MotoGP 2016 News & Chat

h3000

lolie wrote: »

Why is there spoilers for a race that took place yesterday ?

Some people may have not seen the race yet.

Max Headroom

Entertaining motogp race...although i cant understand why the red flagged it ONLY when Rossi started to get duffed up...:rolleyes:..
Miller was excellent through all sessions and deserved the win..and i was glad to see Redding on the podium after his good performance before the rossi sorry red flag..Marquez was delighted just to finish i think....Lorenzo..

h3000

Max Headroom wrote: »

Entertaining motogp race...although i cant understand why the red flagged it ONLY when Rossi started to get duffed up...:rolleyes:..
Miller was excellent through all sessions and deserved the win..and i was glad to see Redding on the podium after his good performance before the rossi sorry red flag..Marquez was delighted just to finish i think....Lorenzo..

That's ridiculous Max

Pugzilla

I don't understand how a world champion can be that bad in the wet.

h3000

Pugzilla wrote: »

I don't understand how a world champion can be that bad in the wet.

Jorge? He is never a big fan of the wet. He broke his collarbone in Assen (2013?) too. He probably has no confidence there too.

Max Headroom

h3000 wrote: »

That's ridiculous Max

Is it though.....;)

h3000

Max Headroom wrote: »

Is it though.....;)

Ah it is though. Race control tried to keep the race going as long as it was safe to do so. They probably should have stopped the race a lap or two earlier. To say it had anything to do with Rossi is a bit Tin foil hat

Pugzilla

Rossi now needs Marquez to have 2 DNFs and avoid anymore himself to have any chance.

Max Headroom

h3000 wrote: »

Ah it is though. Race control tried to keep the race going as long as it was safe to do so. They probably should have stopped the race a lap or two earlier. To say it had anything to do with Rossi is a bit Tin foil hat

Theyre were all doing fine in the rain..The Hondas were catching up..Redding passes Rossi ..3 Ducati on the podium(possibly) then theres a red flag.....:o
Still delighted for the podium...something different..

h3000

Max Headroom wrote: »

Theyre were all doing fine in the rain..The Hondas were catching up..Redding passes Rossi ..3 Ducati on the podium(possibly) then theres a red flag.....:o
Still delighted for the podium...something different..

Redding, Dovi, Smith, Marquez and Bradl (and I'm sure more) all said the red flag was the correct decision. The could not see some of the curbs on the track and could not see more than an couple of feet on the straight. Redding said he could not see Marc on the straights and he was only about a second ahead.

frostie500

I was texting a couple of the Moto2/WSBK riders during the race and they all said "Race should be red flagged cos the track is too dangerous" and that was from a lap or two before it happened. Race Control made the right call on when to put out the flag and it'll always help some riders and hinder others but, and this comes from having lots of dealings with Mike Webb the race director, he won't make a call like this based on anything other than facts and seeing some riders struggle won't be enough to make him bring out the red.

Jorge has a lot of scar tissue in the wet and an awful lot of that comes from Assen 2013. He had to do something completely superhuman to come back 48 hours after breaking his collarbone to race that weekend but the mental toll of that was huge and cost him a lot of energy even the following season

frostie500

For anyone interested there's a few of my scribblings online from Assen....

Is Miller's path to MotoGP one we can expect to see followed by more riders?

And a review of the weekend

CJhaughey

I think that race should have been red flagged earlier, I know the kind of commercial pressures that come to bear on race direction and scheduling etc all play a part but the rain was exceptionally heavy and as this is the first real test of Michelin Wet tyres it should have been factored in as part of the race.
Mike Webb was instituting a kind of outside the box thinktank after the debacle in Sachenring in 2014 where Bradl was the only rider on the grid on wets.
What happened to that groupthink? did it die due to commercial pressure on Dorna or was it just not practical to think of alternatives?
New procedures seem to be working, the quickstart procedure has been adopted and seems to be working well. RD just need to have a few more possible scenarios that they can fall back on during the season, some might be outlandish but others should be easy enough to work towards.
Motegi is quite often wet as are other tracks in higher latitudes and a heavy wet plan B should be easy enough to implement.
When it comes to safety the riders safety should take primacy over commercial interests.

tommyboy26

shocker of a weekend so far for lorenzo

CJhaughey

That MotoGP race was a very entertaining race and really calls into question the return of Intermediate tyres, I don't think many but MM could have done what he did to get that amount of heat into his tyres from the outset.
In all fairness to him he was a lot better in those conditions than anyone else and the times showed that.
Apparently Honda have decided to ignore the intermediates, to them there are only slicks and rain tyres to pick from for the race. This may have helped MM as when he swapped bikes he knew that he had to hammer heat into them from the outset, however it takes big balls to cane a slick tyre on a wet track with a narrow dry line, one mistake and its goodnight Irene.
He didn't make that mistake though and the difference between him and the rest results in a handsome lead going to the summer break.
Crutchlow also surprised me with his turn of pace and lack of crashing.
Redding must have been bitterly disappointed with his result, he looked so close to a 2nd and to be caught so close to the line must really hurt.

legrand

imagine if Eugene came in and got slicks the same time as MM. Solid result but one can only dream..cutting through the field for a podium finish :rolleyes:

CJhaughey

legrand wrote: »

imagine if Eugene came in and got slicks the same time as MM. Solid result but one can only dream..cutting through the field for a podium finish :rolleyes:

Eugene has nothing to be ashamed about, he is going into the break in the top 10, he has had some very good finishes on that bike.
He is currently just behind the two factory Ducati's of Dovi and Iannone.
There is a factory Suzuki rider behind him.
Not a bad position at all TBH.

legrand

totally agree - was just indulging in some fantasy of a dream result

tommyboy26

was delighted for cal it was a well deserved podium for him his over take of iannoe was excellent . was gutted for redding you could see the disappointment on his face afterwards.

lorenzo seems to lost all confidence in himself or the bike. he is having a shocking time lately.

the ride of the day for me was pawi in the moto 3 race that kid is awesome in the wet

CJhaughey

tommyboy26 wrote: »

the ride of the day for me was pawi in the moto 3 race that kid is awesome in the wet

From the last few years the Asia-pacific riders seem to be streets ahead of the Euro riders in wet conditions.
Anthony West, Stoner,Pawi, Khairuddin are all super in the wet.
Lorenzo is already in Ducatiland in his head.

tommyboy26

bt sports will no longer be available on virgin from 1st of aug.

suggestions of how to watch?

virgin was handy as i recorded everything and watched at my own leisure

h3000

tommyboy26 wrote: »

bt sports will no longer be available on virgin from 1st of aug.

suggestions of how to watch?

virgin was handy as i recorded everything and watched at my own leisure

https://secure.motogp.com/en/subscribe

Is probably your only option if you don't/can't get BTSPORT.

tommyboy26

h3000 wrote: »

https://secure.motogp.com/en/subscribe

Is probably your only option if you don't/can't get BTSPORT.

Do u use it

h3000

tommyboy26 wrote: »

Do u use it

No my internet connection is far too crap to use it. A few other guys here use it though and say great things about it.

CJhaughey

BT sports is free if you have Eir broadband and a Sky sub.
I have been streaming it in shíte quality for the last 6 mths but might jump ship from Sky to Eir and take advantage of their introductory offer.

Pugzilla

Pirate it

CJhaughey

Pugzilla wrote: »

Pirate it

I'd do that but its hard to beat watching it on TV in HD realtime, not streaming in poor quality or torrenting it to watch later.

Hotblack Desiato

h3000 wrote: »

No my internet connection is far too crap to use it. A few other guys here use it though and say great things about it.

I must measure the actual throughput on it sometime but IIRC the stated requirement for it is 2Mbit and the lower quality settings should use less. There are a few quality settings available, up to 720p.

h3000

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

I must measure the actual throughput on it sometime but IIRC the stated requirement for it is 2Mbit and the lower quality settings should use less. There are a few quality settings available, up to 720p.

My connection is well below 1Mb anytime even remotely peak traffic times.


My exchange is finally due to be upgraded next month though......hopefully

h3000

Bradl is off to WSBK
http://m.crash.net/motogp/news/232388/1/stefan-bradl-confirms-motogp-exit.html