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Football Manager 2016
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That's the only approach I've taken on FM for years and years. I'm just ready to start the 2033/34 season, winning 3 of the last 5 Premier Leagues (finishing 3rd the other two times) and in 2031/32 I won the Champions League.alright lads i've resigned myself to never getting money from the club to make any decent moves to get out of the championship. I've taken tranmere from conference to championship in 3 years and finished comfortably mid table in my first year there. I'll have to go down the buying kids and developing in training etc.
Still waiting on a new stadium though, apparently you need to wait 20 years from your last one being built and FCUM's is listed as being built in 2015. It's at 20,000 capacity so not TOO bad but because of it but has meant I have needed to keep a wage cap of about 50-60k a year until now. I've got about 1.3bn Euros in the bank and am crossing my fingers in 2035 I get the green light to build a 60,000+ seater!
If you've got them two promotions try using the "after all I have done for this club this is the least you could do" line, I have to use that for seemingly every little last thing - including every single youth/training upgrade (along with stadium capacity and the academy stuff, the most important part of the whole game).0 -
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They've been up and down... City won the league something like 6 times in a row while I was getting my promotions, but they've come backHow are MU doing in that save?
That's always been a hang up of mine though, in all my years playing FM I have never, ever seen United be the dominant team in England. I can see the sense in City/Chelsea (money) doing so in the game, but for some reason Arsenal and even Liverpool have a tendency to become absolute behemoths while Man Utd flounder in midtable. Man Utd's youth players also get rated a lot lower than others on average, which is also frustrating. /Rant.
Actually Spurs won the CL twice in a row with Pocchetino! But then he left for Atletico (where he won all of the things) and they got relegated and stayed down for 3 seasons almost right away! Liverpool even got relegated too, and Everton have been outside the Premiership for a good 10 years (even dipping to League One at one point!) :eek: . Pocchetino went to Man Utd 2-3 seasons ago and they have gone from missing the CL two years in a row, to winning the league on 97 points last year.
I also sold a player to PSG for about 230mn Euro (to be fair he was just gone 21 and a god-like DM/CM)!! :pac:
I have been using the 'FM Speeder' tool so I can go through a full season in a few hours which is why I have got that far - I find it interesting to see how things develop. It's also nice to see people win the WPOTY award who are not named Messi or Neymar.
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Jimmy Rabbitte Snr wrote: »I have the same problem at Leeds. Just starting my 6th season, making steady progress. 1st season beaten in the playoff finals. 2nd, won the Championship. The next two seasons in the PL finished 12th and 10th, and 5th season just finished, we've just qualified for the Champions League finishing 4th. Any time a bid comes in for a player they throw the toys out of the pram and want out. Or as soon as they haven't played 3 or 4 games they want to leave for first team football. Still though, enjoying this one and am at the point of having funds to make the big signings. Had 3 seasons of loan deals and free transfers. Although all of the original hot prospects at the start of the game now (Embolo, Zivcovic, Tielemans etc.) are now moving clubs for 40 million plus so cant get them real big names. Did manage to sign Martial in season 4, scored over 20 goals and then Arsenal met his minimum fee clause which gave me a 15million profit. He's spent season 5 on the bench for them. Great game, addiction fully reignited.
Two suggestions, re transfers:
1. Take the "we will sell you if they match our valuation" route, and put a very high valuation on them. Even if it's an absurdly high figure for someone you can't afford to lose, it tends to keep them happy enough. And in my save, it led to PSG buying a DM off my for about 250mn Euros.
2. On contracts, I always just deny the request, then talk with them and say "time left on your deal" and 99% of them time they are fine there. Also I tend to ask someone to sack their agent every time they ask, to a have a squad with less aggressive agents and (pure theory on my part, not if it is coded in) stopping players from developing too close a relationship with their agents.
One that irritates me is players not getting used after being bought. I bought a RB from Shamrock Rovers for 100k in my FC United save when in the Championship. Got promoted with him as a teenage starter, where he did well and got in the Irish squad. First season in the Premiership he was only OK (6.95 rating or something) but cemented himself as starting Irish RB. Third season, he was playing out of his mind (something like an 8.10 rating by January, for a team that were by far the biggest relegation favourites in the league), and Man Utd came in with a 32mn Euro bid. I had such a small club (12,000 seater stadium, wage bill of about 8mn Euro a year which was about 1/6th the size of the next smallest wage bill, about 8-9 players in my 21/22 man squad were loanees, and my highest paid player was on 12k a week!) that this was MEGA money. I had rejected a smaller offer from them in the summer, and if I recall had also rejected a lower bid from them a few days previous. Man Utd really, really, really wanted his guy.
I immediately accepted the offer, and also managed to get an incentive for a few more million if he got 10 more games for Ireland (by now he had 30-odd caps at 21 years of age). Having paid such a high fee for the guy in the middle of the season, Man United went on to play him for... exactly 0 minutes. In 2.5 years. Not one game. I checked at first too, and not even a place on the bench even once from what I could see.
It would be like if Man Utd had spent 30mn+ Euro on Mahrez or Vardy back in January, and immediately put them in the reserves never to play again. I wouldn't really mind if it was a one off, and it doesn't seem as bad as in some of the previous games, but it really grates me seeing clubs regularly spending huge money on players and dumping them in the reserves for 2-3 years to rot, then releasing them years later having only even given them maybe 3-4 subs appearances in their whole time there.
I think the guy is a squaddie in the Championship/League One by now at about 30 years of age.
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I've found that promises are a terrible idea most often (some exceptions, like a not-quite-there-yet teen with 5-star potential who you'll then need to shoe-horn in to some appearances to avoid a Man Utd/Pogba situation), they're tricky to keep track of an almost always come back to haunt you. The worst is the 'give you games in the next month' bit - if you do that near the end of the season or just before an int'l break they'll come back saying you broke your promise... even if you didn't play a single game in that time!!Dolph Starbeam wrote: »That happens constantly in my games, so many players have gone to Bayern and Real and played 20 or 30 games in total for 3 or 4 seasons and they end up being sold for 1/4 of what they were bought for.
I'll have to try your tactic on the transfer and contract offers. If a player asks once I normally just tell him to hold out until the end of the season, if they ask a second time I usually just sell because I don't want someone at the club who doesn't want to be there. Even if its my favourite player if he asks to leave I'll fall out with them and not play them as much. I take the game too much to heart.
The detail they put into relationship management and such is great (and really important, Ferguson was one of the best managers ever and it's the crux of what he built his career on - he was average at best tactically, to be honest), but I've learned to try and gloss over or cut out some of it dismissively like that because it can lead to major issues.
If you do it right, it's pretty simple - in my FC United save I have won 4 of the last 6 Premier leagues 3 of the last 6 FA Cups, 1 Carling Cup, 1 CL and got to 1 CL more final. My squad is almost exclusively World Class players, or youngsters with WC potential. I love to buy U21s, put them on the longest contract I am allowed, and to add the '3yr optional extension' part, because if you get an 18 year old on 20k a week with a 15% annual increase, that can turn into an 80mn Euro World Class player on under 100k for 8 years, at which point you can decide to cash in or pay them proper. It also means you'll be in nearly all of their favoured personnel, which makes negotiations and convincing them to ditch agents extremely easy (nobody has refused to get rid of their agent for me in a good 5-6 years!).
For all those WC players on my squad, only two guys are on over 100k (Euro) a week - one is the best striker in the world, most expensive player in the world, and one of the best strikers I've ever seen in any FM game ever (he's a regen but I'll post a screenshot of his stats on the weekend, it's absurd) and the other is a World Class DM/CM with a career avg rating of about 7.65 who was on the world team of the year the last two seasons running. My stadium will be 20 years old after the season I just started and I have over 1bn in the bank, so hopefully I can get a massive new stadium ASAP because I've a tonne of contracts up in the next 2-3 seasons (but none at the end of this season bar my backup GK) and I've got the squad to win absolutely everything for 7-8 straight seasons at the very least without even needing to make a single purchase. But they'll be looking for big money now, and I can't afford to give them that in a 20,000 seater stadium.
On the plus side re. the 20,000 seater stadium I have an annual allocation of over 18,000 season tickets that's never failed to fill out, so the gaf is packed every week. Think I've only failed to sell out a half dozen or so matches in the last decade. Annually have 100% league attendance, and still comfortably the lower actuall attendance in the top flight. 0
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