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Dublin Fingal General Election

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  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    I see their out in force in Lusk/Rush, finne gall and the sinners,Big James and Alan Farrell looking at ye every where ya go ,alone with Louise O'Reilly (any relation to James?).
    Ye might have noticed I mentioned the Dail Bar in a few post's --- I see Paddy Power having a pop ---

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/discover/paddy-power-gets-in-one-last-parting-shot-at-the-departing-tds-718846.html

    ps , just thinking ,would some of their bill's even fit on that trailer?


  • Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭jwwb


    Daly, Clare United Left Dublin North 21.1% 18.7% 17.8% 16.0% 28.4% 21.9% 39.1%
    Farrell, Alan Fine Gael Dublin North 16.5% 13.3% 9.5% 10.1% 18.9% 26.5% 8.7%


  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    I would be very surprised if the bould Claire is not elected,I'm not surprised support for Alan Farrell has dropped,Alan Kelly's stunt with the waste charges last week went down like a lead balloon,if he thought the electorate were going to forget his parting gift to them with the hoo ha of the election,then he is badly wrong and sadly mistaken.
    That stunt will not do Brendan Ryan any favour's either.
    Poll's this morning showing Fine Gael 28% -- Finna Fall 21% --- Labour 7% -- Sinn Fein 21% --- ind's 25%
    http://www.irishtimes.com/election-2016/new-irish-times-ipsos-mrbi-poll-brings-bad-news-for-coalition-1.2521723
    I see the figures on Dail attendance released,shamefull to say the least,the crowd below in north Tipp, really have proved that ye get what ya vote for.
    Only 7 Td's with a perfect attendance record out of 166 Td's.
    Ronnie Reagan was right if government ran crime it woul't Pay and when it come's to parliamentary
    business,Td's have made sure the only people it pay's is them.

    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/voting-record-of-all-166-tds-shows-who-was-absent-the-most-since-2011-718864.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    dslamjack wrote: »
    I would be very surprised if the bould Claire is not elected,I'm not surprised support for Alan Farrell has dropped,Alan Kelly's stunt with the waste charges last week went down like a lead balloon,if he thought the electorate were going to forget his parting gift to them with the hoo ha of the election,then he is badly wrong and sadly mistaken.
    That stunt will not do Brendan Ryan any favour's either.

    Farrell is FG not Labour as your post seems to suggest.

    If our electorate can't figure out who's running for which party what hope has the country got.

    And pay by weight waste charges make total sense - produce less and pay less. I say that as no labour fan. We can't continually tip black bins full of waste into the earth forever.

    People just don't want to pay for anything these days and have a moan.

    You're posts are just one long whinge time and time again - I assume you are out there trying to get elected? make changes? and contribute to a better society? Perhaps you'd outline your policies and how you intend to fix our state and the local area.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,110 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dizzyblonde


    kennyb3 wrote: »
    Farrell is FG not Labour as your post seems to suggest.

    If our electorate can't figure out who's running for which party what hope has the country got.

    And pay by weight waste charges make total sense - produce less and pay less. I say that as no labour fan. We can't continually tip black bins full of waste into the earth forever.

    People just don't want to pay for anything these days and have a moan.

    You're posts are just one long whinge time and time again - I assume you are out there trying to get elected? make changes? and contribute to a better society? Perhaps you'd outline your policies and how you intend to fix our state and the local area.


    Mod Note: Attack the post, not the poster.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    Apologies.

    What I was getting at where is the constructiveness?

    It's great to just sit here and type out all that is wrong it's a different thing to know how to fix it or do something about it.

    No party and no politician are perfect, some are better than others mind. The point is there are a few that are in it for the money and celebrity but most are trying to do good and believe in what they are doing. I don't share the majority of their views but I respect and admire them for trying.

    I'm happy to pay my share of tax if it means improved public services. The same people protesting about water charges or usc (or income levy once upon a time) are complaining about the lack of spending on health or roads etc. The same people marching against water charges in toe with left wing/socialist parties yet won't accept socialism when it mean modular houses being built nearby.

    I'd like to hear more postivity on what can and should and needs to be done, rather than what's wrong.

    How would people fix hospital waiting lists? Just keep shovelling cash into the HSE?

    How would you fix the social housing crisis? Are you happy to pay more tax to do so?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    This government have a lot to answer for in terms of the housing crisis (I see this directly affecting family), the emergency departments are still the same and the setting up of Irish Water was shambolic (even though I'm happy to pay for water if it mean improved infrastructure).

    They did do some good though:

    1) Did well on the economy - you can argue it's due to external events (particularly Draghi's cheap money via liquidity and low bond yields) but there is no doubting the economy is miles better. This is my number 1 concern. Everything hinges on the economy, it always has and always will. Everyones lives and prospects depend on it.

    - Much lower unemployment rate. This means tax receipts are increasing across all the major tax head - more income tax via wages, more vat via consumer spending - see car sales. Social welfare spending on unemployment has fallen significantly. A double win.

    - The debt to GDP ratio has fallen substantially. We're the fastest growing country in Europe and will continue to be for a while.

    - We've access to bond markets and have credability back. Ireland is a good place for FDI. I hate the whole knowledge economy name but there is no doubting how highly we are perceived in this regard.

    They could have went all Greek on it but didn't - thank god.

    2) Finally pushed through X-case legislation

    3) Marriage equality referendum

    4) Free GP care for the under sixes. We all have kids/grandkids or will have. Not having struggling families worrying whether they should or shouldn't send the kid to the GP due to the cost is great news.

    This is the one health issue I'm really happy about.


  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    I'm Micheal Healy Rae stupid me in NCD kinda way,I'm not a politician, or running for election, I am well aware of who's who,Kelly and Farrell were colleague's in a coalition government,which introduced a raft of new tax's and charges -- Fact.
    The health service has been in crisis especially in Dublin,since the eighties when the Richmond ,Jervis st etc closed,their has been a bed shortage ever since - Fact.
    It was a landowner at Lissenhall ,who early last year offered a free 120 acre site to house the National Children's hospital,which was rejected in favour of the St James Hospital site I believe.
    Non the less ,it is still an excellent site for at least 600/800 bed General hospital,of which at least half should be purposely for geriatric use, as it is the demand for geriatric bed's that put's most hospital's under the most pressure.
    James Reilly,when minister for health, tried to address this issue by creating high dependency unit's,his idea was that every area/town,village would have a 10/20 bed H.D.U built to accommodate local need's(akin to the old cottage hospital's).
    This inititive would have created and provided 2/3000 badly needed bed's nationwide,but because one of these unit's was constructed in Lusk,on a site sitting idle,bought by the health board prior to the HSE,he was deemed to have been playing parish politic's,and it led to his demise as minister for health.
    And for what it's worth,I could never understand why James Reilly he went in to politic's,it certainly was't for the money,he is of independent mean's as they would say,and he was a damm fine G.P and is badly missed from his practise in Lusk.
    As someone who is currently trying to get over Cancer, I know all about the HSE ,Beaumount Hospital just cannot cope,I have been on the trolley's down there numerous times in the last year.
    If the local fire officer had any neck,it would have been closed on health and saftey ,and fire ground's,because god forbid's if a fire broke out there,100's would die,they just would not be able to get that amount of people out in time.Fingal need's it's own hospital .. FACT.


  • Registered Users Posts: 210 ✭✭jwwb


    kennyb3 wrote: »

    I'm happy to pay my share of tax if it means improved public services. The same people protesting about water charges or usc (or income levy once upon a time) are complaining about the lack of spending on health or roads etc. The same people marching against water charges in toe with left wing/socialist parties yet won't accept socialism when it mean modular houses being built nearby.

    I'd like to hear more postivity on what can and should and needs to be done, rather than what's wrong.

    How would people fix hospital waiting lists? Just keep shovelling cash into the HSE?

    How would you fix the social housing crisis? Are you happy to pay more tax to do so?

    Do you not believe that the entire Irish Water saga stinks? Just as a personal view an entity that is going to spend billions should be able to prove at every step that proper procedure was followed. There should never ever be any undocumented meetings. If Siemens come along and offer to do it for free perhaps you should have good reason for turning them down and document this. If a parliamentary question about it is asked perhaps answer it properly.

    There has been too many proven instances of corruption in the past that you can no longer claim the benefit of the doubt. You must be able to prove compliance and I should not have any doubts and/or conspiracy theory over the process.

    Is it not reasonable to complain about health spending when you see a few tens of millions being dropped into eircodes or a couple of billion into Irish Water. Just for the record no problem paying for water but have a big problem paying to enrich someone's mates.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    jwwb wrote: »
    Do you not believe that the entire Irish Water saga stinks? Just as a personal view an entity that is going to spend billions should be able to prove at every step that proper procedure was followed. There should never ever be any undocumented meetings. If Siemens come along and offer to do it for free perhaps you should have good reason for turning them down and document this. If a parliamentary question about it is asked perhaps answer it properly.

    There has been too many proven instances of corruption in the past that you can no longer claim the benefit of the doubt. You must be able to prove compliance and I should not have any doubts and/or conspiracy theory over the process.

    Is it not reasonable to complain about health spending when you see a few tens of millions being dropped into eircodes or a couple of billion into Irish Water. Just for the record no problem paying for water but have a big problem paying to enrich someone's mates.

    Yes I do you'll see I actually said as much in my very next post. It was a shambles of the highest order.

    However lets be honest it's not the first or the last and it's not unique to Ireland. Am I happy about it? Not one bit.

    My point is simply for all that was done wrong, there is a lot done right.

    If Irish water is the cost of having friends and family return to work, having emigrants return home and having free GP care for under 6's then I can live with that.

    Protest, complain, write letters, badger politicians about corruption but don't be naive enough to think it's unique to one party or another. Unfortuntately it seems to be an Irish cultural thing. Just look at your points above, SF and Slab Murphy, the last few FF government's, Mick Wallace and his vat 3's and you'll see that.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    The psychiatric service's have been the poorman of the health service for year's,you only have to look below to St Ita's in Portrane and the way it was let go to see it.
    I eluded to H.D.U's(high dependency unit's) in a previous post, I have always believed the only way to tackle the horrendous problem of Alcohol/Drug and Mental health problem's is to have community based residential ''Life Centre's'' as I would call them,akin to H.D.U's embedded in every community in the state.
    St Patrick's Hospital residential treatment programme of drug/alcohol/and mental health would serve as an excellent template for such a program.
    Unit's like these would be needed in every community across the state,if the scourge and taboo of mental illness is ever to be tackled.
    If the government of the day is serious about tackling this crisis,then surly part of the tax on alcohol/cigarette's or a tax on both industries should be sourced as a mean's of financing a national programme of rehabilitation and support for the psychiatric patient and community as a whole.
    I would establish an independent agency to run the service,the H.S.E and vested interest's in the medical ''profession'' have proved time and again they could not run a bath.
    I would have absolutely no problem if instead of the U.S.C being abolished,the percentage taken was reduced and used to fund this and other health programme's.
    Let us not fool ourselves either,the health budget nearly tripled over the Septic Tiger year's, so it's well known ,that money is't the sole root of what's wrong with the health service


  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Enda say's he won't be doing any business with any independent's and definitely not with the bad lad of Tipp,Mr Lowry ,But .. they could be 12 seat's short of a majority,even with themselves and Labour.
    A lot of the press/politico's seem to hint that a FG/FF coalition can not be ruled out ,looking at the sum's anything could happen,we could end up with a rainbow/rainbow coalition,, like SF,Independent alliance/ AAA/PBF ,maybe even Labour if Enda tried to do the dirt with FF.
    It really is a political lottery with no one party holding the winning ticket .

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2016/i-will-not-do-a-deal-with-michael-lowry-or-any-other-independent-insists-enda-kenny-34426278.html

    http://elections.independent.ie/election-2016/dublin-fingal

    http://www.rte.ie/news/election-2016/constituencies/dublin-fingal/


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Is Marcus DeBruin, Ind, standing this time, don't see his name on any of the published articles.


  • Registered Users Posts: 184 ✭✭Michael8000


    martinn123 wrote: »
    Is Marcus DeBruin, Ind, standing this time, don't see his name on any of the published articles.


    According to the Irish Times he is.

    http://www.irishtimes.com/election-2016/dublin-fingal


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123




  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 11,667 Mod ✭✭✭✭RobFowl


    martinn123 wrote: »

    A great friend of boards.ie.......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭rubberdiddies


    kennyb3 wrote: »

    And pay by weight waste charges make total sense - produce less and pay less. I say that as no labour fan. We can't continually tip black bins full of waste into the earth forever.

    People just don't want to pay for anything these days and have a moan.

    i dont really get this point.
    where i am we pay an annual charge of €110 plus €9.35 (i think) every time we put the black bin out. we dont pay any extra for the green or brown bins.

    As a result i find i am now putting the black bin out less and less frequently. down to once every 6 or 7 weeks at the moment.

    in fact, if Panda are to be belived, they have a zero landfill policy, so nothing is going to landfill.

    From July, we will be paying by weight for the black, green and brown bins. Plus more than likely an annual charge. If there's no annual charge, i have no doubt the price per kilo will be very high. In fact I did a calculation based on the only available charge per weight available to me from a competitor of Pandas. Based on all my weights from last year from all 3 bins, and using the competitors charges, I would have paid 17% more last year with the competitor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Thank you Rubber,you just about summed up the whole waste bin issue in a nut shell and far better than I could have ,I'm in the same boat ,only 2 of us here now,haven't put a black bin out for more than 3 month's, brown bin even less,mostly the green bin because of all the packaging,and as some body pointed out Panda/Greyhound sell that on at a profit for recycling ,incineration after we pay them a yearly service charge,so maybe they should be paying us by weight for the content's of our green bin.
    After all these year's of fella's in fine silk suit's telling us that every thing their doing is for our best interest's,while they fill their briefcase's and off shore account's and pension's up with our hard earned cash,I'm sure the management of Irish Water are as concerned about the environment as their colleagues in the waste management sector.
    Actually,what make's me laugh most is that people actually still believe these guy's and their guff,as the yank's say there's one born everyminute,and you know what --- these guy's know it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Anybody rember back to 2008/9 and people on to Joe Duffy about the then decrepit Mater Hospital A+E, since then , the Mater has had a brand new A+E unit built,has anything changed NO.... overcrowding still as bad as ever,thankfully after complain't from Doctor's ,Nurse's and Patient's ,the problem of drug dealing addict's using the A+E and the toilet's for shooting up is being tackled,also the homeless using the A+E as over night accommodation as well has been addressed, by more stringent security measure's and vetting of people in the area being put in place.
    The addict's when forced out of the A+E, started using other waiting area's and part's of the hospital for their distribution need's,this too has been addressed by extra security,although the Eccles St entrance is now closed at 5pm sharp and access strictly controlled all day,which can lead to delay's for patient's and visitor's trying to gain access during the day,which in turn only leave's the NCR rd doors open after 5pm.
    At least these issue's are being addressed,is it costing the hospital more money,I should hope not,seeing a private company is now in charge of security ,in lieu of when the hospital employed it's own porter's as security.
    What I'm trying to say is that all that was required,was for management to do the job they are being paid to do,and indeed the root cause of all the industrial unrest of late is by doctor's and nurse's striking basically to get their own management to do what they are paid to do -- run the hospital.
    Their is absolutely no point in building a new A+E , if there is no extra bed capacity in the hospital to relieve the pressure on A+E,(this apply's to every hospital in the country).
    The Mater Hospital's management solution to this was to tender for the contract to build the new national children's hospital with the hospital's last bit of building space.
    What planet are these people on,no wonder their own staff don't believe a word out of them and have to threaten strike action to get them to address the very basic facet's of running a hospital.
    There should have been at least 400 bed unit/ward's,surgical and geriatric etc built on the Eccles St site.
    There is one issue running right through the service,LACK of Accountability --- about the only thing Leo Varadak has said in the last year of any real pertinence,is that he does not have the authority to either suspend,sack ,remove , abolish or dissolve ,any staff ,the management or board members of the various hospital's/health trust's etc.
    An absolutely extraordinary statement for basically the CEO of a department with a near 15 Billion euro budget to make,a minister with little or no executive power over a budget of 15 Billion,which is 14pc more than it was 10 years ago.
    Maybe the post of minister for health should be done away with,when the new government is elected,and just let the secretary general of the dept run the show,we'd at least save one salary that could be put to better use.
    In any organisation , there can only be one Boss,but in any business or organisation anywhere a Boss who cannot ,hire fire or suspend is about as much use as an ash tray on a motorbike,and until we get a minister for health who effectively take's control of the health service with an iron grip(forgive me for saying it Maggie Thatcher style)with the ability to summarily hire and fire subject to industrial law of course,then the health service will still be in the same mess 20 year's from now,just like it has for the last 30 year's.

    HSE budget link's --- http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/health/hse-seeks-extra-19bn-in-budget-2016-talks-31489461.html

    https://www.google.ie/?gws_rd=ssl#q=hse+total+budget

    P.S parking at the Mater under the new Hospital,paid for by taxpayer's is 3.20 euro's an hour


  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Well that will teach me for talking about the health service ,because I ended up in the Mater Hospital A+E for 5 hour's yesterday,after putting up yesterday's post..
    I want to apologise if my post yesterday put anybody off the A+E in the Mater,it was not my intention to do so,the new A+E is a million miles from the war zone that was the old A+E.
    It is peaceful,quiet,enough security to attend to those that need security,exactly the way a modern A+E should be, the Staff are absolutely excellent, BUT,the new A+E has only 25 beds,that why it has to go off call so quickly,when the main hospital cannot provide sufficient bed's to meet it supply of patient's.
    You would think that being a whole new A+E the bed space would have been at least double at 50 bed's being that it is one of the busiest A+E unit's in the country in one of the largest hospitals in the city and country.
    The management that signed off on this plan has to be questioned.
    I heard a patient saying the place was like bedlam the day before,after the shooting in the Regency hotel,armed Garda every where ,on every door,etc.
    The real truth of the matter is that if there was God forbid,a really major disaster around Dublin,I would not be surprised if the Army /Civil defence was called on to set up field hospital's in the ground's of the city's hospital's.
    Because if the hospital's are only barely coping now,what would happen if there were hundred's of seriously injured people to deal with,there is't even enough ambulance's as it is now,as the fleet is ancient and have not been replaced or unscaled to meet demand.
    I suppose what I'm trying to say in my usual long winded way,is that we have to hammer on at the politico's when they come knocking at our door's,some thing has to be done once and for all,and continually pouring money in to the service is not the solution.
    It's not the oil that need's changing, it's the engine.

    P.S - 5 hour's Sat afternoon/evening is an excellent turnaround for any A+E,4 hour's is the international target of excellence for patient turnaround in an A+E Dept.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Darragh O'Brien ,F.F is currently being interviewed by Ivan Yates on Tv - am,I'm sure you can watch later on Tv 3 player ... http://www.tv3.ie/3player


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,459 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Didn't realise that sinn fein didn't even run a candidate in the last election in dublin north. Now there is some thought they have a sure seat with a candidate parachuted in. Mmmm

    With a push and good vote management from fg it should be 2 fg, claire daly, ryan for labour and 1 FF.


  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    The minister must read boards.ie and me going on about the ambulance service,re Fifty new ambulances as part of multimillion euro investment

    http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/irish-news/fifty-new-ambulances-as-part-of-multimillion-euro-investment-34431114.html
    err ,actually it's amazing the way's these thing's are announced coming up to an election,or is just cynical old me.
    Arthur ,I reckon you could be right about Big James, I reckon he will do the biz and scrape in just to upset his cynics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,300 ✭✭✭martinn123


    Didn't realise that sinn fein didn't even run a candidate in the last election in dublin north. Now there is some thought they have a sure seat with a candidate parachuted in. Mmmm

    With a push and good vote management from fg it should be 2 fg, claire daly, ryan for labour and 1 FF.

    Personally I would be surprised if SF gained a seat here, with a parachuted in Candidate who messed up in her first radio interview regarding Gerry McCabe.

    F G would need a miracle to get both Alan and James in, I have a feeling Alan might prevail, as James is not well regarded within thr FG hierarchy.

    Claire looks likely to top the poll, and Brendan looks a shoe in, Darragh will prevail, so the last 2 seats are a dog-fight, between SF/ FG, and assorted Ind.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,459 ✭✭✭Arthur Daley


    Paddy power odds suggest the first 4 seats are sorted daly, o'brien, ryan and james reilly. Then the sinn feiner is neck and neck with alan farrell and after claire daly there isn't likely to be another strong independent vote.

    They are bookies odds though just like a poll an indicator of what will happen but a bit can change in 3 weeks. Especially when people think about what a change of govt. will actually produce in terms of instability. Which is different from a lot of the protest politics that have dominated quite a lot in locals and by elections since 2011.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    i dont really get this point.
    where i am we pay an annual charge of €110 plus €9.35 (i think) every time we put the black bin out. we dont pay any extra for the green or brown bins.

    As a result i find i am now putting the black bin out less and less frequently. down to once every 6 or 7 weeks at the moment.

    in fact, if Panda are to be belived, they have a zero landfill policy, so nothing is going to landfill.

    From July, we will be paying by weight for the black, green and brown bins. Plus more than likely an annual charge. If there's no annual charge, i have no doubt the price per kilo will be very high. In fact I did a calculation based on the only available charge per weight available to me from a competitor of Pandas. Based on all my weights from last year from all 3 bins, and using the competitors charges, I would have paid 17% more last year with the competitor.

    What don't you get? That you'd have to pay a small amount more?

    Where do you think the waste goes? Would it be incinerator's? Those very same things people protest against and don't want nearby them?

    You do realise we export a huge amount of waste?

    Pay by weight waste disposal is to further encourage waste reduction after the hugely successful introduction of green and black bins not reverse that. The black bins are obviously going to be far more expensive.

    International evidence shows weight-based waste collection charges result in significant reductions in consumer waste.

    I'm not sure on your figures but it's pretty much accepted that unless you've 6 or more in your family or refuse to change your ways that your overall cost should be lower.

    Is your opposition based on the fact you'd have to pay (about €33 per year going off your figures)? Is it really all about you and your bottom line?

    We've 4 in the family, 2 young children and even if our bills were to go up by 20%+ I'd happily as the idea is right in principle and I'm not a greenie at all. Not everything is about a few euro.

    As a stick to beat the government about it's about as irrelevant as you can get - any extra bin charges are massively offset by decreases in the top rate of tax, USC reductions, an extra free montessori year, GP care for under 6's, abolition of the pension levy etc etc (if we are talking about bottom lines and not services).

    The new system is pretty much a necessity if we want to hit our EU targets and not end up fritting away money on EU fines.


  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Well Gerry Adams say's there no gangland turf war etc,that's all right then.
    Labour are trying to put Alan Kelly in a quiet room ,where he can only hear his own voice and conjure up devilishly cunning plan's to depose the bould Joan.
    An interview in the Independent with he that can do no wrong,the king of the sound bite,and every spin doctor's delight , Leo Varadkar talks to Niamh Horan,with a really lovely pic of Leo ye can cut out and put on yer wall,for those moment's when yere looking for inspiration.
    Fine Gale are also considering putting Henda and Michael Noonan in a sound booth without a window,until they figure out what exactly their election strategy is.
    Renua ,want tougher sentences for white collar crime ,well that will probably effect half their election base of 10.
    I was just about to round up and ,well leave it to LEO...More beds and additional resources can lead to a slower work rate among hospital staff, Health Minister Leo Varadkar has claimed ....what is it they say about quitting when you're ahead.... Anyhooo ... all in the Indo this morning ... great start to the week ....http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/election-2016/more-hospital-beds-can-slow-down-staff-claims-minister-leo-varadkar-34430062.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    Yep I bang on about crime,who ever took that photo of the gunmen leaving the Regency Hotel after the shooting last week is either very very stupid or very very brave,they where lucky not to have been shot by the killer's in order to erase evidence.
    The laughable thing is their face's are blurred out on all the media format's this morning, WHY, because the criminal's have a right to personal privacy under data protection law's and that it might impinge on their right to a fair trial if they ever get to court,and the numerous appeal's etc etc that normally ensue at our expense.
    The truth is that these animal's ,if ever brought to ''justice'' will only get a few year's anyway,the real truth of the matter if it be known ,is that these professional criminal's are more than well known to the Guards,all probably with criminal record's longer than the M1.... and there out free running around our street's ,probably claiming all that's due on the social welfare---- what a sad sick joke ... ''justice'' LOL.
    Is it going to take a mass killing of innocent's,children in a playground or spectator's in the Aviva,for the people of this country to wake up and demand proper JUSTICE for victim's of crime, meaning build the super prison that has been on the states shopping list for 30 year's, and introduce mandatory life sentences ... meaning Exactly That ... Life without Parole or remission, and once and for all get this human filth off our street's.

    P.S ..I never watched Love/Hate... grew up watching all that crap around me ,certainly did't need to see it on my tv,maybe those who glorified and celebritised these thug's should take time out to reflect on what happen's when you reward these thug's with notorious celebrity ,and a press that give them fancy name's...there is only one name for them .. Scum


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,724 ✭✭✭kennyb3


    dslamjack wrote: »
    Yep I bang on about crime,who ever took that photo of the gunmen leaving the Regency Hotel after the shooting last week is either very very stupid or very very brave,they where lucky not to have been shot by the killer's in order to erase evidence.
    The laughable thing is their face's are blurred out on all the media format's this morning, WHY, because the criminal's have a right to personal privacy under data protection law's and that it might impinge on their right to a fair trial if they ever get to court,and the numerous appeal's etc etc that normally ensue at our expense.
    The truth is that these animal's ,if ever brought to ''justice'' will only get a few year's anyway,the real truth of the matter if it be known ,is that these professional criminal's are more than well known to the Guards,all probably with criminal record's longer than the M1.... and there out free running around our street's ,probably claiming all that's due on the social welfare---- what a sad sick joke ... ''justice'' LOL.
    Is it going to take a mass killing of innocent's,children in a playground or spectator's in the Aviva,for the people of this country to wake up and demand proper JUSTICE for victim's of crime, meaning build the super prison that has been on the states shopping list for 30 year's, and introduce mandatory life sentences ... meaning Exactly That ... Life without Parole or remission, and once and for all get this human filth off our street's.

    P.S ..I never watched Love/Hate... grew up watching all that crap around me ,certainly did't need to see it on my tv,maybe those who glorified and celebritised these thug's should take time out to reflect on what happen's when you reward these thug's with notorious celebrity ,and a press that give them fancy name's...there is only one name for them .. Scum

    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/continuity-ira-claim-responsibility-for-shooting-at-regency-hotel-1.2526783


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  • Registered Users Posts: 556 ✭✭✭dslamjack


    I don't hold with any of this nonsense ,the real ira/continutity ira,green ira,dissident ira,they are all criminal's,most certainly are not patriot's or of any useful service to this country and it's people.
    They use the front of being republican's as a front for their criminal and illicit financial scheme's,they make a mockery of democracy and republicanism,they represent no one outside their own criminal and mentally distorted fraternity.
    There is only one law enforcement agency in the state that is an Garda Síochána and one common law for all.
    Their is a peace agreement,that true republican's and the population as a whole north and south honoured with an overwhelming majority in favour of,and which in turn the Provisional IRA honoured by disarming and putting their weapon's beyond use and disarming and going away.
    No one citizen is above the law or endowed with the privilege to enact law,that privilege is the people's alone,through the democratically elected government,empowered by the democratic expression of the majority to enact such law's on their behalf... that is democracy.
    As I said , the Press and media,government and people in general need to stop glamorising these inhuman psychopaths with fancy names like real ira etc and silly names like the viper/general etc,and instead give them their name ,Prisoner num A 1384 ,Cell 1384,Block B ,Thornton Hall Maximum Security Prison,and throw the key away.
    For those that don't like that and want to follow in their footstep's as I said build a prison with at least 5,000 space's and accommodate them too.
    We need a government that will reform the legal profession here once and for all.
    And put an end to the insulting sentence's being handed down by a judiciary that are eternally crying that their hand's are tied on sentencing ,but which they were non the less were happy to endorse and collect endless monetary remuneration's for when making appeal after appeal,bail application's etc and kept the judicial money go round going,before they were called to the bench.
    Yes and without making any attempt to reform or change the antiquated out dated,ex colonial system of law that is suppose to pass for justice in this country.
    Justice has to be seen to be done,time and time again we see that it is not,when this happen's people start taking the law in to their own hand's,and if we don't get a government soon that get's tough on law,it will be as it was in the wild west.
    Where the only justice a citizen will get ,will be the justice they make and exact themselves... and then it really is game over... I rest my case,we all know what needs to be done --- we just need a government with the backbone to do it.


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