Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread V

total former · 15-10-2015 10:10am

phog wrote: »

Earls knockon doesn't mean he's not a centre.

Read it again.

Mr Tickle · 15-10-2015 10:12am

phog wrote: »

Earls knockon doesn't mean he's not a centre.

defensive much? :L

15-10-2015 11:00am

How much Knock
Would a Keith Earls Knock
If a Keith Earls knock knocked on

As much knock
as a Keith Earls Knock
When Keith Earls Knock Knocks on

noway12345 · 15-10-2015 11:45am

I think we could see the centre partnership some of us have been asking for on Sunday. Fitzgerald 12 and Henshaw 13. Exciting. Pity Earls is not on the wing though. It's great to see the strenght in depth, obviously O'Connell and O'Mahony are huge loses but a back 5 in the pack of Toner, Ryan, Henderson, Henry and Heaslip.

rrpc · 15-10-2015 11:52am

noway12345 wrote: »

I think we could see the centre partnership some of us have been asking for on Sunday. Fitzgerald 12 and Henshaw 13. Exciting. Pity Earls is not on the wing though. It's great to see the strenght in depth, obviously O'Connell and O'Mahony are huge loses but a back 5 in the pack of Toner, Ryan, Henderson, Henry and Heaslip.

flagellum equus mortuus :pac:

Interested Observer · 15-10-2015 11:55am

I'm a bit out of the loop, has Earls been ruled out for the weekend?

MJohnston · 15-10-2015 11:57am

He didn't train yesterday, which would normally rule anyone out of playing, but that was then, and we're in the knockouts now.

Greg Feek wrote:

It’s do or die-type stuff so there might be some allowances around a few things, especially with our medical staff and our S&C, they’ve a good feel on things as well

Mr Tickle · 15-10-2015 11:59am

Interested Observer wrote: »

I'm a bit out of the loop, has Earls been ruled out for the weekend?

joe spotted him attempting an offload on sunday so he's been dropped.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 15-10-2015 12:04pm

MJohnston wrote: »

He didn't train yesterday, which would normally rule anyone out of playing, but that was then, and we're in the knockouts now.

Stop brining up his knock on!

fitz · 15-10-2015 12:12pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Stop brining up his knock on!

Yeah, there's no need to keep knocking the lad...

MJohnston · 15-10-2015 12:13pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Stop brining up his knock on!

Ah, knock it off!

15-10-2015 12:22pm

MJohnston wrote: »

Ah, knock it off!

Lad's, he could be reading this - we don't want to knock his confidence.

P.Walnuts · 15-10-2015 12:30pm

Anyone read Francis today in the indo?

A remarkable article

MJohnston · 15-10-2015 12:35pm

Knock Knock
Who's there?
Keith
Keith Who?
Keith, I'm afraid you've failed your concussion protocols and you'll have to come off as head injuries are a serious thing and should not be subject to any kind of humour.

15-10-2015 12:38pm

P.Walnuts wrote: »

Anyone read Francis today in the indo?

A remarkable article

It's like someone sent him the the SOB v PAPE thread and said he had to write an article based on evidence purely contained within those 1086 glorious posts.

fitz · 15-10-2015 12:48pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's like someone sent him the the SOB v PAPE thread and said he had to write an article based on evidence purely contained within those 1086 glorious posts.

The usual over the top guff from Franno.
There is one nugget of a point in there though...cynical foul play getting off scot free because there's a retaliation pisses me off.

irishbucsfan · 15-10-2015 12:50pm

I tried to look up the word "taliate" in the Oxford Concise dictionary. No such word exists. Retaliate? The glossary is full!

Think we missed a trick not having Franno representing us. The man is obviously the legal equivalent of BOD.

dub_skav · 15-10-2015 12:52pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Think we missed a trick not having Franno representing us. The man is obviously the legal equivalent of BOD.

Only if this is the BOD you're talking about:

15-10-2015 1:46pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyr0-JJQ9Oo

fitz · 15-10-2015 2:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyr0-JJQ9Oo

Eh, sorry...just, eh...appear to have something caught in my eye...

Mmf.

BoardsMember · 15-10-2015 2:18pm

fitz wrote: »

The usual over the top guff from Franno.
There is one nugget of a point in there though...cynical foul play getting off scot free because there's a retaliation pisses me off.

I dont think the "because" is right. I don't want to get into the specifics here of the Pape/O'Brien case, but in general the perpetrator of the provocation does not get off because there's a retaliation.

In fact, the provocateur is probably more likely to be sanctioned in a game if there is retaliation - without retaliation it's more likely to go unnoticed, with retaliation the ref/tmo is more likely to look or see the cause. I think we have seen Owens sanction both parties in a big game for this type of thing.

Provocation & retaliation is a tricky one. While the retaliation act does not happen without provocation, you can't absolve the guy who retaliates. If the provocation is minimal then I think you let it go, players have to be able to deal with a little bit of provocation without belting someone. A shove would end the issue, and not need sanction.

fitz · 15-10-2015 2:36pm

Yeah, I probably worded that wrongly.
It pisses me off when the provocation is overshadowed by the retaliation I guess.
Needs to be a mechanism for sanctioning people who are repeatedly at that kind of cynical foul play.
I think the official warning process they've brought in, where accumulated warnings lead to a hearing/sanction, could be very effective if used well.

Pink Fairy · 15-10-2015 3:22pm

Thought there would have been more uproar here over the fact he rates POM as a bigger loss than SOB

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 15-10-2015 4:06pm

fitz wrote: »

Eh, sorry...just, eh...appear to have something caught in my eye...

Mmf.

I don't mean to sound harsh but I wonder is it almost better that it ended the way it did for O'Connell? He didn't know it was his last game, he just went out as if it was any other match and did what he does.

I remember thinking before the WC that it might be weird for him when it gets to the knock out stages because then every time he walks out there's a possibility it will be the last time but he wouldn't have been thinking that at all last weekend.

WarZ · 15-10-2015 4:10pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Stop brining up his knock on!

That was probably the funniest post I have ever read on the rugby forum

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 15-10-2015 4:18pm

https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/654675716395524096

15-10-2015 4:35pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/654675716395524096

Is he "wholly" expected to train and does this mean "very" or just "maybe"?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 15-10-2015 4:41pm

Not to get into a full on Madigan vs Jackson debate but who should start if Sexton can't play?

The only reason I ask is because of Madigan's ability to play multiple positions. If he starts and Jackson is on the bench (along with Reddan) you've really only got one position covered on the bench. I suppose Madigan could shift position if someone else had to go off injured so you're still technically covered....

MJohnston · 15-10-2015 4:43pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Murray_Kinsella/status/654675716395524096

Knock on wood they'll both be okay.

Bazzo · 15-10-2015 4:43pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Not to get into a full on Madigan vs Jackson debate but who should start if Sexton can't play?

The only reason I ask is because of Madigan's ability to play multiple positions. If he starts and Jackson is on the bench (along with Reddan) you've really only got one position covered on the bench. I suppose Madigan could shift position if someone else had to go off injured so you're still technically covered....

Based on his performance vs France it would be very unfair to start Jackson ahead of Madigan. As you said if we need Madigan to cover somewhere else he can just shift out.

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