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BalcombeSt4

timthumbni wrote: »

It was actually you who brought loyalists in NI into this thread balcombe so you are talking nonsense. Read over your posts and you will see this.

So what if I did? What has that to do with posts you made in other threads about Republicans? grrrrrrrrrrr

timthumbni

Impetus wrote: »

I would have thought it was obvious. France has adopted these countries in a democratic manner, allowing the populations of same to be part of France politically and economically. In the past France had colonies, where the victims were exploited. Like Iraq and Libya have been, and many other Middle Eastern countries - and beyond. For their natural resources. Combined with a tinge of race/religion bias.

I ask again what relevance has this to the bombings in Brussels? Are you saying the Belgians should start paying their ex colonies to be good.

Again what is the connection here?

BalcombeSt4

timthumbni wrote: »

I sort of agree with you but the question is then do we just refuse all genuine refugees??? I would personally be inclined to raise the drawbridge until the nonsense over there is sorted out. Im not confident that it will ever be sorted though. Even if it's only 1 in a 1000 extremists getting in (and I think it's higher) then Germany by taking in a million will potentially have 1000 extremists and then their potential converts. It's madness but the looney left would have us take anybody without thinking of the long term consequences later.

This is the slippy slope you go down when you start agreeing with far-right nutters & white power groups.

timthumbni

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

So what if I did? What has that to do with posts you made in other threads about Republicans grrrrrrrrrrr

Let's just leave it balcombe for another time, another place on another thread otherwise we will just clog up this thread with Irrelevant nonsense.

Cheers.

BalcombeSt4

I have to go buy fags anyway. grrrrrrrrr

timthumbni

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

This is the slippy slope you go down when you start agreeing with far-right nutters & white power groups.

On topic so I will reply. The big question is that if you are guaranteeing entry to a certain percentage of nut jobs then are you better cutting it off completely?

It may not even be our problem (though Brussels and Paris etc suggest differently) but are you not slightly concerned that our future generations will someday be saying why did we allow this?

White power has no connection to this thread balcombe. You seem to have a real issue regarding this.

timthumbni

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

I have to go buy fags anyway. grrrrrrrrr

What's with all the grrrrrrrrrrs? Are you a grizzly bear???

stoplooklisten

The "march against fear" has been called off, due to fear

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-belgium-blast-idUSKCN0WS0OA

KERSPLAT!

timthumbni wrote: »

What's with all the grrrrrrrrrrs? Are you a grizzly bear???

I'll grizzly bear the two of ye if ya don't pack in the NI/IRA/Loyalist talk

timthumbni

stoplooklisten wrote: »

The "march against fear" has been called off, due to fear

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-belgium-blast-idUSKCN0WS0OA

I wonder do the rulers of these countries ever sit down and say you know we need to think of our future generations.

stoplooklisten

timthumbni wrote: »

I wonder do the rulers of these countries ever sit down and say you know we need to think of our future generations.

I doubt it. The more that comes out, the more I wonder whose side they are on.


Terror suspect shot and held by Brussels police 'had been jailed for seven years for helping Taliban assassinate Afghan leader two days before 9/11'



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3510599/Terror-suspect-shot-held-Brussels-police-jailed-seven-years-helping-Taliban-assassinate-Afghan-leader-two-days-9-11.html

stoplooklisten

This news doesn't sound good


http://mashable.com/2016/03/27/brussels-attack-security-mistakes/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#Uomd1ZtyogqH


Jambon also said the Brussels subway network had been told to shut off services 20 minutes before the attack in the city's Maelbeek subway station — close to European Union headquarters and the U.S. embassy. He did not fully explain why it was not closed in time, raising more questions about the efficiency of Belgium's security services.

Impetus

stoplooklisten wrote: »

This news doesn't sound good


http://mashable.com/2016/03/27/brussels-attack-security-mistakes/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#Uomd1ZtyogqH


Jambon also said the Brussels subway network had been told to shut off services 20 minutes before the attack in the city's Maelbeek subway station — close to European Union headquarters and the U.S. embassy. He did not fully explain why it was not closed in time, raising more questions about the efficiency of Belgium's security services.

Belgium's security services should be advising the BE state to remain diplomatic, as Belgium has been since its foundation. A Belgian Ambassador was interviewed on CNBC the other day, and he had a spot-on assessment of the issues. Belgium has only entangled itself, unwittingly, in the issue because of French junk media. It seems to me that the Belgian open approach to people from other cultures is the nation's greatest asset. No European should allow that to be destroyed by ejit 'security' obsessionists. If anything, Belgium should use its position at the heart of the EU to ostracize EU states engaged in state terrorism.

stoplooklisten

A moron guy survived 3 attacks , boston, paris and brussels. Does anyone think he is a crisis actor?

Impetus

All freedoms come with responsibilities.

Freedom of speech comes with responsibilities and limitations.

The Charlie Hebdo cartoons were undoubtedly interpreted as blasphemous in certain circles, especially in the deprived bainlieu, around NE Paris, with large populations of French citizens who hail from Arabic colonies of the past.

While this is no excuse for committing the awful events in Paris, in November 2015, it underscores the need for responsible speech. Something that the people who worked at http://charliehebdo.fr were oblivious of. They appear to me to have been engaging in racist (anti Arabic-Muslim) propaganda, ‘to entertain the perverse needs’ of their audience – ie to sell more copies of the ‘rag’ they produce.

In the South of France, eg in Nice, it is routine for Muslims to pray on carpets laid out on the street, and the Euro-Niceoise residents have no problem with that. It is an accepted ‘legacy’ along the Mediterranean.

There is a substantial risk that we will have an anti-Muslim US president next. A frightening thought. http://en.rfi.fr/americas/20151210-france-joins-international-condemnation-trumps-anti-muslim-rhetoric.

I personally don’t want anything to do with an EU member state, the EU itself, or the USA, or any other jurisdiction, where politicians and bureaucrats focus on ‘security measures’ to back-up uncivilised military or similar action against any nation, or group of poeples. It seems to me that Ireland, being a victim of state terrorism from another country for 600+ years, should distance itself from any ‘security co-operation’ with the EU or US, to allow them, or member states to conduct military terrorism against any fellow human beings. Even if it means leaving the EU.

thattequilagirl

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Are you too embarrassed to stand over your bull****ty comment to actually name the country? Where muslims and catholics live in harmony. I'd be interested in reading up on what approach they took to achieve such harmony. The majority of countries seem to have had issues. Those listed for instance.

Lebanon? Turkey?

JPNelsforearm

Impetus wrote: »

All freedoms come with responsibilities.

Freedom of speech comes with responsibilities and limitations.

The Charlie Hebdo cartoons were undoubtedly interpreted as blasphemous in certain circles, especially in the deprived bainlieu, around NE Paris, with large populations of French citizens who hail from Arabic colonies of the past.

While this is no excuse for committing the awful events in Paris, in November 2015, it underscores the need for responsible speech. Something that the people who worked at http://charliehebdo.fr were oblivious of. They appear to me to have been engaging in racist (anti Arabic-Muslim) propaganda, ‘to entertain the perverse needs’ of their audience – ie to sell more copies of the ‘rag’ they produce.

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Complete nonsense, pander away though, sell your rights down the river so peoples feelings wont be hurt and as a trade off for some perceived "security" benefit. There will always be another reason and another excuse. More erosion of rights and freedoms.

Prime example

I didnt realise Belgians were engaged in occupying Palestine..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6tksmi3JoI

take everything

stoplooklisten wrote: »

The "march against fear" has been called off, due to fear

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-belgium-blast-idUSKCN0WS0OA

This is The Onion stuff now.
Actually, I think liberofascism is well overdue some decent parody.
Wonder have The Onion done anything like this lately.

Hande hoche!

stoplooklisten wrote: »

A moron guy survived 3 attacks , boston, paris and brussels. Does anyone think he is a crisis actor?

Mormon? He should probably pack in the traveling.

ceadaoin.

stoplooklisten wrote: »

A moron guy survived 3 attacks , boston, paris and brussels. Does anyone think he is a crisis actor?

He was in Paris at the time of the attacks, but not actually involved in them and was a block away from the finish line at the Boston marathon. Not injured or affected at all. I wouldnt describe that as "surviving". Weird coincidence to be in the area of 3 terrorist attacks but just that, a coincidence.

Impetus

JPNelsforearm wrote: »

Complete nonsense, pander away though, sell your rights down the river so peoples feelings wont be hurt and as a trade off for some perceived "security" benefit. There will always be another reason and another excuse. More erosion of rights and freedoms.

Prime example

I didnt realise Belgians were engaged in occupying Palestine..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6tksmi3JoI

There is a big Jewish population in Belgium (eg Antwerp diamond district etc).

Britain (as well as the US) were the key movers in the structural/geographic changes in Palestine. Not Belgium. Even Ireland recognizes Israel as a country..... (One has an open mind on whether it should or not).

I see little or any positive contribution in this thread to arriving at a political solution to anti-Arab/Muslim racism in Europe. People like you are just nitpicking around the edges. Which is the most dysfunctional trait of politicians (compared with entrepreneurs who want to create something positive). Perhaps one could define a statesman (woman) as a political entrepreneur - not that they want to make €€€ for themselves, but they are focused on fixing a problem. Oirish and EU politicians just want to grab votes to keep themselves in power, with the salary, pension and other benefits of office.

ceadaoin.

Impetus wrote: »

There is a big Jewish population in Belgium (eg Antwerp diamond district etc).

Britain (as well as the US) were the key movers in the structural/geographic changes in Palestine. Not Belgium. Even Ireland recognizes Israel as a country..... (One has an open mind on whether it should or not).

I see little or any positive contribution in this thread to arriving at a political solution to anti-Arab/Muslim racism in Europe. People like you are just nitpicking around the edges. Which is the most dysfunctional trait of politicians (compared with entrepreneurs who want to create something positive). Perhaps one could define a statesman (woman) as a political entrepreneur - not that they want to make €€€ for themselves, but they are focused on fixing a problem. Oirish and EU politicians just want to grab votes to keep themselves in power, with the salary, pension and other benefits of office.

What do european Jews have to do with Israel and Palestine? Is that not equivalent of blaming all Muslims for the acts of Islamist terrorists?

stoplooklisten

thattequilagirl wrote: »

Lebanon? Turkey?

Are these in in the EU, or even Europe? No it's a bustling EU paradise.


*mormon yes, apologies for that typo

Impetus wrote: »

...
The Charlie Hebdo cartoons.....

have you caught this months issue with the cartoon about the Belgium attacks?

In case anyone missed it http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20160325_02203564

Impetus

stoplooklisten wrote: »

have you caught this months issue with the cartoon about the Belgium attacks?

In case anyone missed it http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20160325_02203564

Charlie is jumping on the racist ladder, yet again. If you don't speak Dutch, Charlie has a disgusting mock on the attacks in Brussels, cartoonificated.

Thanks for the link.

It seems to me that this ideology (anti-Belgian and anti-Arab/Muslim) may go to the highest levels of the http://www.gouvernement.fr / French society. I love France, and have great relationships with many French people, but it is not perfect, particularly in the political zone. The degree of French influence on the EU is worrying, (as is the British). The 28 states of the EU should behave like the 26 states (cantons) of Switzerland. Of course Switzerland has the benefit of no mega-states - most cantons have a similar population - give or take a million or so people. And unlike the EU Switzerland has democracy from top to bottom, and a well educated population.

stefanovich

Impetus wrote:

While this is no excuse for committing the awful events in Paris, in November 2015, it underscores the need for responsible speech. Something that the people who worked at

Nonsense. How often do Catholics get offended and blow themselves up? Near constant ridicule of Jesus and the church in mainstream media.
If you want to live in a liberal European society then toughen up and don't go fucjig jihadist when someone makes fun of momo.

stoplooklisten

Terror suspects caught in Rotterdam and in Italy today, the're rounding them up at least

Impetus

stefanovich wrote: »

Nonsense. How often do Catholics get offended and blow themselves up? Near constant ridicule of Jesus and the church in mainstream media.
If you want to live in a liberal European society then toughen up and don't go fucjig jihadist when someone makes fun of momo.

I agree Catholics and other Christians normally don't do this stuff (aside from NI history). But Catholic means universal. I spend much of my time in a 99% Catholic country, probably the most Catholic country in Europe, but they have a Semitic language, like Arabs and Jews. These people's culture allows them to get extremely intense about matters various. They are not blasé. If you send an email, chances are you get a reply within minutes. There is almost zero crime in this country - about the same level as Monaco. But they can get extremely animated in a confrontation. That is their culture, in my books. Needless to say they don't blow people up etc. My takeaway is that Semetic language speakers are much less tolerant than others - especially Europeans.

Impetus

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Terror suspects caught in Rotterdam and in Italy today, the're rounding them up at least

While it is better to have these people off the streets, if the legal systems can accomplish same, it does not solve the problem. They have other family members who will probably be even more outraged.

stoplooklisten

Impetus wrote: »

While it is better to have these people off the streets, if the legal systems can accomplish same, it does not solve the problem. They have other family members who will probably be even more outraged.

Round them up too and anyone else that sympathizes, deport them to syria. Operation is still onging in Rotterdam , more arrests may follow. the rule of law will not solve this.

foggy_lad

stoplooklisten wrote: »

Terror suspects caught in Rotterdam and in Italy today, the're rounding them up at least

They appear to know who and where these people are so why are they only "lifting" them now?