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Guards deny innocent woman her malteasers

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    #152
    melissak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭melissak


    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    It's not that impossible. If the guy in question has previous form for attacking or being volatile, or such an attack wouldn't be outside the realms of possibility, the guards family has been threathened and while the people the scumbag has identified may not exist, there has been a threat made and there probably is people that threat extends to. Ie, girlfriend, parents.
    Add your reply here.
    Someone said if he didn't have a family etc. Just hypothetically.


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    #153
    dodzy
    Registered Users Posts: 9,933 ✭✭✭dodzy


    1:37 - just as the scummer is threatening the family of the guard, his aul man says "shurrup Bottle will ya!". You could not make this sh1t up.


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    #154
    qo2cj1dsne8y4k
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    Why do you start all your posts with "add your reply here."?
    He might not have a wife, he probably has a girlfriend.
    Just because there's no ring on her finger, does that mean she's fair game?


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    #155
    melissak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭melissak


    LexieOnRale wrote: »
    Why do you start all your posts with "add your reply here."?
    He might not have a wife, he probably has a girlfriend.
    Just because there's no ring on her finger, does that mean she's fair game?
    Add your reply here.
    I don't know, my phone is possessed.


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    #156
    Satriale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,023 ✭✭✭Satriale


    No need for violence, but if someone is going to act like an animal they need to treated like one. Spit masks, copious cable ties restrained belly down in the back of the squad. When they aren't executing people, the American cops have it fairly right.


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    #157
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Deleted User wrote: »
    The section quoted requires that the victim "believes (the threat) will be carried out". The Judge has to consider the mind of the victim.

    That's not the wording. The legislation states that the intent is that the threat be believed.


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    #158
    AnMuinteoirOg
    Registered Users Posts: 121 ✭✭AnMuinteoirOg


    5.—(1) A person who, without lawful excuse, makes to another a threat, by any means intending the other to believe it will be carried out, to kill or cause serious harm to that other or a third person shall be guilty of an offence

    Section 5 of the Non-Fatal Offences against the Persons Act, 1997


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    #159
    esforum
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ability to carry out the threat immediately, the proximity of time or geography, is one of the constituent elements of an assault,

    Where did ya get that? Theres no requirement for any of that in the act.

    If someone makes a threat and they are criminals who do or have or are in the process of being violent, its reasonable to take the threat with some degree of belief, Gardai do get followed home, their homes and cars do get attacked, their wives / etc do get approached


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    #160
    [Deleted User]
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    esforum wrote: »
    Where did ya get that? Theres no requirement for any of that in the act...

    It is a fundamental aspect of assault that the person believes s/he is likely to be immediately subjected to force. Section 2(1)(b)...

    www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1997/act/26/section/2/enacted/en/html


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    #161
    melissak
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,873 ✭✭✭melissak


    esforum wrote: »
    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ability to carry out the threat immediately, the proximity of time or geography, is one of the constituent elements of an assault,

    Where did ya get that? Theres no requirement for any of that in the act.

    If someone makes a threat and they are criminals who do or have or are in the process of being violent, its reasonable to take the threat with some degree of belief, Gardai do get followed home, their homes and cars do get attacked, their wives / etc do get approached
    Add your reply here.
    Does that happen often?


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    #162
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    melissak wrote: »
    Add your reply here.
    Does that happen often?

    Often enough it should be taken more seriously.


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    #163
    Billy86
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    kupus wrote: »
    he wont, he'll be a raging cnut for everybody around him till the day he drops dead from a heart attack.

    welcome to liberal ireland where fookdogs like this scummer is laughing all the way to his dole money that you provide him with.

    And no amount of courses and all that boll0x is going to save him and the others around him.

    Imagine what his kids are going to be like..... just remember its your kids that will be meeting his. While you congratulate yourself on how you raised your liberal child to be a person thats tolerant and and all those other other warm fuzzy words youre proud of,
    this guys kids will be shooting your kid in the back.

    thats evolution.
    Strange then, that so many of the worlds safest countries are also among the most liberal.


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    #164
    InReality
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    That has genuinely shocked me. I knew i was pretty naive about what real scum were like, but the hatred in his voice and overall weirdness was scary.


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    #165
    esforum
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    Strange then, that so many of the worlds safest countries are also among the most liberal.

    thats like saying that gyms are bad for your weight cause they are full of fat people

    Where are these nations? I am sure you are right in many regards but so too are many nations not so liberal relatively safe


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    #166
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    InReality wrote: »
    That has genuinely shocked me. I knew i was pretty naive about what real scum were like, but the hatred in his voice and overall weirdness was scary.

    Real scum are just real scum, and while I might argue that you can't be prosecuted for just being a scumbag, I do think there is something to be said for trusting a police force enough to allow them to draw a baton every now and again and crack the head off a scumbag. In this country, sadly, that was abused by Gardai to draw confessions out of people in very serious cases in the 70s and 80s with the result that now we do not tolerate it at all. But every now and again, as in a situation like this, you'd think it just might be justified.


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    #167
    kupus
    Registered Users Posts: 4,151 ✭✭✭kupus


    Billy86 wrote: »
    Strange then, that so many of the worlds safest countries are also among the most liberal.


    Just because you hear on pravda rte that ireland is safe doesnt mean its so.

    I worked in some neighbourhoods that make the worst irish one look like eurodisney. never had any bother barr once or twice.. maybe three.
    on the other hand I can walk down any town centre in ireland and get aggro anytime I want, day or night.

    If you consider yourself liberal I would ask you to instead of opening your mind.... Ill ask you to instead open your eyes.

    countries from what I have noticed in my years have a habit of bigging themselves up thru their national mouthpiece, be it radio or newspaper.

    As far as im concerned if someguy in front of me was patting himself on the back every time he got a question right...id think he was an idiot.
    Same goes for a country. If Ireland keeps patting itself on the back for getting a question right, id think its an idiot. Id have more respect for it, if it asked the hard questions instead of answering the easy starter questions.


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    #168
    blinding
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    kupus wrote: »
    Just because you hear on pravda rte that ireland is safe doesnt mean its so.

    I worked in some neighbourhoods that make the worst irish one look like eurodisney. never had any bother barr once or twice.. maybe three.
    on the other hand I can walk down any town centre in ireland and get aggro anytime I want, day or night.

    If you consider yourself liberal I would ask you to instead of opening your mind.... Ill ask you to instead open your eyes.

    countries from what I have noticed in my years have a habit of bigging themselves up thru their national mouthpiece, be it radio or newspaper.

    As far as im concerned if someguy in front of me was patting himself on the back every time he got a question right...id think he was an idiot.
    Same goes for a country. If Ireland keeps patting itself on the back for getting a question right, id think its an idiot. Id have more respect for it, if it asked the hard questions instead of answering the easy starter questions.
    Good thinking.


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    #169
    Cienciano
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    This summer would probably shout "police brutally" if he was touched


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    #170
    Mesrine65
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Real scum are just real scum, and while I might argue that you can't be prosecuted for just being a scumbag, I do think there is something to be said for trusting a police force enough to allow them to draw a baton every now and again and crack the head off a scumbag. In this country, sadly, that was abused by Gardai to draw confessions out of people in very serious cases in the 70s and 80s with the result that now we do not tolerate it at all. But every now and again, as in a situation like this, you'd think it just might be justified.
    Pity the same treatment isn't applied to our corrupt politicians/bankers et al...

    Suited & booted, marbles in the mouth scumbags at the other end of the spectrum, after all, real scum are just real scum.


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    #171
    Allinall
    Registered Users Posts: 6,571 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    Pity the same treatment isn't applied to our corrupt politicians/bankers et al...

    Suited & booted, marbles in the mouth scumbags at the other end of the spectrum, after all, real scum are just real scum.

    Never heard of a politician threatening a guards family.

    Have you?


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    #172
    galljga1
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    kupus wrote: »
    Just because you hear on pravda rte that ireland is safe doesnt mean its so.

    I worked in some neighbourhoods that make the worst irish one look like eurodisney. never had any bother barr once or twice.. maybe three.
    on the other hand I can walk down any town centre in ireland and get aggro anytime I want, day or night.

    If you consider yourself liberal I would ask you to instead of opening your mind.... Ill ask you to instead open your eyes.

    countries from what I have noticed in my years have a habit of bigging themselves up thru their national mouthpiece, be it radio or newspaper.

    As far as im concerned if someguy in front of me was patting himself on the back every time he got a question right...id think he was an idiot.
    Same goes for a country. If Ireland keeps patting itself on the back for getting a question right, id think its an idiot. Id have more respect for it, if it asked the hard questions instead of answering the easy starter questions.

    I must have led a very sheltered life. I have never encountered any aggression in any town in Ireland during the day and only rarely during the night.


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    #173
    Samaris
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    ANY town centre would seem to be kinda hyberbolic which rather detracts from your argument. I've walked across Cork city at night alone (including through the nearer northside) multiple times as a young female and not had an issue. On the other hand, I got shoved over and had a lewd comment made to me by a gang of older men in the tiny country town of Kenmare, Co. Kerry. Don't ask me what that proves. Just that anywhere can have assholes and in general, our cities aren't as bad as you're making out.


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    #174
    Mesrine65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    Allinall wrote: »
    Never heard of a politician threatening a guards family.

    Have you?
    No actually, thank you for your input :rolleyes: :P


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    #175
    flutered
    Registered Users Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭flutered


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Real scum are just real scum, and while I might argue that you can't be prosecuted for just being a scumbag, I do think there is something to be said for trusting a police force enough to allow them to draw a baton every now and again and crack the head off a scumbag. In this country, sadly, that was abused by Gardai to draw confessions out of people in very serious cases in the 70s and 80s with the result that now we do not tolerate it at all. But every now and again, as in a situation like this, you'd think it just might be justified.
    some of the serious cases you mention were not serious, many the young man had his ribs busted on a gards suspision


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    #176
    flutered
    Registered Users Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭flutered


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    Yep, and Sinn Fein would be defending the "victim" here - poor guy was only buying a box of maltesers.

    Some areas of dublin, they should just sterilise them via the water supply.
    it could well be joe costelloe of the liebour/stickie/dissos who would be defending them


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    #177
    stoplooklisten
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    He deserves a good hiding when he gets in to the cell, DON'T DENY HIM!!


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    #178
    flutered
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    melissak wrote: »
    No way that would fly if the guard doesn't have a wife /family. The victim has to believe the danger, which he couldn't if they were fictional.
    that stuff was being sprouted by the limerick criminals back in the day, they even went as far as to ring the cops houses, outside cops had to be brought in to deal with it


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    #179
    Mesrine65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,969 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    cowboyBuilder wrote: »
    Some areas of dublin, they should just sterilise them via the water supply.
    & that's how it starts...



    PS Godwin before any fucker mentions it :p


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    #180
    stoplooklisten
    Registered Users Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭stoplooklisten


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    & that's how it starts...

    doubt it, more a group like "tallaght says no" paint it on their signs in protest of paying water charges and stand on o'connell street


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    #181
    PopePalpatine
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    Vallorrous wrote: »
    Golden rule for arrest I thought was to keep your mouth shut. You don't answer questions, you don't incriminate yourself, just hand over your licence and insurance documents if asked. I really think that's just common sense.

    Or go out gracefully like this guy:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEsZkTTgydc


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