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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

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  • #4232
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,386 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    rusty cole wrote: »
    I have to pull ya there, condit is not a better striker than mcgregor, no fecking way. mcgregor is where he is now purely on his efficiency as he admits, nominal output maximum hit rate. his power decimates 145'ers but cannot carry into WW as we seen. I agree, condit is a beast, he's a 6 foot plus lean welter weight who should go over when hit, yet he can take the best out of big rig, lawlor and GSP and still keep truckin!!
    I think condit is one of the greats, a real martial artist, throws left and rights followed by low then high kicks, has a very durable style and savage work rate plus fitness for weeks. He really is the champ that never was.
    Whether one or the other is a technically better striker in their respective division. It's about who hits harder in the WW division.
    Conor is not beating lawlor. Craziness in the thread.
    (I know it wasn't you who said that btw)


  • #4233
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I agree and I know. :o


  • #4234
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    Mellor wrote: »
    I had him beating Hendricks. Johnny broke mentally by the end

    The judges decision that he won with (49-46) was outrages no way did Robbie win 4 rounds in that fight. I'm not a Hendricks fan by any means, I jumped for joy when I heard Robbie got it.


  • #4235
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,386 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    That was only one of the score cards though. (not sure if you meant judge's or judges').
    The other two were 48-47 and 47-48. Those are fair scores imo. Can't have a massive issue 48 to either fighter


  • #4236
    TimRiggins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,137 ✭✭✭TimRiggins


    Mellor wrote: »
    That was only one of the score cards though. (not sure if you meant judge's or judges').
    The other two were 48-47 and 47-48. Those are fair scores imo. Can't have a massive issue 48 to either fighter

    I meant judge really. Maybe it's closer than I thought, I've only watched it once, live, I remember watching and hearing 49-46 and thinking Hendricks won it. Was suprised and delighted when I heard Robbie won.


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  • #4237
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Another day, another social media outburst. Dana said he'll be defending his title next but he doesn't want to. He wants to fight Diaz. When's he going to realise that he is an employee, nothing more??


  • #4238
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    Mellor wrote: »
    Conor is not beating lawlor. Craziness in the thread.
    (I know it wasn't you who said that btw)

    I take it you mean Lawler but nobody said that Conor would beat him or at least I haven't seen anyone say that.

    I mentioned that imo if Conor beats Diaz in the rematch I would see him going on to fight either Lawler or RDA (as I don't see him doing '45 anymore, even if it means he is stripped of his belt). A user replied and said that they hoped it was RDA as Lawler would kill him. Others agreed and when I said I had only seen him fight Condit and that to me he didn't look at that unbeatable, it was recommended that I watch the 189 MacDonald fight (which I have done).

    Not sure where exactly you see the 'craziness' is in that.


  • #4239
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    This McGregor lad is a bit **** isn't he, everyone would destroy him.......boards.ie

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    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #4240
    finglashoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    Lawler would ko him with the first big shot he hit him with. It would just depend how long mcgregor could stay out of the way.

    Both lawler hendricks and the lawlor fight were very close

    Not sure about lawler being lucky thought lawler won the hendricks fight he lost and lost the fight he won. I had condit 3-1 going into round five too. All close fights either way

    Its opinion at the end of the day and judges arent exactly consistent as we know.


  • #4241
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    Nobody gives a f*** about these other fights until this one is settled.
    Cut the bulls**t. Run it back.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BE3N7iTLzpX/


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  • #4242
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Getting a bit desperate now, just seems like he's talking to himself. Just give the social media a break and wait for the UFC to offer you something. Barring an injury or a suspension he's not fighting on UFC 200.


  • #4243
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    Lukker- wrote: »
    Getting a bit desperate now, just seems like he's talking to himself. Just give the social media a break and wait for the UFC to offer you something. Barring an injury or a suspension he's not fighting on UFC 200.

    Yeah, was thinking the same. At least the Stockton Rox type vids have something about them.

    In comparison Nate is posting cool fan graffiti and pics of himself chilling with Van Damme.


  • #4244
    StringerBell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,342 ✭✭✭✭StringerBell


    Who really cares about an immediate rematch though? The first fight was settled pretty conclusively, I don't see a big need to have an immediate rematch. They can fight each other down the line sure no problem once McGregor fulfills his obligation to the FW division, the last fight was a voluntary, he should at this point just do his mandatory and then fight who he wants after that.

    If he wants the Diaz fight so badly then just give up the FW belt, it just isn't right to keep fighting on while not defending it.

    Simplest thing imo is to defend the 145 belt, get that out of the way, then fight Diaz and depending on the outcome he will have options, or he won't.

    If he defends and moves up to fight Diaz and loses again he still has the belt, and he can still take a crack at the LW division after another title defence.

    If the FW champ continues to refuse to defend the FW belt while actively pursuing other fights I think you leave the company with no option but to strip the title.

    "People say ‘go with the flow’ but do you know what goes with the flow? Dead fish."



  • #4245
    Lukker-
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    StringerBell wrote: »
    Who really cares about an immediate rematch though? The first fight was settled pretty conclusively, I don't see a big need to have an immediate rematch. They can fight each other down the line sure no problem once McGregor fulfills his obligation to the FW division, the last fight was a voluntary, he should at this point just do his mandatory and then fight who he wants after that.

    If he wants the Diaz fight so badly then just give up the FW belt, it just isn't right to keep fighting on while not defending it.

    Simplest thing imo is to defend the 145 belt, get that out of the way, then fight Diaz and depending on the outcome he will have options, or he won't.

    If he defends and moves up to fight Diaz and loses again he still has the belt, and he can still take a crack at the LW division after another title defence.

    If the FW champ continues to refuse to defend the FW belt while actively pursuing other fights I think you leave the company with no option but to strip the title.

    Well considering he won't be able to defend the FW title until UFC 204 at the earliest you'd have to imagine he wants to book a fight in the mean time.

    It'd be a bit silly if they gave him someone else from the FW division before Aldo/Edgar considering they are fighting for the interim belt and he probably only has 1 cut left in him.

    It doesn't have to be Diaz, but at this stage Diaz is holding out for Conor as much as Conor is holding out for him and if they booked him to fight any of the other 155ers Diaz wouldn't be too pleased.

    The other possibility is just sitting out until 205 but my guess is he wants to make some money.


  • #4246
    mdwexford
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,293 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Another day, another social media outburst. Dana said he'll be defending his title next but he doesn't want to. He wants to fight Diaz. When's he going to realise that he is an employee, nothing more??

    Don't be naive.

    All "employees" are not created equally.


  • #4247
    finglashoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    mdwexford wrote: »
    Don't be naive.

    All "employees" are not created equally.

    Thats true but they all equally remain as employees.

    Mc gregor seems to ignore who is the boss in this situation. UFC will give him a fight so both parties make money. They'll decide who and when.


  • #4248
    mdwexford
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,293 ✭✭✭✭mdwexford


    finglashoop wrote: »
    Thats true but they all equally remain as employees.

    Mc gregor seems to ignore who is the boss in this situation. UFC will give him a fight so both parties make money. They'll decide who and when.

    To a certain degree, McGregor has a lot more pull than any other fighter and can have a decent input on his fights.

    Its not in either of their best interests to let this mess escalate any further.

    Dana said he will be fighting soon though but realistically Aldo/Edgar wont be ready to unify until around December. Only option then is to take a fight at Lightweight or "Welterweight".


  • #4249
    LaGlisse
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 486 ✭✭LaGlisse


    Someone needs to start posting "hope you're OK hun" underneath these social media posts,thats the level he is descending to.


  • #4250
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    finglashoop wrote: »
    Mc gregor seems to ignore who is the boss in this situation. UFC will give him a fight so both parties make money. They'll decide who and when.

    Well, we know that is just not true as Dana is on record as saying that nobody, including the UFC, wanted the rematch and yet he was given it.
    mdwexford wrote: »
    Don't be naive.

    All "employees" are not created equally.

    Indeed and we also know this is the case with the UFC as Dana has made it quite clear that Conor was granted the rematch because of he has conducted himself within the UFC. In particular to how he has gone the extra mile and saved cards after fighters have pulled out on him late on in the day. Not sure why anyone would bother trying to make a point to the contrary when even the UFC don't.


  • #4251
    noc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭noc1980


    If he wasn't going to actually retire then he should have showed up at the press conference. No point in making a stand just this once, as he's going to have to attend them for his next scheduled bout or face the very same consequences.


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  • #4252
    finglashoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    Cathy.C wrote: »
    Well, we know that is just not true as Dana is on record as saying that nobody, including the UFC, wanted the rematch and yet he was given it.



    Indeed and we also know this is the case with the UFC as Dana has made it quite clear that Conor was granted the rematch because of he has conducted himself within the UFC. In particular to how he has gone the extra mile and saved cards after fighters have pulled out on him late on in the day. Not sure why anyone would bother trying to make a point to the contrary when even the UFC don't.

    Dana wants money. If the ufc didnt want it they wouldnt make it. So regardless what they say its what they do that matters.

    Every time someone pulls out of any fight the fighter has a massive advantage as they usually have a fight camp behind them while the person stepping in has a month or two weeks to fight. This is the case with conor as it is with everyone. His undoing was his own ego and going so high in weight.

    Not sure whether you are an mma fan or just a mcgregor fan but try and be objective.


  • #4253
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    finglashoop wrote: »
    Dana wants money. If the ufc didnt want it they wouldnt make it. So regardless what they say its what they do that matters.

    I never suggested they money wasn't a factor. Pointless comment considering I said nothing to the contrary. Of course money is a factor.
    Every time someone pulls out of any fight the fighter has a massive advantage as they usually have a fight camp behind them while the person stepping in has a month or two weeks to fight. This is the case with conor as it is with everyone. His undoing was his own ego and going so high in weight.

    It can be at times (overstated with regards to Nate I feel though) but the point was that Dana has has said, long before this spat, that Conor wanted the Nate rematch, not them, and that because he has stepped up for them on late notice before, they (the UFC) were giving it to him. You said that UFC are his boss and they'll decide who he fights but that's just not true and particularly when it comes to fighters with a lot of PPV power. You'd want to be fierce naive to think that fighters with the kind financial clout that McGregor has doesn't get to have a say in who he fights.


  • #4254
    Cathy.C
    Closed Accounts Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Cathy.C


    noc1980 wrote: »
    If he wasn't going to actually retire then he should have showed up at the press conference. No point in making a stand just this once, as he's going to have to attend them for his next scheduled bout or face the very same consequences.

    Saying that he is going to have to attend pressers anyway for the rematch or face the consequences, misses the point by a country mile.

    It's not as if he asked to miss the first four to five weeks of promotion for all fights, he asked for that leeway on one fight. As (for whatever reason) he did not feel that he could do the early press & promo stuff now and have sufficiently trained to fight Nate on July 9th. The rematch will now take place a good while later and the press promo stuff won't start for a long while after he had said he was more than willing to start it for 200... and so why would he have an issue with promoting it? Quite clearly he won't and anyone that thinks he will, hasn't been paying attention.

    Not to mention the fact that he had just been hounded no doubt by RTE (and the rest of the sanctimonious Irish media) for further comment on the Ward / Joao fight. No wonder he went to Portugal / Iceland for a couple of weeks and didn't feel like doing the Tim & Suzie morning shows. Come the pressers and promos for the rematch, whenever the hell that may be, I'm sure McGregor won't have an issue with dancing like a monkey once again.


  • #4255
    Utopia Parkway
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,015 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


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  • #4256
    WarZ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭WarZ


    It has been pointed out that Connor McGregor no longer follows Ido Portal on twitter. It would appear the two have fallen out and the Ido Portal coaching experience is over.


  • #4257
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    WarZ wrote: »
    It has been pointed out that Connor McGregor no longer follows Ido Portal on twitter. It would appear the two have fallen out and the Ido Portal coaching experience is over.

    Who's he gonna play touch butt with now??


  • #4258
    WarZ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 972 ✭✭✭WarZ


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Who's he gonna play touch butt with now??

    Hopefully touch butt will be replaced with wrestling/jiu jitsu/boxing etc. and it will be coached by actual coaches not some dork from Israel who likes to play with candles and stand on his head.

    Connor can bounce back from his embarrassing loss to Diaz but in order to do so he needs to remain highly focused. There should be no more people like Ido Portal in his coaching circle.

    I am glad the Ido Portal fiasco is finally over. It will be interesting to see how Connor gets on in his next fight.


  • #4259
    finglashoop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭finglashoop


    Cathy.C wrote: »
    I never suggested they money wasn't a factor. Pointless comment considering I said nothing to the contrary. Of course money is a factor.



    It can be at times (overstated with regards to Nate I feel though) but the point was that Dana has has said, long before this spat, that Conor wanted the Nate rematch, not them, and that because he has stepped up for them on late notice before, they (the UFC) were giving it to him. You said that UFC are his boss and they'll decide who he fights but that's just not true and particularly when it comes to fighters with a lot of PPV power. You'd want to be fierce naive to think that fighters with the kind financial clout that McGregor has doesn't get to have a say in who he fights.

    He has a say. He doesn't make the decisions though. This whole thing is about power and mcgregor isnt winning. UFC do things to suit ufc regardless of who you are. When mc gregor done all they asked, and possibly more than they asked, everything was great. Now he pushes back and they show him who is in charge.

    Money is the main factor and they are prepared to lose a lot to prove this point


  • #4260
    CSF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,478 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    I don't get the thing about people complaining about Conor pushing for the fight he wants first. He will be fighting Edgar/Aldo in the near future and with them fighting at 200 he can't fight them soon after anyway.

    Some people would literally look for any stick to beat him with.

    He's only an employee so he shouldn't leverage his worth to the organisation as much as possible. Right.


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  • #4261
    degsie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,761 ✭✭✭degsie


    Lukker- wrote: »

    The other possibility is just sitting out until 205 but my guess is he wants to make some money.

    Didn't he just walk away from a guaranteed $10M?


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