Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

califano

Its as likely as the story that gained momentum about Ronan O'Gara turning kicker for the Miami Dolphins

dave1982

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Very few people outside of the US and Canada buy UFC PPV. Most people watch through a subscription sports broadcaster like BT or Sky, and if they do buy on Fightpass they pay a fraction of the price of the US and Canadian markets :

Stupid question but can Americans use a proxy for cheaper ppv online? Or would credit card also need be Irish English?

Cathy.C

Lukker- wrote: »

Nate Diaz on the MMAHour with Ariel tomorrow, should have some interesting things to say.

Yeah, should be very interesting, what with Nate not exactly being the type to mince his words or bite his tongue.

jmx009

dave1982 wrote: »

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Very few people outside of the US and Canada buy UFC PPV. Most people watch through a subscription sports broadcaster like BT or Sky, and if they do buy on Fightpass they pay a fraction of the price of the US and Canadian markets :

Stupid question but can Americans use a proxy for cheaper ppv online? Or would credit card also need be Irish Eng

I live in the states and use proxy servers and buy the PPVs for 25 euros as opposed to the 50 or 60 dollars that i have to pay otherwise. I use my AIB Debit card to make the payment. Dont know if it will work if i use an American Credit card. I guess i will find out in a couple of months when the last couple of hundred quid in my AIB bank dries up and i am forced to enter my Bank of america card.
But for now, it works.

DrPhilG

jmx009 wrote: »

I guess i will find out in a couple of months when the last couple of hundred quid in my AIB bank dries up and i am forced to enter my Bank of america card.
But for now, it works.

Just send your AIB account a money transfer and carry on.

Won't cost a lot for the transfer, certainly less than the price difference in PPVs.

Depp

Cathy.C wrote: »

Yeah, should be very interesting, what with Nate not exactly being the type to mince his words or bite his tongue.

looking forward to it! bit strange having a special edition though expecting a big announcement!

Devastator

dave1982 wrote: »

Stupid question but can Americans use a proxy for cheaper ppv online? Or would credit card also need be Irish English?

You would just enter the 16 digit no & exp date right? They'll not look into what bank its from I doubt. All visa cards start with 4 & M'card 5, but as far as banks I don't think it would pick up. Could consider getting prepay(European) card and just top up funds as & when

DrPhilG wrote: »

Just send your AIB account a money transfer and carry on.

Won't cost a lot for the transfer, certainly less than the price difference in PPVs.

Used to be £12 per international transfer few years ago(I'd presume its the same or similar now). You need an IBAN(pretty sure thats the name) number. Its a long number sometimes on your bank statement but if not your bank should give you it over phone/branch.

DrPhilG

Devastator wrote: »

Used to be £12 per international transfer few years ago(I'd presume its the same or similar now). You need an IBAN(pretty sure thats the name) number. Its a long number sometimes on your bank statement but if not your bank should give you it over phone/branch.

I've sent money between my Irish and Northern accounts for less, depends on the speed of the delivery and the country I think.

Have also sent money to India cheaply.

But if it's a choice between $70 and €20 for a ppv, it would still be worth doing it every time.

Or better still, send enough for the next half a dozen events (or as many as you have the spare cash to cover in advance) and only get charged once.

Devastator

DrPhilG wrote: »

I've sent money between my Irish and Northern accounts for less, depends on the speed of the delivery and the country I think.

Have also sent money to India cheaply.

ohhhh the bank I used to work for were obviously just robbing bast*rds then :pac: I've never needed to do it myself but had to tell quite a few people the process

dave1982

Rumours of Diaz McGregor to coach next TUF

Saipanne

dave1982 wrote: »

Rumours of Diaz McGregor to coach next TUF

Ugh.

jimmii

jmx009 wrote: »

I live in the states and use proxy servers and buy the PPVs for 25 euros as opposed to the 50 or 60 dollars that i have to pay otherwise. I use my AIB Debit card to make the payment. Dont know if it will work if i use an American Credit card. I guess i will find out in a couple of months when the last couple of hundred quid in my AIB bank dries up and i am forced to enter my Bank of america card.
But for now, it works.

Use Currency Fair to move it to your Irish account. I'm always having to move money from € to £ and vice versa saves me a fortune on fees!

Devastator

dave1982 wrote: »

Rumours of Diaz McGregor to coach next TUF

So the next next TUF because they've already announced Cejudo & Benavidez for the next TUF. Don't think that rumour will last long

jimmii

Devastator wrote: »

So the next next TUF because they've already announced Cejudo & Benavidez for the next TUF. Don't think that rumour will last long

Definitely just a rumour McGregor will be too busy training for the Mayweather fight to be doing TUF.

Devastator

jimmii wrote: »

Definitely just a rumour McGregor will be too busy training for the Mayweather fight to be doing TUF.

Mayweather? Load of crap! I heard he's taking on a double team of Ronald McDonald and Colonel Sanders :pac: The Burger King has a sore elbow which is why he was ruled out

HardenendMan

I know it's probably all just nonsense rumours re Mayweather V McGregor.

But from a sporting point of view I think it would be unfair to Conor to have a normal boxing match against Mayweather. Bit like expecting a GAA player to beat a soccer player in soccer.

Stick the two in an MMA match and Conor would win easily IMO. He would win quicker than Mayweather would in the boxing ring.

It would be some buzz all the same. An unprecedented event that would make record numbers.

jimmii

Devastator wrote: »

Mayweather? Load of crap! I heard he's taking on a double team of Ronald McDonald and Colonel Sanders :pac: The Burger King has a sore elbow which is why he was ruled out

Rumours is Colonel Sanders won't show up. Apparently he's chicken.

price690

HardenendMan wrote: »

I know it's probably all just nonsense rumours re Mayweather V McGregor.

But from a sporting point of view I think it would be unfair to Conor to have a normal boxing match against Mayweather. Bit like expecting a GAA player to beat a soccer player in soccer.

Stick the two in an MMA match and Conor would win easily IMO. He would win quicker than Mayweather would in the boxing ring.

It would be some buzz all the same. An unprecedented event that would make record numbers.

I'm presuming this is your way of inferring Conor is better at MMA than Floyd is at boxing.

Hes not though.

If this event actually happens its an absolute farce. I wouldn't put it past Mayweather in fairness, he likes making huge money when odds are stacked in his favour.

A glorified sparring session that Mayweather can finish at any time he wants. Any top 20 welterweight boxer would stop McGregor without breaking a sweat, and if anyone thinks otherwise they are a fool.

Likewise McGregor would do similar in the octagon, the only difference is I don't think McGregor is as dominant in his own game as Mayweather is in his.

The only thing that would make it slightly interesting would be a boxing match with MMA gloves but theres no way Mayweather would take a risk of that kind, He wouldn't take a risk of any sort thats his game.

It would make a mockery of both sports in fairness.

Depp

price690 wrote: »

I'm presuming this is your way of inferring Conor is better at MMA than Floyd is at boxing.

Hes not though.

If this event actually happens its an absolute farce. I wouldn't put it past Mayweather in fairness, he likes making huge money when odds are stacked in his favour.

A glorified sparring session that Mayweather can finish at any time he wants. Any top 20 welterweight boxer would stop McGregor without breaking a sweat, and if anyone thinks otherwise they are a fool.

Likewise McGregor would do similar in the octagon, the only difference is I don't think McGregor is as dominant in his own game as Mayweather is in his.

The only thing that would make it slightly interesting would be a boxing match with MMA gloves but theres no way Mayweather would take a risk of that kind, He wouldn't take a risk of any sort thats his game.

It would make a mockery of both sports in fairness.

nah he was saying mcgregor would finish an mma fight between the two than floyd would a boxing bout, you cant really argue whos better at their respective sports cause theyre so different, floyd has more success, but hes been at it a lot longer, so its not really a point. and theres no argueing he hasnt been dominant in his own division, look how dominant jose was and how that went? floyd has been dominant as hell but by fighting smart, picking his fights, avoiding the best guys and spoiling his way to wins with his excellent defense, he has very little power and to say he can knock anyone out whenever he wants especially someone bigger than him shows poor knowledge of boxing, unless they stand there giving him a hug like ortiz the only one mayweather is knocking out is his wife.

dont think the fight will happen but it definitely could, no way mayweather fights in anything other than a boxing ring with boxing gloves hes too smart to have it any other way, if it were to happen hed have every possible advantage for him written into the contract like all his fights

Mellor

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Very few people outside of the US and Canada buy UFC PPV. Most people watch through a subscription sports broadcaster like BT or Sky, and if they do buy on Fightpass they pay a fraction of the price of the US and Canadian markets pay.

I'm aware of that. That's essentially my point. People saying they've no interest and wouldn't buy the PPV. But they aren't the target market. If they don't currently buy PPVs that put it on the same level as UFC 194/196/200 etc.

It's much easier to pick up casual buys when the fight is on a Saturday night prime time instead of middle of the night.
People who watch it in bars also contribute to PPV without realising.

jigglypuffstuff

Depp wrote: »

you cant really argue whos better at their respective sports cause theyre so different, floyd has more success, but hes been at it a lot longer, so its not really a point.

To be fair, Floyd is undefeated and holds the 49-0 record tied with Rocky Marciano,

Conor has been defeated

Kind of says who's better at their respective sports imo.

Still dont get the hype surrounding this fight...It'd be an embarassement for Conor

He'd do well the focus on the MMA, and defending that belt he's been holding

Mellor

pone2012 wrote: »

To be fair, Floyd is undefeated and holds the 49-0 record tied with Rocky Marciano,

Conor has been defeated

Kind of says who's better at their respective sports imo.

Still dont get the hype surrounding this fight...It'd be an embarassement for Conor

He'd do well the focus on the MMA, and defending that belt he's been holding

Not sure if you are actually think records in different sport are comparable, or if just having another dig.

In case it is the former. A 49 fight undefeated is not unheard of in boxing. It's not even close the record for longest undefeated streak. Those kinds of streaks don't happen in top level MMA. Fighter rarely go past streak 10 fights once they are at the UFC level, the record is 16.
Travis Fulton has a 40 fight streak, he isn't one of the greats.

THere's nothing in Mayweather's record comparable to Conor's match with Diaz. He never gives up an edge like that. It would be like him taking a fight with GGG. He wouldn't win.
And Conor early losses are when he was a novice, comparable with amateur level in a boxers career - where Mayweather has losses.

The fact is, Mayweather has more twice as many (6) losses in the ring as Conor.
Now I'm not suggesting that means anything,I'm highlighting the ridiculousness of comparing records in different sports.


if the greatest of all times is defined by a record. Then Aleksandr Karelin crushes everyone. 887 wins and 2 losses.

price690

Depp wrote: »

nah he was saying mcgregor would finish an mma fight between the two than floyd would a boxing bout, you cant really argue whos better at their respective sports cause theyre so different, floyd has more success, but hes been at it a lot longer, so its not really a point. and theres no argueing he hasnt been dominant in his own division, look how dominant jose was and how that went? floyd has been dominant as hell but by fighting smart, picking his fights, avoiding the best guys and spoiling his way to wins with his excellent defense, he has very little power and to say he can knock anyone out whenever he wants especially someone bigger than him shows poor knowledge of boxing, unless they stand there giving him a hug like ortiz the only one mayweather is knocking out is his wife.

dont think the fight will happen but it definitely could, no way mayweather fights in anything other than a boxing ring with boxing gloves hes too smart to have it any other way, if it were to happen hed have every possible advantage for him written into the contract like all his fights

I didn't say Mayweather could KO anyone he wants. I said he could KO Conor McGregor an MMA fighter and boxing novice. Now you mention Ortiz, even he would do the very same to McGregor inside a round. Its not an insult its just the reality of an elite level boxer in a boxing ring with a novice. Yes he has decent stand up in MMA but he is a novice in pro boxing terms.

I said it very early on, take a look at Rigondeaux v Willie Casey in their bantamweight fight. If you think Floyd is negative then take a look at Rigo's defence first approach. And look what he did to Casey.

Now bear in mind that Casey is pound for pound a better boxer than McGregor on sheer experience. And Mayweather is a better pound for pound fighter than Rigondeaux. Even an defensive master like Mayweather/Rigo who prefers counter punching their way to victory will KO you by landing at will when they let their hands go.

It would make him very very rich. But he would get utterly embarrassed. And shame on Mayweather for going through with it aswell if it did happen.

Depp

price690 wrote: »

I didn't say Mayweather could KO anyone he wants. I said he could KO Ortiz would do the very same to McGregor inside a round. Its not an insult its just the reality of an elite level boxer in a boxing ring with a novice. Yes he has decent stand up in MMA but he is a novice in pro boxing terms.

I said it very early on, take a look at Rigondeaux v Willie Casey in their bantamweight fight. If you think Floyd is negative then take a look at Rigo's defence first approach. And look what he did to Casey.

Now bear in mind that Casey is pound for pound a better boxer than McGregor on sheer experience. And Mayweather is a better pound for pound fighter than Rigondeaux. Even an defensive master like Mayweather/Rigo who prefers counter punching their way to victory will KO you by landing at will when they let their hands go.

It would make him very very rich. But he would get utterly embarrassed. And shame on Mayweather for going through with it aswell if it did happen.

I wish i was allowed to watch mcgregors sparring sessions the way you are, then maybe id know what level his boxing is as well as you do!

jigglypuffstuff

Mellor wrote: »

Not sure if you are actually think records in different sport are comparable, or if just having another dig.

In case it is the former. A 49 fight undefeated is not unheard of in boxing. It's not even close the record for longest undefeated streak. Those kinds of streaks don't happen in top level MMA. Fighter rarely go past streak 10 fights once they are at the UFC level, the record is 16.
Travis Fulton has a 40 fight streak, he isn't one of the greats.

THere's nothing in Mayweather's record comparable to Conor's match with Diaz. He never gives up an edge like that. It would be like him taking a fight with GGG. He wouldn't win.
And Conor early losses are when he was a novice, comparable with amateur level in a boxers career - where Mayweather has losses.

The fact is, Mayweather has more twice as many (6) losses in the ring as Conor.
Now I'm not suggesting that means anything,I'm highlighting the ridiculousness of comparing records in different sports.


if the greatest of all times is defined by a record. Then Aleksandr Karelin crushes everyone. 887 wins and 2 losses.

No i was just commenting on professional records tbh..no dig in the slightest...my comment about him defending the title is absolutely true..id much rather see him do that than entertain nonsense like this Mayweather thing

But you've a valid point..I do think he's ducking GGG (He'd mince Floyd)

I dont think Conor gave up that much of an advantage..i mean his walk around weight is very close....i just think Diaz is the better fighter (personally)

price690

Mellor wrote: »

Not sure if you are actually think records in different sport are comparable, or if just having another dig.

In case it is the former. A 49 fight undefeated is not unheard of in boxing. It's not even close the record for longest undefeated streak. Those kinds of streaks don't happen in top level MMA. Fighter rarely go past streak 10 fights once they are at the UFC level, the record is 16.
Travis Fulton has a 40 fight streak, he isn't one of the greats.

THere's nothing in Mayweather's record comparable to Conor's match with Diaz. He never gives up an edge like that. It would be like him taking a fight with GGG. He wouldn't win.
And Conor early losses are when he was a novice, comparable with amateur level in a boxers career - where Mayweather has losses.

The fact is, Mayweather has more twice as many (6) losses in the ring as Conor.
Now I'm not suggesting that means anything,I'm highlighting the ridiculousness of comparing records in different sports.


if the greatest of all times is defined by a record. Then Aleksandr Karelin crushes everyone. 887 wins and 2 losses.

I'm no Mayweather fan but c'mon. My biggest issue with him is his entertainment value in ring. You can respect the art watching what he does, the guy couples supreme talent with the hunger of a contender.

Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo (twice-one being his most contentious win), prime Demarcus Corley, Arturo Gatti, Zab Judah, De La Hoya (at 154), Ricky Hatton (who was unbeaten), Juan Manuel Marquez, Miguel Cotto, Maidana twice, Saul Alvarez (again at 154). The guy has a superb resume like it or not.

Conor stepping up to fight nate diaz is not akin to Mayweather stepping up to fight GGG. Its more akin to Floyd stepping up to middleweight to fight the likes of Billy Joe Saunders or Matthew Macklin in all honesty. Diaz isn't even a top lightweight never mind welterweight.

And you know what, as much as I don't like him Mayweather would probably win a 12 round shut out against Macklin or Saunders.

Anyway thats neither here nor there

price690

Depp wrote: »

I wish i was allowed to watch mcgregors sparring sessions the way you are, then maybe id know what level his boxing is as well as you do!

He has said it himself, he has divided his time between various disciplines so reading between the lines he simply cant have put in the hours to hone his boxing to the level he would need in order to be competitive and we are talking the elite level. Its not an insult, the guy had no real pedigree on the amateur boxing scene in Ireland either before he took up MMA.

You don't need to stretch too far into your imagination to figure out he would come up short against seasoned professional boxers, let alone probably the best on the planet.

Cathy.C

Good interview earlier.

Favourite comment: "[Conor] got boxed up, he didn't get tapped out - he got beat up".

For anyone that missed it live..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP1B0sSW704

Who was the sparring partner of Conor's that Nate said (at 23m30s) he should go and 'beat his ass' for talking s*** about him?

Didn't get who he was referring to there. Anyone know who that was and also what it was that the guy said?

price690

pone2012 wrote: »

No i was just commenting on professional records tbh..no dig in the slightest...my comment about him defending the title is absolutely true..id much rather see him do that than entertain nonsense like this Mayweather thing

But you've a valid point..I do think he's ducking GGG (He'd mince Floyd)

I dont think Conor gave up that much of an advantage..i mean his walk around weight is very close....i just think Diaz is the better fighter (personally)

The guy started out as a super featherweight. How is he ducking a guy who is middleweight champion? Mayweather for all of his detractors can barely pack on enough pounds to hit 150lbs even when fighting at light middleweight?

And hes ducking a guy who will more than likely end up fighting super middleweights and light heavyweights in time? He will fight Andre Ward and Sergey Kovalev somewhere down the line.

Is McGregor ducking Robbie Lawlor? He probably would give it a crack in fairness to him but if he didn't fancy it would you consider that ducking him?

Depp

price690 wrote: »

He has said it himself, he has divided his time between various disciplines so reading between the lines he simply cant have put in the hours to hone his boxing to the level he would need in order to be competitive and we are talking the elite level. Its not an insult, the guy had no real pedigree on the amateur boxing scene in Ireland either before he took up MMA.

You don't need to stretch too far into your imagination to figure out he would come up short against seasoned professional boxers, let alone probably the best on the planet.

never said hed win, just think saying hes a 'novice level boxer' is a bit ridiculous, he never beats floyd without unbelieveable luck but saying floyd knocks him out easily like some randomer off the street is a bit silly