Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

Devastator

maximoose wrote: »

Most "reputable" journos are saying the talks are ongoing for 202

Which surely runs into the same problems as the 200 press commitments I would think. McG is in the states now(or he just was) and maybe he has done some recording for a commercial BUT they'll be wanting to do 3/4 pressers and plenty of tv promotion in around 6-8 weeks time meaning he will have to travel back across the Atlantic interupting his training again.

Its probably just selfishness because I want to go, but 205 in NYC(No matter what DW said) may make more sense. It opens up the option for possibly having a Edgar FW fight or if Aldo wins he'll be sitting out for a while(as usual) which leaves the Diaz fight open. Its also long enough off that they could do a load of promotion work in advance and let the fighters get back to their normal schedules in plenty of time.

Useful.Idiot wrote: »

It's also not as if McGregor is the first ever trash talker to be beaten and then given a rematch...

Sonnen talked himself into 3 title fights when some people didn't think he deserved the 1st fight, or any of them Obviously McG is a champion though which gives him more negotiating power.

Useful.Idiot

Devastator wrote: »

Sonnen talked himself into 3 title fights when some people didn't think he deserved the 1st fight, or any of them Obviously McG is a champion though which gives him more negotiating power.

Well I mean more so in response to those saying about the pressers "He got beat, what's he gonna he say now?". I'm sure he'll have plenty to say! Just as many trash talkers who have lost and gotten a rematch before have had plenty to say . Sure look at Bisping unloading at Rockhold last week!

Useful.Idiot

Useful.Idiot wrote: »

Well I mean more so in response to those saying about the pressers "He got beat, what's he gonna he say now?". I'm sure he'll have plenty to say! Just as many trash talkers who have lost and gotten a rematch before have had plenty to say . Sure look at Bisping unloading at Rockhold last week!

that "He got beat carries zero clout with me", only 170 fighters can say that.
the 145'ers have zero to say because I cannot recall the last time they had 180+man opposite them on any night so end of discussion.

The nearest would be frankie against maynard who looked a good 170+ the second time round, so maybe he has a case to make, maybe!

srm23

maximoose wrote: »

The UFC 200 ship sailed a long time ago.

Most "reputable" journos are saying the talks are ongoing for 202

If there is an injury to Aldo or Mendes what will happen?

Saipanne

srm23 wrote: »

If there is an injury to Aldo or Mendes what will happen?

A replacement might be found.

Depp

srm23 wrote: »

If there is an injury to Aldo or Mendes what will happen?

could possibly draft him in late but i doubt it severely, say they take the non-injured party and go balls to the wall to organise them v conor for 201/202

ItsAnEasyGame

srm23 wrote: »

maximoose wrote: »

The UFC 200 ship sailed a long time ago.

Most "reputable" journos are saying the talks are ongoing for 202

If there is an injury to Aldo or Mendes what will happen?

Frankie, right?

Devastator

There ain't enough of the pie left to put McG on 200 anymore. Jones/DC/Tate & possibly Nunes/Aldo/Edgar all with PPV cuts already and McG would probably(most likely) demand the biggest chunk as the main attraction.

Financially, it works out better for fighters & Zuffa to have him on a separate card

martyos121

Devastator wrote: »

There ain't enough of the pie left to put McG on 200 anymore. Jones/DC/Tate & possibly Nunes/Aldo/Edgar all with PPV cuts already and McG would probably(most likely) demand the biggest chunk as the main attraction.

Financially, it works out better for fighters & Zuffa to have him on a separate card

If Amanda Nunes is getting a PPV cut, then you could make a strong argument for any of us getting one too. All due respect to her I'm sure she's a lovely girl, but nobody really gives a crap about her, people will only care for Miesha winning to set up a big fight against Ronda or Cyborg next.

Devastator

martyos121 wrote: »

If Amanda Nunes is getting a PPV cut, then you could make a strong argument for any of us getting one too. All due respect to her I'm sure she's a lovely girl, but nobody really gives a crap about her, people will only care for Miesha winning to set up a big fight against Ronda or Cyborg next.

She is in a title fight on a PPV card though. I've said she's possibly getting a cut but TBH because its a title fight I'd expect her to have some sort of extra on top of her basic fight contract. I know where you're coming from though and I do agree

sonofenoch

irishdude11 wrote: »

I do like McGregor and I think he is dead right. How could McGregor do a press conference with Nate...what would he say...every single question fired at him would basically be insinuating that he can't back up what he says...it would be a disaster for his brand and his ego.



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Already did one, and he was there before 'Nate'......how could Aldo ever show up for a presser should they fight again

Cathy.C

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Joe Duffy dedicated a whole programme the day the fighters passing became known as an I told you so to his audience

I know. I posted on it here. A sanctimonious git if ever there was one.

why would Conor give him the time of day particularly when he played a clip of Conors comments following the fight in which Joe then made a mockery of.

Never said he should. I referred to it to show the kind of crap he, and SBG, were obviously putting up that week, especially considering his post fight comments.

jones 19 wrote: »

Cathy C. Can you show some of those interviews of Mc Gregor pumped for the rematch .

I was more referring to the fact that he had no bother giving an interview the night of the Joao fight, his first public appearance since his defeat (that interview is back up) now) and any quote that appeared in articles where others around him were interviewed, it was coming across loud and clear that he was very much pumped for the rematch. Dana has said he was obsessed with the fight. Conor made instagram posts directed at Nate also and Kavanagh posted this pic of Conor

..a few days before the Joao fight and said: "The road to #ufc200 starts today".

Mc Gregor said the death of the Portuguese fighter affected him. But days after when he was dicking around on Twitter with that other tool Kavanagh he was having fun with the whole episode. It seems strange behaviour and disrespectful from a guy not in the frame of mind after the death of a fellow fighter.

"Having fun with the whole episode"? Seriously? April 12th he posted his comments about Joao's death. Kavanagh posted links to those trying raise money for Joao's family a few times over the following days. The 'cheese tweet' was almost a week after that and Conor has said that it was made in response to the UFC refusing to grant him the leeway he requested, to show that just because he would not be in Vegas didn't meant that he wasn't still capable of generating interest in the fight.

I criticized Kavanagh myself on this thread for some of the crap he posted and was even thinking for a short time that his behavior was surely indicative of the fight still being on 200, such was how inappropriate those tweets seemed at the time.. but at no point do I think anything that was said was disrespectful to what just happened Joao. They were in Iceland at that stage and had left Portugal. A couple of Irish fans caught up with Conor in Iceland at around that time and to me he seemed kinda quiet.

Look, at the end of the day the guy has said regarding what happened:

"It’s not nice to see a kid die like that. It does something to you. It’s ****ed up to be a part of it, and I didn’t want to bring it back up and put it more on a public scale. After all that, I did not want to be put in front of a camera and made to dance. I just wasn’t feeling it.”

Now as far as I'm concerned it's one thing having the opinion that the above might be true challenged, that's understandable, but now after McGregor himself has come out and confirmed that this was in fact where his head was at the time and waswhy he wasn't in the right frame of mind to be going to Vegas and doing the whole mma trash talking thing, it really is bloody incredulous for anyone to still try to argue that there was another reason (be that fear of losing or whatever) as what that implies is that Conor is now using the events surrounding Joao's death as an excuse. I mean, I know there are many people who don't like McGreror in this country but for me that is stooping quite low, even by Irish begrudgery standards.

Cathy.C

Muppet trying to make Conor calling Mayweather 'boy' a race issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqG8wfraf6c

Myrddin

Lol, he was put in his place & retreated sharply enough. Clown

Depp

Cathy.C wrote: »

Muppet trying to make Conor calling Mayweather 'boy' a race issue.

oh god help me that was fupping hilarious, what a colossal bellend!

Devastator

Should just show him this clip from the commitments :pac:

StringerBell

Skip Bayliss is a dope, always has been, always will be.

Other then the idiocy at the start he is pretty bang on though for a change. Floyd does not need McGregor more then he needs him.

Panel calls it well in all honesty, particularly the part where Steve made clear that it is disrespectful to the sport for Mayweather to be flirting with this, nothing unusual with him either though of course.

newbbieb

StringerBell wrote: »

Skip Bayliss is a dope, always has been, always will be.

Other then the idiocy at the start he is pretty bang on though for a change. Floyd does not need McGregor more then he needs him.

Panel calls it well in all honesty, particularly the part where Steve made clear that it is disrespectful to the sport for Mayweather to be flirting with this, nothing unusual with him either though of course.

While obviously someone with the money of Floyd doesn't need anyone,but i think Conor has a bit of a point.

Floyd is never absolutely never gonna step inside a ring with triple G,he would get murdered.Pacquaio fight while still is the most likely next fight for Floyd and will do pretty well in ppv there is some question marks hanging over its marketability.

There is the gay thing Pacquiao got himself embroiled with his stupid comments which hurt him big time,there was protests at his last fight and it bombed on ppv as did Floyds last fight plus nobody was exactly satisfied after the first time they fought.

Canelo rematch wouldn't do great at all,everyone knows it will go much like the first fight and Canelos last fight with Khan didn't do great numbers.So in fact while the Pacman rematch would definitely outsell the Conor fight its the only option Floyd has other than Conor since he is not stepping in the ring with GGG.

Most likely Floyd just put this out there to use as negotiating tactic for the pacman rematch so as to show he has options for fights that can do big numbers,that is the fight that will happen in September.

CatFromHue

Who here would buy a ppv ticket, or whatever they're called, for a Mayweather v McGregor fight?

I wouldn't anyway

sonofenoch

CatFromHue wrote: »

Who here would buy a ppv ticket, or whatever they're called, for a Mayweather v McGregor fight?

I wouldn't anyway

People still 'pay' for ppv in the year 2016? :rolleyes:

mdwexford

CatFromHue wrote: »

Who here would buy a ppv ticket, or whatever they're called, for a Mayweather v McGregor fight?

I wouldn't anyway

I certainly wouldn't be not watching anyway.

Anyone that has any interest in MMA or boxing that says otherwise is a liar.

stephenl15

sonofenoch wrote: »

People still 'pay' for ppv in the year 2016? :rolleyes:

Well of course, if it's something you're really interested in and you don't wanna watch a crappy stream

Lukker-

Nate Diaz on the MMAHour with Ariel tomorrow, should have some interesting things to say.

CatFromHue

sonofenoch wrote: »

People still 'pay' for ppv in the year 2016? :rolleyes:

Tell McGregor that, it's all he goes on about :pac:

Wrongway1985

mdwexford wrote: »

I certainly wouldn't be not watching anyway.

Anyone that has any interest in MMA or boxing that says otherwise is a liar.

Fight would no doubt do big numbers call me a liar all you want but the prospect of Conor/Floyd in boxing it simply doesn't interest me and would be deemed missable.

I wouldn't bother seriously of course I'd pay attention to the reports in aftermath and in unlikely event it was deemed worthwhile would playback somewhere.

Mellor

CatFromHue wrote: »

Who here would buy a ppv ticket, or whatever they're called, for a Mayweather v McGregor fight?

I wouldn't anyway

In the last 12 months how many UFC or Boxing PPVs have you bought.
Which ones?

CatFromHue wrote: »

Tell McGregor that, it's all he goes on about :pac:

194 and 196 both did well over 1 million buys. I'm pretty sure the PPV sales are alive and well.

Hazys

mdwexford wrote: »

I certainly wouldn't be not watching anyway.

Anyone that has any interest in MMA or boxing that says otherwise is a liar.

Boxing fans who hate MMA will watch to see MMA be put in its place.

MMA fans will watch to see how an elite MMA athlete matches up with an elite boxer.

Everybody else in between and the general public will watch because it will be the most hyped and intriguing fight in recent combat sport history.

I think the fight has the potential to big as Mayweather Pacquiao

Tazzimus

That was fantastic.

White guy: I get so offended when CmcG calls Mayweather "boy"

Black guy: I don't...

White guy:.....

What a gigantic tool.

CatFromHue

Mellor wrote: »

In the last 12 months how many UFC or Boxing PPVs have you bought.
Which ones?



194 and 196 both did well over 1 million buys. I'm pretty sure the PPV sales are alive and well.

I have BT.

I was responding to a poster who said who buys PPV's anymore, I know he sells well. It was a joke.

Subcomandante Marcos

Mellor wrote: »

In the last 12 months how many UFC or Boxing PPVs have you bought.
Which ones?



194 and 196 both did well over 1 million buys. I'm pretty sure the PPV sales are alive and well.

Very few people outside of the US and Canada buy UFC PPV. Most people watch through a subscription sports broadcaster like BT or Sky, and if they do buy on Fightpass they pay a fraction of the price of the US and Canadian markets pay.

Both did over a million buys, that's good for UFC... Mayweather vs Pacquiao did over 4.4million buys in the US alone and generated over half a billion in revenue world wide.


In short, people buy big boxing events, in their millions. It's more established, it has a bigger fan base and the competitors are, in general, better known world wide.

The idea that Conor attracts more people to the table then Floyd is delusional, even in a fight that meant nothing against a journeyman like Berto, Mayweather sold 550k PPV buys + gate + international revenue and made himself an easy $38million upfront + whatever he made on the backend.


If the fight ever happened, it would be a total purse of x-amount with Floyd getting the vast majority of it, the UFC taking the next chunk and Conor getting a pat on the head for being a good lad and taking a beating.

But it won't happen, so this entire conversation is a total waste of time so I'm off to get half price fish and chips.
:pac: