Jan and Klodi's Party Bus - part II **off topic discussion**

Beasty

In recent years Ireland, and in particular Dublin, has been trying to discourage car use. Making parking more difficult through pricing would appear to me to be part of that strategy.

tigerboon

Alek wrote: »

That did not stop him from following me at 30cm distance for the next 1km...

It takes a special sort of "person" to do something like that

ThisRegard

manafana wrote: »

no issue with hospitals charging for car parks, it helps to run the hospital its an indirect tax on people using it. Also there are ways to get parking charges back from hospital in some cases if getting care.

For anyone visiting someone with a serious long term illness it can cost a fortune, I've had nurses in the past offering me use of their staff space at one stage.

They need could do with offering some sort of discount for such cases.

Qualitymark

lgk wrote: »

Because it's all part of a progressive taxation system. Simply paying for every public service from PAYE would make employment a much less attractive proposition for those on the margins.

The Finns seem to manage ok with it, maybe the Danes…?

No one is forcing anyone to park there, public transport is available.

You should remember that if you ever break your hip and don't have a car.

As for breaching patient confidentiality, the Quakers don't worry about data protection; they don't feel it's a big secret if you have the name of a patient and know where to find them

lgk

Qualitymark wrote: »

You should remember that if you ever break your hip and don't have a car.

That's what ambulances are for, I'd probably struggle to drive

Qualitymark wrote: »

As for breaching patient confidentiality, the Quakers don't worry about data protection; they don't feel it's a big secret if you have the name of a patient and know where to find them

I meant on the enforcement side. You know how rules that make sense so long as everyone plays fair don't tent to work too well here. All anyone would have to do is put a note in their car saying visiting patient X. No one would be allowed to confirm if there even was a patient X in the hospital.

AstraMonti

I went to buy 4 new tyres for the car. I knew more or less what I wanted but I asked for advice anyway. So the conversation went something like this:

Me: I need 4 new tyres please for this car
Him: Ok, this is not a fast car, for 100euro I can change them all.
Me: What?
Him: Yes they are chinese, they 'll be grand.
Me: ...Dude.. my bicycle tyres cost twice that, and they only need to carry one.
Him: 200 for pushbike tyres? (Starts shouting) Hey Peter, grab the lambo tyres, we have a loaded guy here.

I kinda walked into that.. (but at the end I got a good price for some Michelin).

Idleater

AstraMonti wrote: »

I kinda walked into that.. (but at the end I got a good price for some Michelin).

I had a similar conversation when I asked my local tyre guys to order me some winter tyres.

They laughed but never complained when I went back each spring and autumn to get them to swap them.

Conversations grew up when they realised the actual benefits of being able to drive the car as intended without ending up in the ditch, or worse in the back of someone else.

CramCycle

ThisRegard wrote: »

They need could do with offering some sort of discount for such cases.

Most have a max charge, for instance, Tallaght was something like 2.50 an hour but 10euro was the max charge. Still expensive or you could buy a 24 hour access card for 12euro which let you in as many times as you wanted in 24 hours and let you out well after that. The 24 hour cards I bought seemed to last about 36 to 48 hours.

lgk wrote: »

I meant on the enforcement side. You know how rules that make sense so long as everyone plays fair don't tent to work too well here.

Cute Hoor syndrome, its an affliction of a subset of Irish people, even if it is awkward and out of our way we will do everything to get something out of the system even if it is not beneficial to us. I suffer myself although I try not too.

Wishbone Ash

lgk wrote: »

Contracted out to private companies who in turn pay the hospitals....

Or in some cases, the hospital has to pay the car parking company an annual fee in addition to the monies the parking company takes in from charges.

Unknown Soldier

ThisRegard wrote: »

This is another thing I only realised recently, some people find the thoughts of milk with dinner as revolting. It has been the norm for me since a kid, to the point of being scolded for leaving little for breakfast the next day. And I'm a Dub.

We get our milk delivered by a milk man and when we initially gave our order he asked if we're sure that's how much we want.

Milk as dinner is even nicer. Boiled spuds, butter and just add milk.

I'm a culchie.

Yes, it is what you would give to young children. Lovely though.

Alek wrote: »

Aaah, Marty, you have really disappointed me this time

(this adds to today's morning little stand-off with a taxi driver beeping at me and pointing to a footpath shared cycle lane on the side. I turned my bike around and pointed at the camera mounted under the stem, then gave him the two-finger-I-will-be-watching-you sign. That did not stop him from following me at 30cm distance for the next 1km... I guess I need a backward facing camera now.)

I acquired one of those fly6 yokes recently and it is pretty damn good. Original version. I'll try and put a small clip up later.

Qualitymark

lgk wrote: »

That's what ambulances are for, I'd probably struggle to drive

You'll take an ambulance back for all your subsequent medical checks?

I meant on the enforcement side. You know how rules that make sense so long as everyone plays fair don't tent to work too well here. All anyone would have to do is put a note in their car saying visiting patient X. No one would be allowed to confirm if there even was a patient X in the hospital.

But that's not what I said, @lgk; I said the Quakers let you come in and get a paper from the hospital - which is, obviously, instantly recognisable as theirs and as official. You put that paper on your dash, and it shows that you're officially and rightly there.

manafana

Qualitymark wrote: »

You'll take an ambulance back for all your subsequent medical checks?



But that's not what I said, @lgk; I said the Quakers let you come in and get a paper from the hospital - which is, obviously, instantly recognisable as theirs and as official. You put that paper on your dash, and it shows that you're officially and rightly there.

Quakers like porridge don't they?

Qualitymark

manafana wrote: »

Quakers like porridge don't they?

They like porridge and they don't like climate change; large numbers will be marching on Sunday from the Custom House - will you?

CramCycle

I loved Quaker oats when I was young. Looked so healthy but had so much sugar in them, genius.

manafana

Qualitymark wrote: »

They like porridge and they don't like climate change; large numbers will be marching on Sunday from the Custom House - will you?

don't like climate change yet encourage free parking :rolleyes:

RobFowl

Jaysus, porridge again lads, have some muesli or something will ye...

Between this and the stupid thread title 😉

CramCycle

RobFowl wrote: »

Jaysus, porridge again lads, have some muesli or something will ye...

Between this and the stupid thread title 😉

The last thread title vote gives me images of yourself with labour party backing at the next election.

Full of good intentions but nobody voted for you.

Beasty

RobFowl wrote: »

Between this and the stupid thread title 😉

Don't worry Rob - you can look forward to 20 April 2017.

At the current rate that's when we will be due to start new thread (based on an average daily post-count of 16.74713)

Of course, there may be ways to accelerate any change. Perhaps we should open the thread up to temporary (or if enough is pledged a bit longer then "temporary";)) name changes - make your pledge here and whichever Cycling "regular" throws most into the pot gets the chance to make new suggestion to the current mod team

Problem solved eh Rob?

Qualitymark

Ah, Ireland; it's always all about money…

lgk

Qualitymark wrote: »

You'll take an ambulance back for all your subsequent medical checks?

In that case I'll take public transport, or happily pay a small sum for convenient parking. Just like if I was going to go shopping in town, I don't have some weird expectation that there should be free parking where and when I want it.

Qualitymark wrote: »

But that's not what I said, @lgk; I said the Quakers let you come in and get a paper from the hospital - which is, obviously, instantly recognisable as theirs and as official. You put that paper on your dash, and it shows that you're officially and rightly there.

Still open to the same abuse, but now with a significant extra unfunded cost for busy hospitals.

RobFowl

Beasty wrote: »

Don't worry Rob - you can look forward to 20 April 2017.

At the current rate that's when we will be due to start new thread (based on an average daily post-count of 16.74713)

Of course, there may be ways to accelerate any change. Perhaps we should open the thread up to temporary (or if enough is pledged a bit longer then "temporary";)) name changes - make your pledge here and whichever Cycling "regular" throws most into the pot gets the chance to make new suggestion to the current mod team

Problem solved eh Rob?

Thread titles here seem a bit like the IFA or IMO leaders salaries, decided in secret with no transparency

I'm out of work so a bit skint but will pledge 100 if it can be changed to LennyMc and RobFowl's Party bus...........

Beasty

RobFowl wrote: »

I'm out of work so a bit skint but will pledge 100 if it can be changed to LennyMc and RobFowl's Party bus...........

Counter-proposal:

€500 for

"LennyMc and RobFowl - Beasty's Boyz (Off topic discussion)"

... until Xmas

Harrybelafonte

Qualitymark wrote: »

Ah, Ireland; it's always all about money…

As opposed to which country?

CramCycle

Harrybelafonte wrote: »

As opposed to which country?

The capitalist paradise of Cuba :pac:

Idleater

CramCycle wrote: »

The capitalist paradise of Cuba :pac:

Pedant alert, the quote was socialist paradise.

manafana

Socialism is great till you run out of someone else s money

Lumen

manafana wrote: »

Socialism is great till you run out of someone else's money

Capitalism is great until you run of everyone else's natural resources.

Qualitymark

manafana wrote: »

Socialism is great till you run out of someone else s money

Point about socialism is that it isn't "someone else's money", it's a matter of pooling resources to take advantage of economies of scale. Works pretty well in those horrifying hells in Scandinavia.

manafana

Qualitymark wrote: »

Point about socialism is that it isn't "someone else's money", it's a matter of pooling resources to take advantage of economies of scale. Works pretty well in those horrifying hells in Scandinavia.

Scandinavia is far from socialism, its certainly balanced capitalism.

wanderer 22

Qualitymark wrote: »

Point about socialism is that it isn't "someone else's money", it's a matter of pooling resources to take advantage of economies of scale. Works pretty well in those horrifying hells in Scandinavia.

Which Scandinavian countries are Socialist?