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Ireland Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread V

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    #152
    rrpc
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    subfreq wrote: »
    Sorry for teh basic question but I totally missed this week who replaced Payne in the squad. Does anyone know?

    Nobody yet. You can safely go back to sleep ;)


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    #153
    Mr Tickle
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    subfreq wrote: »
    Sorry for teh basic question but I totally missed this week who replaced Payne in the squad. Does anyone know?
    nobody yet. The general wisdom seems to be that we have more or less all of the viable centre options in the squad already and are well covered in the backs.
    also they may have been holding out to see if SOB got a longer suspension and might need a new back rower.
    i suppose they'll see where we need cover later in the week or after the QF.


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    #154
    Leslie91
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    MJohnston wrote: »
    This is extremely puzzling, as I could have sworn Henshaw was playing 12 on Sunday...

    He wore the number 12 alright but it did appear he and Earls rotated a bit depending on what France were doing or what we had planned in attack. I still think Henshaw should be our "13" until Ringrose is ready.


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    #155
    rrpc
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    Leslie91 wrote: »
    He wore the number 12 alright but it did appear he and Earls rotated a bit depending on what France were doing or what we had planned in attack. I still think Henshaw should be our "13" until Ringrose is ready.

    He was certainly in the 12 spot when he made his break. Lovely bit of footwork and why I think he's still going to be playing that position.

    Earls needs a bit more space and having Henshaw and Jonny/(Mads) inside him must put defenders in fear and trepidation.


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    #156
    Magico Gonzalez
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    The RWC certainly drags out the bandwagoners and their half baked madness.


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    #157
    molloyjh
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    Magico Gonzalez wrote: »
    The RWC certainly drags out the bandwagoners and their half baked madness.

    Ah that's a poor enough attitude in fairness. I was a RWC bandwagoner at one stage myself, just before the Internet became a big thing, so my ill informed opinions were kept from general consumption. The tournament brings new people to the game and that's a good thing.

    For what it's worth my ill informed opinions are now admittedly out there now for public consumption, but hey ho....


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    #158
    bilston
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    noway12345 wrote: »
    Look, a few people have been proven wrong about Payne. That's all. We move on.

    I don't see how Sunday proved anything about Payne since he wasn't playing


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    #159
    BoardsMember
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    bilston wrote: »
    I don't see how Sunday proved anything about Payne since he wasn't playing

    It proves he was injured.

    I'll get my coat.


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    #160
    molloyjh
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    bilston wrote: »
    I don't see how Sunday proved anything about Payne since he wasn't playing

    Is there a reason people are engaging in this still?


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    #161
    bilston
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    Leslie91 wrote: »
    He wore the number 12 alright but it did appear he and Earls rotated a bit depending on what France were doing or what we had planned in attack. I still think Henshaw should be our "13" until Ringrose is ready.

    Henshaw probably will move out to 13, but I'm not sure he will be there to keep the shirt warm for anyone!


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    #162
    bilston
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    Is there a reason people are engaging in this still?

    I'm just playing catchup on the thread molloy!


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    #163
    thebaz
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    Leslie91 wrote: »
    He wore the number 12 alright but it did appear he and Earls rotated a bit depending on what France were doing or what we had planned in attack. I still think Henshaw should be our "13" until Ringrose is ready.

    it sounds like Earls won't be ready , sat out training, i assume our midfield will be Henshaw and Fitzgerald - I did think of Ringrose, is he close to been ready ??
    Australia bring in youngsters, and BOD was very young when he came in


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    #164
    bilston
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    thebaz wrote: »
    it sounds like Earls won't be ready , sat out training, i assume our midfield will be Henshaw and Fitzgerald - I did think of Ringrose, is he close to been ready ??
    Australia bring in youngsters, and BOD was very young when he came in

    Leinster heads will no better but I think he has been playing wing for them so far this season.


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    #165
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    Ringrose has only played twice for Leinster this season, as far as I'm aware, and out of position. That's the grand total of his senior experience, isn't it? I know everyone has high hopes for him but I doubt we'll see him in the senior Irish squad this season.


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    #166
    Uriel.
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    bilston wrote: »
    Leinster heads will no better but I think he has been playing wing for them so far this season.

    Yes being playing wing. He is nowhere near ready for an international call up, let alone world cup knockouts. One to watch for the future without doubt, he's looked solid in the opening games of the season. Needs to bulk up, especially if he is to find his long term home at centre


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    #167
    molloyjh
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    bilston wrote: »
    Leinster heads will no better but I think he has been playing wing for them so far this season.

    Yeah played on the wing for us so far. Looks like a centre playing wing in fairness. But he's been very good so far. Linking up really well with Isa, very composed. He looks the real deal the little we've seen so far. But a long, long way from international duty. Times have changed since Drico made his debut. A lot.


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    #168
    Bazzo
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    As far as I know he's being played on the wing for Leinster at the moment because they think centre might be a bit physical for him yet(open to correction).

    Another year or two and we might see him in green.


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    #169
    Zzippy
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    molloyjh wrote: »
    Yeah played on the wing for us so far. Looks like a centre playing wing in fairness. But he's been very good so far. Linking up really well with Isa, very composed. He looks the real deal the little we've seen so far. But a long, long way from international duty. Times have changed since Drico made his debut. A lot.

    Imagine Drico (as he was then) making his debut now. He'd look tiny!


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    #170
    thebaz
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    Zzippy wrote: »
    Imagine Drico (as he was then) making his debut now. He'd look tiny!

    then again, for all his bulk, Basterauyd was a passenger on Sunday - and Burgess against Aus - hopefully this WC will be the re-birth of flair over bulk


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    #171
    Henwin
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    For the life of me I cant understand why dont bring in a replacement for Payne, when the management announced the squad for the world cup they said how hard it was for them to leave Andrew Trimble out of the squad. Now they have the perfect opportunity to bring him in and they delay and delay a decision. Even if he isnt used they should still reward him by letting him join the squad.
    they said they will make a decision after the french match, now its the argentina match. surely the quicker they get a player in the better.
    Id hate to be trimble waiting by the phone expecting a call and getting none.


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    #172
    Pink Fairy
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    Henwin wrote: »
    For the life of me I cant understand why dont bring in a replacement for Payne, when the management announced the squad for the world cup they said how hard it was for them to leave Andrew Trimble out of the squad. Now they have the perfect opportunity to bring him in and they delay and delay a decision. Even if he isnt used they should still reward him by letting him join the squad.
    they said they will make a decision after the french match, now its the argentina match. surely the quicker they get a player in the better.
    Id hate to be trimble waiting by the phone expecting a call and getting none.

    Depends on what Joe wants, he may want to bring in Felix Jones , I'm guessing it all depends on injuries after the Argentina game, neither player would be needed at the moment in Joes eyes


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    #173
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    A player could get a knock in training or in the match that means they miss one game but don't have to be sent home. If that happens we still have an option of calling someone else up. Chances are anyone called up now isn't going to be involved in the match day squads anyway so it doesn't really matter. The way it is now we have a spare spot in the squad that can be filled if and when necessary. As much as I like Trimble and was disgusted he was left out in the first place I doubt very much Schmidt is going to bring him in just to reward him.


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    #174
    bilston
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    Earls's knock maybe means we need a centre. Take your pick of McFadden, Reid, Marshall and McCloskey.


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    #175
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    bilston wrote: »
    Earls's knock maybe means we need a centre. Take your pick of McFadden, Reid, Marshall and McCloskey.

    We have Fitzgerald and Cave already there. One of them will play and the other might make the bench, he might not. Nobody will be brought in this week, it's too late to be of use now. Even called up tonight it'd be Saturday before he can join up with the squad. If anyone gets called up it'll be after Sunday.


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    #176
    wp_rathead
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    I can see Henshaw at 13 for the 6 Nations


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    #177
    TICKLE_ME_ELMO
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    wp_rathead wrote: »
    I can see Henshaw at 13 for the 6 Nations

    I think it could depend on how long Payne takes to recover and get back playing for Ulster and what McCloskey can do in the meantime. I don't see why Joe would change the positions for the 6 Nations if Payne and Henshaw are both fit and playing well for their provinces. If Payne takes a while to come back from injury and McCloskey keeps up the form he started the season with, maybe partnered with Cave for Ulster we might well see a change at 12/13 for the 6 Nations.


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    #178
    salmocab
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    Henwin wrote: »
    For the life of me I cant understand why dont bring in a replacement for Payne, when the management announced the squad for the world cup they said how hard it was for them to leave Andrew Trimble out of the squad. Now they have the perfect opportunity to bring him in and they delay and delay a decision. Even if he isnt used they should still reward him by letting him join the squad.
    they said they will make a decision after the french match, now its the argentina match. surely the quicker they get a player in the better.
    Id hate to be trimble waiting by the phone expecting a call and getting none.

    The reality is we don't need Trimble at the moment, we have at best 3 games left and already have 5 guys who can play wing in the squad. However a win saturday with say Murray picking up a knock that might keep him out for a week would mean we only have one SH so could add Boss on monday with a view to subbing in the semi but would still have Murray back for a potential final. It does seem harsh on Trimble but thats the reality of pro sport. All that said Joe might just call up someone tomorrow.


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    #179
    b.gud
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    Zzippy wrote: »
    Imagine Drico (as he was then) making his debut now. He'd look tiny!

    Especially if he was still in this jersey :)

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    #180
    phog
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    bilston wrote: »
    Earls's knock maybe means we need a centre. Take your pick of McFadden, Reid, Marshall and McCloskey.

    Earls knockon doesn't mean he's not a centre.


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    #181
    .ak
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    phog wrote: »
    Earls knockon doesn't mean he's not a centre.

    Knock, not knockon....


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