control net and as usual the apologists fall for the fabricated resoning.

Is it illegal for me to dispose of my rubbish by driving to a tip and dumping it there?

Jayop

mariaalice wrote: »

I imagine you will be find as long as you have a recite for the recycling. We are big recyclers as well and only put the out once a month or less and even then its not full. We have a system of pay per life the less lifts you use the less you pay it a good system as it encourages recycling.

Pay by lift I have no issue with. Pay by weight on the other hand Grrrr!!

HensVassal

mansize wrote: »

So people aren't fly tipping and correctly disposing of their waste as per EU requirements

And how pray tell will this stop someone fly tipping?
I'm curious to know.

seamus

HensVassal wrote: »

Is it illegal for me to dispose of my rubbish by driving to a tip and dumping it there?

No, but it's expensive.

There are no free public tips any more.

mansize

HensVassal wrote: »

And how pray tell will this stop someone fly tipping?
I'm curious to know.

No receipt for waste disposal equals fine

If you use a composter and recycle everything it is possible to nearly get rid of all the waste with out punting it in a bin, cooked food scraps and non recycle packaging is the big issue.

Jayop

HensVassal wrote: »

And how pray tell will this stop someone fly tipping?
I'm curious to know.

Why would they fly tip if they are paying for rubbish collection?

HensVassal

mansize wrote: »

No receipt for waste disposal equals fine

What are you on about? A guy drives out along a country road, dumps an old mattress in a ditch and drives off. That's fly-tipping. What's receipts got to do with anything?

kneemos

maudgonner wrote: »

I don't know if it will stop fly tipping though. Isn't pay-by-weight becoming mandatory? That means there will still be plenty of incentive for arseholes to throw their rubbish wherever they please to save a few quid.

I know Wexford Co Co and probably others have officially objected to the idea of pay by weight.
It's another one of these schemes that everyone knows is madness but will go ahead anyway.

mansize

HensVassal wrote: »

What are you on about? A guy drives out along a country road, dumps an old mattress in a ditch and drives off. That's fly-tipping. What's receipts got to do with anything?

You have to seen to disposing of your rubbish correctly

HensVassal

Jayop wrote: »

Why would they fly tip if they are paying for rubbish collection?

To dump crap that they would pay extra for to have collected?

mansize

Speedwell wrote: »

And the other half of ours comes from cat litter.

Shouldn't that be in the compost bin?

HensVassal

mansize wrote: »

You have to seen to disposing of your rubbish correctly

Am I fcuking alone in the world here? How is this going to stop people illegally dumping stuff. Unless everyone pays a flat fee for garbage disposal even if they never put a bin on the street.

mansize

HensVassal wrote: »

Am I fcuking alone in the world here? How is this going to stop people illegally dumping stuff. Unless everyone pays a flat fee for garbage disposal even if they never put a bin on the street.

If you are caught you are fined. Why is this so difficult for people???

I live alone, I pay for bins that are usually only 1/2 full.

mansize

mansize wrote: »

Shouldn't that be in the compost bin?

You cant out cat litter in the compost bin

mansize

You can't put mattresses in regular waste anyway. Most companies will take away your old one when you buy a new one

seamus

HensVassal wrote: »

Am I fcuking alone in the world here? How is this going to stop people illegally dumping stuff. Unless everyone pays a flat fee for garbage disposal even if they never put a bin on the street.

So John registers with a bin collection company. But he never puts the bins out because he dumps his bags in the mountains.

However, the bin collection company are getting peed off. They keep sending a truck to John's house but there's nothing there. So instead they introduce a registration charge which doubles as an account credit. You pay them €60 at the start of the year and then they deduct the cost of collections from that €60.

John of course now reckons, fnck it, he's paying anyway, so why not just put the bins out instead of going to the hassle of driving them up the mountains in the dark twice a week?

neacy69

seamus wrote: »

So John registers with a bin collection company. But he never puts the bins out because he dumps his bags in the mountains.

However, the bin collection company are getting peed off. They keep sending a truck to John's house but there's nothing there. So instead they introduce a registration charge which doubles as an account credit. You pay them €60 at the start of the year and then they deduct the cost of collections from that €60.

John of course now reckons, fnck it, he's paying anyway, so why not just put the bins out instead of going to the hassle of driving them up the mountains in the dark twice a week?

John also pays by weight so fly tips any big/heavy stuff

HensVassal

mansize wrote: »

If you are caught you are fined. Why is this so difficult for people???

I live alone, I pay for bins that are usually only 1/2 full.

You have always been fined if you are caught for illegal dumping. This is just another money grubbing scam under the guise of protecting the environment. The Irish are such suckers. Back in the day there was an incentive to return your bottles. You got 5p back for them. Then some schmuck scrapped that program while some other schmuck decided "hey, how about I generate loads of money by charging the public idiots to take their bottles? Ka-ching!"

Complete scam and the Irish just never learn.

mansize

mariaalice wrote: »

You cant out cat litter in the compost bin

Goodl to know. I didn't have a compost bin so it went in the waste bin anyway

joeysoap

If two neighbours share a bin is that now going to be illegal? If your children, living nearby use your bin is that now going to be illegal. Are they saying two neighbours must register and the second set of bins sits unused. What if my son registers and just stores the bins without actually using them? No fcuking wonder that labour minister was classed as a tosser by everybody (Delaney excepted)

Jayop

HensVassal wrote: »

You have always been fined if you are caught for illegal dumping. This is just another money grubbing scam under the guise of protecting the environment. The Irish are such suckers. Back in the day there was an incentive to return your bottles. You got 5p back for them. Then some schmuck scrapped that program while some other schmuck decided "hey, how about I generate loads of money by charging the public idiots to take their bottles? Ka-ching!"

Complete scam and the Irish just never learn.

You pay to have bottles removed??

Why?

mansize

joeysoap wrote: »

If two neighbours share a bin is that now going to be illegal? If your children, living nearby use your bin is that now going to be illegal. Are they saying two neighbours must register and the second set of bins sits unused. What if my son registers and just stores the bins without actually using them? No fcuking wonder that labour minister was classed as a tossed by everybody (ok Delaney excepted)

I'm sure that can be explained

pickarooney

You have to pay to recycle and use the rubbish tip in Ireland? That's nuts. Would free rubbish tips not be a good deterrant to fly tipping?
Probably not actually, the kind of cünt that does that presumably enjoys it.

mansize

pickarooney wrote: »

You have to pay to recycle and use the rubbish tip in Ireland? That's nuts. Would free rubbish tips not be a good deterrant to fly tipping?
Probably not actually, the kind of cünt that does that presumably enjoys it.

We don't pay the same rates of council tax as the UK so waste is paid for separately

kneemos

neacy69 wrote: »

John also pays by weight so fly tips any big/heavy stuff

It's not the big heavy stuff that's the problem,it's the bags of rubbish that break open,spread everywhere and remain there for years.
The pay by weight granted is madness.

uch

pickarooney wrote: »

You have to pay to recycle and use the rubbish tip in Ireland? That's nuts. Would free rubbish tips not be a good deterrant to fly tipping?
Probably not actually, the kind of cünt that does that presumably enjoys it.

To be honest, landfill is a bad idea, and nobody in this country wants to live within 25 miles of a landfill tip

HensVassal

seamus wrote: »

So John registers with a bin collection company. But he never puts the bins out because he dumps his bags in the mountains.

However, the bin collection company are getting peed off. They keep sending a truck to John's house but there's nothing there. So instead they introduce a registration charge which doubles as an account credit. You pay them €60 at the start of the year and then they deduct the cost of collections from that €60.

John of course now reckons, fnck it, he's paying anyway, so why not just put the bins out instead of going to the hassle of driving them up the mountains in the dark twice a week?

So what happens to Jane next door who is a little vegan hippy. Lives on nothing but lentils and throws the leftovers on her little compost heap. She pays 60 quid and literally puts nothing out. Does she get a refund ay the end of the year?

And with John....he's stumped up 60 quid too, but this slob generates tons of rubbish. 10 bags a week what with all his beer cans, pizza boxes, curry cartons, newspapers for him and his slob family. He'll still dump the sh1t in the mountains if he determines he'll have burnt through his 60 quid deposit in the first fortnight and will then be getting charged 100 a month for his waste....no?

henryporter

mansize wrote: »

You can't put mattresses in regular waste anyway. Most companies will take away your old one when you buy a new one

There's a charity somewhere in Dublin that recycles them entirely.

On another note I lived for years beside a family of 5 adults who burned all their rubbish beside a river - scumbags never had a bin. Had Sky TV though

HensVassal

Jayop wrote: »

You pay to have bottles removed??

Why?

Can you just throw your bottles in a bag and leave them in the street?

Jayop

pickarooney wrote: »

You have to pay to recycle and use the rubbish tip in Ireland? That's nuts. Would free rubbish tips not be a good deterrant to fly tipping?
Probably not actually, the kind of cünt that does that presumably enjoys it.

I think (could be wrong) that you can go to the dump in NI and dispose of your own waste but that's because the waste disposal is included n council rates.

Jayop

HensVassal wrote: »

Can you just throw your bottles in a bag and leave them in the street?

No but you can take them to a bottle bank and throw them in that. Costs nothing and the money goes towards charities.

Surely you're aware of the existence of bottle banks??