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Guards deny innocent woman her malteasers

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,400 ✭✭✭me_irl


    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah jayyyysssssssssssssssiiiiisssssssssssssss Joooooooooooeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,810 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    The patience of Job, required for some careers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,530 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    Rumour has it his bird is still waiting on that box of malteasers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,797 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    what have i just listened to??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭CB19Kevo


    That's the reality of what the guards have to deal with in this country,being told that there wife and kids will be raped by this individual.Yet people love to have a go at them for being pulled over for speeding or keeping the peace at water meter protests.

    Glad i don't have to do there job,having to deal with vermin like that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 612 ✭✭✭ForstalDave


    I dont envy them their job what a scumbag


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    CB19Kevo wrote: »
    That's the reality of what the guards have to deal with in this country,being told that there wife and kids will be raped by this individual.Yet people love to have a go at them for being pulled over for speeding or keeping the peace at water meter protests.

    Glad i don't have to do there job,having to deal with vermin like that.
    Try retail security if you think that's bad, you don't have the same powers as AGS but still have to put up with this type of shite from low-lifes every working day & your only back-up is fellow SO's connected to the street radio network.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,797 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Mesrine65 wrote: »
    Try retail security if you think that's bad, you don't have the same powers as AGS but still have to put up with this type of shite from low-lifes every working day & your only back-up is fellow SO's connected to the street radio network.

    but you get to carry a cool radio and say "over" a lot so i'm sure that makes up for the abuse.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,950 ✭✭✭Mesrine65


    but you get to carry a cool radio and say "over" a lot so i'm sure that makes up for the abuse.
    Tell that to the Garda :p


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭blinding


    Frozen Malteasers could be very dangerous on so many levels...Very Dangerous...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    At least the dad has his priorities right. Ombudsman then Sunday World.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    CB19Kevo wrote: »
    That's the reality of what the guards have to deal with in this country,being told that there wife and kids will be raped by this individual.Yet people love to have a go at them for being pulled over for speeding or keeping the peace at water meter protests.

    Glad i don't have to do there job,having to deal with vermin like that.

    It's the reality of shopkeepers, emergency workers, health workers and a whole host of a other people have to deal with without recourse to the protection a garda can avail of.

    They deserve criticism for how they handled the water meter fiasco.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    I used to date a guard, and he used to tell me awful stuff. Things people would say to him or call him. Years ago he was stationed in Dublin at the time and ended up being pushed into a canal. They definately don't get paid enough to be dealing with what they have to deal with


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Vallorrous


    Golden rule for arrest I thought was to keep your mouth shut. You don't answer questions, you don't incriminate yourself, just hand over your licence and insurance documents if asked. I really think that's just common sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    What do they think its going to be like on the streets when they sign up?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Vallorrous


    What do they think its going to be like on the streets when they sign up?:confused:

    Maybe like Robocop:

    Dead or Alive, you're coming with me! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    So what did they expect when they signed up to be a garda, wouldn't like to deal with this day in and day out, but at day 0 you know exactly what to expect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,797 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Vallorrous wrote: »
    Golden rule for arrest I thought was to keep your mouth shut. You don't answer questions, you don't incriminate yourself, just hand over your licence and insurance documents if asked. I really think that's just common sense.

    its not as common as you think. this eejit managed to talk himself into further offences.


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bambi wrote: »
    It's the reality of shopkeepers, emergency workers, health workers and a whole host of a other people have to deal with without recourse to the protection a garda can avail of.

    They deserve criticism for how they handled the water meter fiasco.

    This.
    Do you really expect gardai to refuse to do their job because some people don't want to pay for their utilities?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,045 ✭✭✭✭gramar


    I hope the reason the video ended is because they turned it off, dragged him out of the car and hopped the fcuk out of him.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,978 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    All the way from Dublin to Galway for a bageen of malteesers?
    Suppose if he walked/cycled it he'd have burned enough calories to be able to say "the lighter way to enjoy chocolate"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    What do they think its going to be like on the streets when they sign up?:confused:


    I'd imagine you'd think you're making a difference to society, helping make the streets safer. Instead, you burst yourself arresting scumbags that the dogs on the street know are scumbags, for it to get to court and them to walk out of court after telling a sob story, and a slap on the wrist.

    You don't expect to be pushed into a manky canal, or harrrassed if you go out in the town you're living/working in.


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What do they think its going to be like on the streets when they sign up?:confused:

    To protect life & property.
    To maintain the law of the land.
    Etc etc

    Not sure where ' take dogs abuse & don't do anything back' comes in the job description.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    bubblypop wrote: »
    To protect life & property.
    To maintain the law of the land.
    Etc etc

    Not sure where ' take dogs abuse & don't do anything back' comes in the job description.

    Didn't you ever watch starsky and hutch?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Words fail me for these gutter snipes, around the back of the station out of site of cameras and see who'll rape who (with a batton), that'll learn motormouth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,998 ✭✭✭Paulzx


    What do they think its going to be like on the streets when they sign up?:confused:


    So it's acceptable to tell someone you're going to rape his wife and kids because that's what he signed up for?


    No one expects a copper to spend his day dealing with nicely mannered and polite members of society but you have to draw the line somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,961 ✭✭✭buried


    Looks like Galway Cathedral at the very end of the video

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    JJJJNR wrote: »
    So what did they expect when they signed up to be a garda, wouldn't like to deal with this day in and day out, but at day 0 you know exactly what to expect.

    I know I'd expect equipment tailored for the job, sufficient man power to provide back up, vehicles designed for police work, a legal system that punishes prolific offenders and support systems in place for physical and mental trauma.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    I'd imagine you'd think you're making a difference to society, helping make the streets safer. Instead, you burst yourself arresting scumbags that the dogs on the street know are scumbags, for it to get to court and them to walk out of court after telling a sob story, and a slap on the wrist.

    You don't expect to be pushed into a manky canal, or harrrassed if you go out in the town you're living/working in.

    so why continue doing the job?

    If I felt such dissatisfaction in my employment i would try something else that was more rewarding


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    so why continue doing the job?

    If I felt such dissatisfaction in my employment i would try something else that was more rewarding


    Are you for real? So if they aren't willing to listen to someone threathen to rape their wife and kids then they can't deal with the job?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,520 ✭✭✭allibastor


    simple solution, drown vermin like him and his family.

    Job done, no more welfare for him and his Ilk


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    I know I'd expect equipment tailored for the job, sufficient man power to provide back up, vehicles designed for police work, a legal system that punishes prolific offenders and support systems in place for physical and mental trauma.

    Getting lip service from a scumbag should be expected, the garda handled it very well, and professionally.

    I've put up with the same abuse on public transport when I've had to work late, do I care, no.


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    JJJJNR wrote: »
    Getting lip service from a scumbag should be expected, the garda handled it very well, and professionally.

    I've put up with the same abuse on public transport when I've had to work late, do I care, no.

    Doesnt particularly bother me either.
    The point is however, that it's not OK to threaten anyone or their family.

    Contrary to popular opinion, it's actually not OK to abuse the gardai.
    Is it OK for drunken eejits to abuse a+ e staff?
    Is it OK for gurriers to throw stones at fire brigades?
    No it's not, and I would hope that just because it's common, society doesn't eventually believe that it's part of the job, the way many seem to think it is with gardai.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,779 ✭✭✭✭osarusan


    hard life, drugs, trying to change his life, family who depend on him, very sorry, not actually the vermin he might appear to be, previous 73 convictions were a whole 3 months ago so obviously turning a corner, sorry again, has a half-eaten box of maltesers as an offering of remorse, please let him go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,037 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    bubblypop wrote: »
    Doesnt particularly bother me either.
    The point is however, that it's not OK to threaten anyone or their family.

    Contrary to popular opinion, it's actually not OK to abuse the gardai.
    Is it OK for drunken eejits to abuse a+ e staff?
    Is it OK for gurriers to throw stones at fire brigades?
    No it's not, and I would hope that just because it's common, society doesn't eventually believe that it's part of the job, the way many seem to think it is with gardai.

    Nurses and firemen are not paid to maintain law and order Gardai are and unfortunately people who break the law can act like animals


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    I wouldn't even be arsed being alive if I was your man. "What's the point?" I'd ask myself. "The absolute state of me," I'd continue, "Sure listen to the sh*te I talk, I haven't even a brain in my head."

    Then I'd repeat my refrain; "You're a'thur burstin' me leg!"


  • Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Things like that always make me think that whatever cops are paid, it should be doubled.

    Thank god they do that job, so the rest of us don't have to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭AudreyHepburn


    What do they think its going to be like on the streets when they sign up?:confused:

    I imagine they think it will be tough but that they will have the support of the community they are working and that the people will understand and accept the tough job they do.

    Nowhere does it say that they should expect to be verbally and physically abused and treated like the scum of the earth.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Simon2015


    Bouncers get just as much abuse as gardas if not more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    bubblypop wrote: »
    This.
    Do you really expect gardai to refuse to do their job because some people don't want to pay for their utilities?

    I never realized that sending armed units out to a peaceful protest was part of their remit

    Neither was setting up a checkpoint outside an estate the day after a protest and pulling up any resident who had the temerity to take part to check tax and insurance.

    Or arresting TDs on a public order charge and having a judge laugh the charge out of court

    Unless intimidation is part of their job? :confused:

    The gardai at senior level decided to involve the force in politics as they have in the past and it reflects on them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,480 ✭✭✭Chancer3001


    Police on countries where it's still OK to beat the **** out of scumbags have a much easier life and a lot less scumbags


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    See, this kind of thing is why i have zero problem with the guards tooling someone up if they get the chance. No amount of money makes up for having to deal with that.

    If these scobes knew they'd catch a hammering every time they made a nuisance of themselves then life in our cities would be so much more enjoyable.

    I work in public transport and have to deal with a fair amount of their ilk and they are just worthless people who should be treated as such.

    I don't care about: your "tough" life, your drink/drug problem, how someone looked funny at you when you were 11 so now you hate society. You are a pain in the bollix for literally every single other person on the planet and when i call the cops to remove you i just hope that you attempt to resist. It usually makes me go temporarily blind until you wind up cuffed in the back of the squad car feeling a little worse for wear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,530 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    See, this kind of thing is why i have zero problem with the guards tooling someone up if they get the chance. No amount of money makes up for having to deal with that.

    If these scobes knew they'd catch a hammering every time they made a nuisance of themselves then life in our cities would be so much more enjoyable.

    I work in public transport and have to deal with a fair amount of their ilk and they are just worthless people who should be treated as such.

    I don't care about: your "tough" life, your drink/drug problem, how someone looked funny at you when you were 11 so now you hate society. You are a pain in the bollix for literally every single other person on the planet and when i call the cops to remove you i just hope that you attempt to resist. It usually makes me go temporarily blind until you wind up cuffed in the back of the squad car feeling a little worse for wear.

    If these scobes knew that they might actually get a sentence for multiple repeat offences - as opposed to being let away with a slap on the wrist - maybe then they would cop themselves on somewhat


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    lawlolawl wrote: »
    See, this kind of thing is why i have zero problem with the guards tooling someone up if they get the chance. No amount of money makes up for having to deal with that.

    If these scobes knew they'd catch a hammering every time they made a nuisance of themselves then life in our cities would be so much more enjoyable.

    I work in public transport and have to deal with a fair amount of their ilk and they are just worthless people who should be treated as such.

    I don't care about: your "tough" life, your drink/drug problem, how someone looked funny at you when you were 11 so now you hate society. You are a pain in the bollix for literally every single other person on the planet and when i call the cops to remove you i just hope that you attempt to resist. It usually makes me go temporarily blind until you wind up cuffed in the back of the squad car feeling a little worse for wear.

    A person like the one in the video would not respond to a "tooling up". You'd have to beat them to within an inch of their life and even then they'd only fear the person who actually beat them. It wouldn't teach them any lesson and they'd be much more violent towards anyone else they see in a uniform and in their own heads be justified.

    Having said that, this kind of behaviour should not be tolerated. There are other options. As an example, leg cuffs and mouth guards should be standard issue for prisoners who kick or spit. Tasers should be deployed on the worst of them. Mandatory prison sentences should be given to people who become violent in a Garda station or court room. Small things but very effective.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    I've my interview for the Gardai coming up shortly. Videos like this both encourage me, but also deter me. Imagine having to go home to the wife and children after putting up with that senseless, horrible criminal.

    One thing I'll tell you - a lot of people would be off on a weeks stress leave if they were threatened like that by a customer, or fellow employee. So let's cut the gardai a little slack.
    The gardai at senior level decided to involve the force in politics as they have in the past and it reflects on them

    Innocent workers were being threatened and intimidated. That's not right. They are paid to install water meters. They didn't vote on it, they weren't elected and so they don't have to answer to Johnny "NOT TO WATER" Bermingham who has decided that he is above the law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,464 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Bambi wrote: »
    It's the reality of shopkeepers, emergency workers, health workers and a whole host of a other people have to deal with without recourse to the protection a garda can avail of.

    They deserve criticism for how they handled the water meter fiasco.

    Just remember to direct the criticism to Garda management, and not one of 10500 Garda rank members who do what they're told.
    What do they think its going to be like on the streets when they sign up?:confused:
    JJJJNR wrote: »
    So what did they expect when they signed up to be a garda, wouldn't like to deal with this day in and day out, but at day 0 you know exactly what to expect.

    You know nothing of what to expect. You do expect to carry out your duties to the word of the law, and you expect all your hard work to come to something by getting criminals convicted. You expect management and the government to have your back when things go wrong for you. You expect to have proper equipment to deal with the situations. You expect to have proper back up for when things get hairy. You expect to receive some abuse, but also expect that abuse to be followed up with another charge and a successful conviction.

    Unfortunately, even with hard work and long hours, the judiciary leaves AGS down with lenient or non-existent sentences. The government want to pay pennies and expect increased workload. Management want every opportunity to hang the Gardai and cut costs so they can show they're able to "manage" and get promotions. You don't have the proper equipment, just some pepper spray and a baton. You rarely have proper back up, especially armed. And assaults on AGS are treated like some people's opinions on here, they should expect it and just live with it. Members being permanently damaged for life and the suspect getting community service.

    They can tell you in Templemore what to expect, but the reality is that it's a lot worse than someone can tell you, and it's not getting better, it's getting even worse.
    so why continue doing the job?

    If I felt such dissatisfaction in my employment i would try something else that was more rewarding

    Because they are probably trapped by debt. A lot of them have mortgages, loads, etc. They can't just leave. And there were good times, where the judiciary, management and government were behind Gardai, so there's the hope that it may turn that way again soon. Doubtful, but there's hope. A quite a lot have left, and more are leaving, especially the newer recruits. And it's sure not easy to leave a job that you've given not only years to, but also potential uprooting of family, leaving friends/family behind for this job. It's a massive commitment, and one which some members may not be willing to give up on yet. If the job was as bad it is currently is from Day 1 of every members start, there would be no Gardai. Things get bad, then worse, and hopefully get better.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 299 ✭✭Old Bill


    The Gardas should of just drove at speed and f**ked that scumbag out of the car.

    That would put manners on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,740 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    Simon2015 wrote: »
    Bouncers get just as much abuse as gardas if not more.

    Utter nonsense.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 228 ✭✭Deep Six


    Old Bill wrote: »
    The Gardas should of just drove at speed and f**ked that scumbag out of the car.

    That would put manners on him.

    Should have tied that dopey scumbag to the tow bar and dragged him along the road. Scum like that should be euthanised.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,622 ✭✭✭Ruu


    Sadly there are probably loads of people out there defending the toerag.


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