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All households must be registered with a licensed waste collector by July 1

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  • 14-04-2016 2:12pm
    #1
    I wear socks
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    How enforced will this law be ?


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    #2
    Irish Halo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,429 ✭✭✭Irish Halo


    Very, capital punishment is expected to be reintroduced ...


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    #3
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Well it's very easy to enforce. All operators provide a list or properties they collect waste from. Unregistered properties are identified and sent a notice warning them of their requirement to register with a waste provider.

    Check again 3 months later, still no registration, another warning. 3 months later it turns into a court summons.


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    Conall Cernach
    Registered Users Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    What's the reasoning behind this?


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    #5
    mansize
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    So people aren't fly tipping and correctly disposing of their waste as per EU requirements


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    Robxxx7
    Registered Users Posts: 1,237 ✭✭✭Robxxx7


    What if people dispose of their household rubbish at one of the council waste transfer station ?


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    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    How will this work in cities? Many people use those bags you buy for 4-5 euro and leave them out to be collected.


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    #8
    I wear socks
    Closed Accounts Posts: 82 ✭✭I wear socks


    The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »
    How will this work in cities? Many people use those bags you buy for 4-5 euro and leave them out to be collected.

    The bags are being discontinued


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    NinetyForNone
    Registered Users Posts: 360 ✭✭NinetyForNone


    Can I get a Link to the details?


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    #10
    Bio Mech
    Registered Users Posts: 1,043 ✭✭✭Bio Mech


    What a load of rubbish. I refuse to sign up to this garbage.


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    maudgonner
    Registered Users Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭maudgonner


    mansize wrote: »
    So people aren't fly tipping and correctly disposing of their waste as per EU requirements


    I don't know if it will stop fly tipping though. Isn't pay-by-weight becoming mandatory? That means there will still be plenty of incentive for arseholes to throw their rubbish wherever they please to save a few quid.


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    leakyboots
    Registered Users Posts: 5,964 ✭✭✭leakyboots


    This is bull if they bring this in.

    I'd say we recycle more than most houses - we recycle EVERYTHING - paper, plastic, glass, cardboard, batteries, electronics, broken cutlery, scrap metals... at our local recycling centre for a fiver a pop. We used to be able to recycle our plastics at a bottle drop on the street but they took away the plastics bin because... people were using it too much... (only in Ireland would they penalise you for this) and they wanted people to go to the recycling centre and pay their fiver.

    Our 'dirty' bin of food goes a Mr Binman pay-as-you-go thingy at a petrol station, we wait til our wheelie bin (old spare one from home) is full and we bring it - I'd say we've spent 80-100e on bins in nearly 3 years.

    They can f**k off if they think I'm playing Mr Binman €250+ a year


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    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    maudgonner wrote: »
    I don't know if it will stop fly tipping though. Isn't pay-by-weight becoming mandatory? That means there will still be plenty of incentive for arseholes to throw their rubbish wherever they please to save a few quid.

    Pay by weight is a nightmare. I'd guess that half the weight of our bin comes from ashes out of the fire.


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    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Conall Cernach wrote: »
    What's the reasoning behind this?

    Have a look at county wicklow, theres your answer.


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    Speedwell
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    Jayop wrote: »
    Pay by weight is a nightmare. I'd guess that half the weight of our bin comes from ashes out of the fire.

    And the other half of ours comes from cat litter.


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    xabi
    Registered Users Posts: 2,997 ✭✭✭xabi


    Robxxx7 wrote: »
    What if people dispose of their household rubbish at one of the council waste transfer station ?

    I remember reading that you have to prove that you have disposed of the waste, if you don't have a collector.


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    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    Speedwell wrote: »
    And the other half of ours comes from cat litter.

    Yikes!! Yeah my dirty bin is emptied once a fortnight and it weighs an absolute tonne and that's without me stuffing it or squashing the stuff down. We clearly just have heavy rubbish! :confused:

    I don't disagree with the sentiment of the OP having people registered or proving where they dump legally as some of the road sides are a disgrace with scummy people dumping their crap, but pay by weight just seems an unreasonable punishment to those doing it legally. There's no way it'll get cheaper and I'm already paying around €350 a year in Sligo.


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    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    xabi wrote: »
    I remember reading that you have to prove that you have disposed of the waste, if you don't have a collector.

    Yep. Just hold onto receipts or whatever from recycling facilities. For food waste/composting you just need to show that you have a composter at home.
    Jayop wrote:
    Yikes!! Yeah my dirty bin is emptied once a fortnight and it weighs an absolute tonne and that's without me stuffing it or squashing the stuff down. We clearly just have heavy rubbish!
    How many people is that? For two adults and one child, we average around 45kg a month, of which around 35% is "dirty" waste. The stuff that goes in compost is actually incredibly heavy by volume.


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    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,412 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    leakyboots wrote: »
    This is bull if they bring this in.

    I'd say we recycle more than most houses - we recycle EVERYTHING - paper, plastic, glass, cardboard, batteries, electronics, broken cutlery, scrap metals... at our local recycling centre for a fiver a pop. We used to be able to recycle our plastics at a bottle drop on the street but they took away the plastics bin because... people were using it too much... (only in Ireland would they penalise you for this) and they wanted people to go to the recycling centre and pay their fiver.

    Our 'dirty' bin of food goes a Mr Binman pay-as-you-go thingy at a petrol station, we wait til our wheelie bin (old spare one from home) is full and we bring it - I'd say we've spent 80-100e on bins in nearly 3 years.

    They can f**k off if they think I'm playing Mr Binman €250+ a year

    I imagine you will be find as long as you have a recite for the recycling. We are big recyclers as well and only put the out once a month or less and even then its not full. We have a system of pay per life the less lifts you use the less you pay it a good system as it encourages recycling.


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    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    mansize wrote: »
    So people aren't fly tipping and correctly disposing of their waste as per EU requirements

    Oh bollox.....another layer in the control net and as usual the apologists fall for the fabricated resoning.

    Is it illegal for me to dispose of my rubbish by driving to a tip and dumping it there?


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    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    mariaalice wrote: »
    I imagine you will be find as long as you have a recite for the recycling. We are big recyclers as well and only put the out once a month or less and even then its not full. We have a system of pay per life the less lifts you use the less you pay it a good system as it encourages recycling.

    Pay by lift I have no issue with. Pay by weight on the other hand Grrrr!!


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    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    mansize wrote: »
    So people aren't fly tipping and correctly disposing of their waste as per EU requirements

    And how pray tell will this stop someone fly tipping?
    I'm curious to know.


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    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    HensVassal wrote: »
    Is it illegal for me to dispose of my rubbish by driving to a tip and dumping it there?
    No, but it's expensive.

    There are no free public tips any more.


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    mansize
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    HensVassal wrote: »
    And how pray tell will this stop someone fly tipping?
    I'm curious to know.

    No receipt for waste disposal equals fine


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    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,412 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    If you use a composter and recycle everything it is possible to nearly get rid of all the waste with out punting it in a bin, cooked food scraps and non recycle packaging is the big issue.


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    Jayop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,388 ✭✭✭✭Jayop


    HensVassal wrote: »
    And how pray tell will this stop someone fly tipping?
    I'm curious to know.

    Why would they fly tip if they are paying for rubbish collection?


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    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    mansize wrote: »
    No receipt for waste disposal equals fine

    What are you on about? A guy drives out along a country road, dumps an old mattress in a ditch and drives off. That's fly-tipping. What's receipts got to do with anything?


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    kneemos
    Registered Users Posts: 20,419 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    maudgonner wrote: »
    I don't know if it will stop fly tipping though. Isn't pay-by-weight becoming mandatory? That means there will still be plenty of incentive for arseholes to throw their rubbish wherever they please to save a few quid.


    I know Wexford Co Co and probably others have officially objected to the idea of pay by weight.
    It's another one of these schemes that everyone knows is madness but will go ahead anyway.


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    #29
    mansize
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    HensVassal wrote: »
    What are you on about? A guy drives out along a country road, dumps an old mattress in a ditch and drives off. That's fly-tipping. What's receipts got to do with anything?

    You have to seen to disposing of your rubbish correctly


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    HensVassal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭HensVassal


    Jayop wrote: »
    Why would they fly tip if they are paying for rubbish collection?

    To dump crap that they would pay extra for to have collected?


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    mansize
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,521 ✭✭✭✭mansize


    Speedwell wrote: »
    And the other half of ours comes from cat litter.

    Shouldn't that be in the compost bin?


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