Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

finglashoop

degsie wrote: »

Didn't he just walk away from a guaranteed $10M?

No. The ufc took that ten mil away because they called his bluff.

He played the game , imo , was actually right, and he lost. He will make the money on his next fight. I think his draw just got bigger over all this

degsie

finglashoop wrote: »

No. The ufc took that ten mil away because they called his bluff.

He played the game , imo , was actually right, and he lost. He will make the money on his next fight. I think his draw just got bigger over all this

Didn't think messing his fans around with nonsense tweets would make him more endearing. I suppose the proof of the pudding will be his next fight and the amount of 'draw' this will have.

finglashoop

degsie wrote: »

Didn't think messing his fans around with nonsense tweets would make him more endearing. I suppose the proof of the pudding will be his next fight and the amount of 'draw' this will have.

People who dislike him will be even more eager to see diaz punch his face into the mat. Fans and idiots who somehow think he was right and the ufc messed them around Wil be more vociferous.

Win win for the gate, ppv, ufc, dana and mcgregor.

Saipanne

degsie wrote: »

Didn't think messing his fans around with nonsense tweets would make him more endearing. I suppose the proof of the pudding will be his next fight and the amount of 'draw' this will have.

The amount is 'huge'. A few heartbroken fans won't make a dent in his rise.

degsie

Saipanne wrote: »

The amount is 'huge'. A few heartbroken fans won't make a dent in his rise.

So, in short, he can do no wrong.

Saipanne

degsie wrote: »

So, in short, he can do no wrong.

Different topic entirely. You surely know this... right?

Carroller

Someone needs to take Conors phone off of him...

Saipanne

Carroller wrote: »

Someone needs to take Conors phone off of him...

What is he doing? Fighting with randomers...

Zero-Cool

Good to hear Conor's thoughts on twitter interacting with fans and haters alike.

nehe milner skudder

You wouldn't see Brian o Driscoll or Rory Mcilroy carrying on like this.

Lukker-

https://www.instagram.com/p/BE5K8vmpXbC/

Nate's looking like a Welter Weight these days. He looks as heavy as Nick, and a few inches taller too. UFC have them both down as 6"0 on their website but Nate is at least 6"2.

Subcomandante Marcos

Zero-Cool wrote: »

Good to hear Conor's thoughts on twitter interacting with fans and haters alike.

Conor's latest tweets seen desperate.

When the tank goes, no amount of skill can save you.

Your tank didn't go dude, you got rocked with a combo and were on wobble street until you shot a double out of desperation because you knew the end of the round was too far away.

Awesomeness

nehe milner skudder wrote: »

You wouldn't see Brian o Driscoll or Rory Mcilroy carrying on like this.

You see athletes doing q&a sessions on twitter and facebook all the time

Subcomandante Marcos

Lukker- wrote: »

https://www.instagram.com/p/BE5K8vmpXbC/

Nate's looking like a Welter Weight these days. He looks as heavy as Nick, and a few inches taller too. UFC have them both down as 6"0 on their website but Nate is at least 6"2.

Nate is nowhere near 6'2".

He was not anything like 5+ inches taller than Conor in their fight, Conor is a generous 5'9".

Cathy.C

finglashoop wrote: »

He has a say. He doesn't make the decisions though.

You're backtracking. You said it was the UFC that "decide who and when" McGregor fights and now you're admitting that he 'has a say'. Grand, not sure what took you so long though, as it's quite obvious that the UFC doesn't always get their own way when it comes to them choosing who a fighter's opponents will be. I'm sure they would have loved if Nate had fought whoever the hell Dana had chosen for him to fight at 200 but he is not going to, is he? Which, incidentally, I would say annoyed Lorenzo as had Nate fought another fighter at 200 then that really would have been showing Conor but Nate didn't and so that he/they didn't have it all their own way at all.

As for it all being about money and power... of course it is but there was only ever going to be one winner when a millionaire goes toe to toe with a billionaire (Lorenzo). Doesn't make Conor totally powerless though. Has to rankle with Lorenzo that someone he is having a power struggle with is still the biggest PPV draw for his company and that fighters are turning down slots on the biggest night in UFC history just to fight that fighter on another card.

UFC don't exactly come away from this smelling of roses either. Reprimanding Conor so publicly, in such a disproportionate way, they might very well have won the battle, but they have far from won the war and are also far from unscathed, in an overall sense at least. Yes, they will lose out on $40m or so but more than that, they have also come across as quite amateurish in how they have dealt with this situation. There is a reason that most professional sports fine their stars for missing certain events, not meeting their obligations etc and that is because it works and also because there is little consequence the for the sport or its fans when they do that.

What the UFC did however was grossly cut off their own nose to spite their own face. They publicly deflated one of their most vocal stars, in a way which would be akin to a circus showing a video each night of how they inject sedation into their man eating lions before each show. McGregor's bark won't seem as fierce now when they wheel him out on Conan and Kimmel. End result being that they saw to that their main star would miss their main event and quite simply, it would not happen in any other sport, be that a heavyweight boxing champion getting pulled from a world title bout, or a football star being pulled from a European Cup Final. Baby, bath water and all that.

Lukker-

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Nate is nowhere near 6'2".

He was not anything like 5+ inches taller than Conor in their fight, Conor is a generous 5'9".

He's at least an inch bigger than Nick in that photo though with worse posture, he's at least 6"1, closer to 6"2. He was a good bit taller then Cerrone who is listed as 6"0 too.

lougal88

"They all are the same. They go in, we exchange, they panic. When a human panics, the first thing they do is grab.

“When they’re hit, whether they train for it or not, they grab. I’m facing a panicked wrestler like I always face.”

- Conor McGregor : 2015.

Lukker-

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Conor's latest tweets seen desperate.



Your tank didn't go dude, you got rocked with a combo and were on wobble street until you shot a double out of desperation because you knew the end of the round was too far away.

He gassed in the first round. He was pale as a ghost on the stool in corner. He is a 1 or 2 round fighter normally, he threw everything he had in that first round looking for a KO and punched himself out.

nehe milner skudder

He was a skinny fat gazelle before the fight.



Now he is the taller heavier man. an Adonis.

Subcomandante Marcos

Lukker- wrote: »

He gassed in the first round. He was pale as a ghost on the stool in corner. He is a 1 or 2 round fighter normally, he threw everything he had in that first round looking for a KO and punched himself out.

He was sucking in air but that's not why he lost the fight. He lost the fight because he was leaving his chin hanging out and Diaz started teeing off on him with combos from about 2.53 left in the wound onwards and McGregor knew he couldn't take it anymore and shot a double.

Lukker-

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

He was sucking in air but that's not why he lost the fight. He lost the fight because he was leaving his chin hanging out and Diaz started teeing off on him with combos from about 2.53 left in the wound onwards and McGregor knew he couldn't take it anymore and shot a double.

Of course he got wobbled. But shots land much heavier when you don't have energy, it makes it harder to slip punches and keep your hands up. You don't lose by simply gassing out, it's what follows that decides it.

finglashoop

Cathy.C wrote: »

You're backtracking. You said it was the UFC that "decide who and when" McGregor fights and now you're admitting that he 'has a say'. Grand, not sure what took you so long though, as it's quite obvious that the UFC doesn't always get their own way when it comes to them choosing who a fighter's opponents will be. I'm sure they would have loved if Nate had fought whoever the hell Dana had chosen for him to fight at 200 but he is not going to, is he? Which, incidentally, I would say annoyed Lorenzo as had Nate fought another fighter at 200 then that really would have been showing Conor but Nate didn't and so that he/they didn't have it all their own way at all.

As for it all being about money and power... of course it is but there was only ever going to be one winner when a millionaire goes toe to toe with a billionaire (Lorenzo). Doesn't make Conor totally powerless though. Has to rankle with Lorenzo that someone he is having a power struggle with is still the biggest PPV draw for his company and that fighters are turning down slots on the biggest night in UFC history just to fight that fighter on another card.

UFC don't exactly come away from this smelling of roses either. Reprimanding Conor so publicly, in such a disproportionate way, they might very well have won the battle, but they have far from won the war and are also far from unscathed, in an overall sense at least. Yes, they will lose out on $40m or so but more than that, they have also come across as quite amateurish in how they have dealt with this situation. There is a reason that most professional sports fine their stars for missing certain events, not meeting their obligations etc and that is because it works and also because there is little consequence the for the sport or its fans when they do that.

What the UFC did however was grossly cut off their own nose to spite their own face. They publicly deflated one of their most vocal stars, in a way which would be akin to a circus showing a video each night of how they inject sedation into their man eating lions before each show. McGregor's bark won't seem as fierce now when they wheel him out on Conan and Kimmel. End result being that they saw to that their main star would miss their main event and quite simply, it would not happen in any other sport, be that a heavyweight boxing champion getting pulled from a world title bout, or a football star being pulled from a European Cup Final. Baby, bath water and all that.

He has a say. Especially where an opponent drops out and they need a replacement.They cant force anyone into a fight.

A say that ufc can take on board or ignore but ultimately they make a decision. You are overestimating how much sway he holds.

Ufc were there before conor and they'll be there after him. Ans along they way they will have no problem putting him or anyone in their place as that is how they do business. Ufc is the attraction not the fighters

Lukker-

finglashoop wrote: »

He has a say. Especially where an opponent drops out and they need a replacement.They cant force anyone into a fight.

A say that ufc can take on board or ignore but ultimately they make a decision. You are overestimating how much sway he holds.

Ufc were there before conor and they'll be there after him. Ans along they way they will have no problem putting him or anyone in their place as that is how they do business. Ufc is the attraction not the fighters

The numbers don't really back this up. The fact is if Conor or Ronda are on the card it will double the buys.

The UFC can groom new stars but it takes time to build them up and you'd have to imagine they are at least 2 years off bringing through another superstar, whoever that may be.

Even when Weidman was champ he didn't have close to the pull Ronda or Conor did and you'd think he ticks many of the boxes. Undefeated, family man, literally a walking piece of apple pie, the person who dethroned Silva.

Historically the UFC haven't had too many stars that have transcended the sport itself. GSP was one. Brock possibly even though he was short lived and Ronda, Liddel and Silva was probably the biggest of all. He was at one time the biggest sports star in Brazil but after he got popped and lost his title people don't even want to know who he is there.

So I disagree, the UFC itself is part of the attraction but not it needs it's big fighters to prop it up. The show must go on of course but the UFC would very much prefer if that was with Conor.

JustTheOne

finglashoop wrote: »

He has a say. Especially where an opponent drops out and they need a replacement.They cant force anyone into a fight.

A say that ufc can take on board or ignore but ultimately they make a decision. You are overestimating how much sway he holds.

Ufc were there before conor and they'll be there after him. Ans along they way they will have no problem putting him or anyone in their place as that is how they do business. Ufc is the attraction not the fighters

But isn't the ufc kind of in decline the last few years?

Seems to be loosing it's attraction.

darced

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JustTheOne

darced wrote: »

Its on Fox has its own streaming service and sells out everywhere they go. No its not in decline or anything like it.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2014/11/7/7173193/ufc-dana-white-says-UFC-more-than-just-a-ppv-company-mma-news

http://www.lowkickmma.com/UFC/ufc-learned-nothing-boxings-decline/


http://lastwordonsports.com/2014/06/23/dear-dana-ufc-pay-per-view-numbers-declining/


I read articles similar to this about it declining but in fairness that was around 2 years ago, numbers seem to be on the up for some strange reason:)

hatrickpatrick

Dafuq @ today's Twitter O_o

JustTheOne

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Dafuq @ today's Twitter O_o

Answering random questions with crazy answers.

darced

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bmcc10

Must be enjoying his bank holiday weekend looking at his Twitter