Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

Ace Attorney

I really hope the two can co exist, i love my 3ds and i hope that the 3d effect and the handhelds x number of millions userbase are enough to keep it separate from the switch.

iamtony

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

It'll zip by in no time.
And, it should herald price cuts on everything with a WiiU logo on it, so should be able to plump out the collection for next to nothing too!!

Only question is the 3DS....

While we know that the Switch is pitched at the types of games we all play on home consoles, where does it leave the 3DS, will game development switch to the Switch, won't the need for higher resolution assets mean that handheld gaming is going to die a death, as budgets increase?
Or is this no problem at all, as the market can tolerate both a on the go/stay at home Switch and a 3DS market at the same time?

I think it spells the end for the 3ds otherwise we would have a successor in the pipe works by now.
It makes more sense for all the highly popular 3ds titles to come out on the hybrid machine as it should keep a steady stream of games coming and avoid the nasty WiiU droughts.
It also means alot of the 3ds fans will by this.
Don't know if I'm happy about it thought but that's what I wreckon is the plan.

CiDeRmAn

So, does that mean that the Switch release of a main Pokemon game is inevitable and may cause the world to implode with joy, particularly if the Switch has the capability of connecting with your phone, so allowing Pokemon Go type innovation too.... jaysus, it's beautiful....
Etrian Odyssey on Switch!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY

Even though this is a classic Francis parody, I actually agree with alot of the points made

iamtony

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

So, does that mean that the Switch release of a main Pokemon game is inevitable and may cause the world to implode with joy, particularly if the Switch has the capability of connecting with your phone, so allowing Pokemon Go type innovation too.... jaysus, it's beautiful....
Etrian Odyssey on Switch!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY

yeah that's exactly the kind of game that will sell millions of these bay boys along with the other weird franchises that I don't care for like animal crossing and tomagotchi life and rubbish like that that sells millions for some strange reason.

Pac1Man

iamtony wrote: »

yeah that's exactly the kind of game that will sell millions of these bay boys along with the other weird franchises that I don't care for like animal crossing and tomagotchi life and rubbish like that that sells millions for some strange reason.

Get out.

iamtony

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Even though this is a classic Francis parody, I actually agree with alot of the points made

Its only a Tablet:-) that's funny cause its kinda true!

Chain Smoker

For someone who knows more about the technical side of both, how much of a challenge will porting WiiU games to the Switch be? Cos there's at least a half dozen Wii U games I'd love to get so it'd go a long way to making me want a Switch sooner rather than later.

MilesMorales1

I hope they port some stuff that was made cumbersome by the gamepad. Like W101 or Paper Mario.

sligeach

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

I did that with the DS Lite when it first came out, I brought it down the pub a few times. I don't remember many if any being really interested.

johnpatrick81

Karen can bring whatever the hell she wants to the party!! As long as she comes.....oh Karen....

iamtony

Pac1Man wrote: »

Get out.

Hahaha seriously though not even my 7 year old can get into it.

Andrew76

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Even though this is a classic Francis parody, I actually agree with alot of the points made

I preferred his other video where he gives us his own impressions - mostly positive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tylMShcWVK4

CiDeRmAn

iamtony wrote: »

Its only a Tablet:-) that's funny cause its kinda true!

Just like the XB1 is only a PC

CiDeRmAn

Chain Smoker wrote: »

For someone who knows more about the technical side of both, how much of a challenge will porting WiiU games to the Switch be? Cos there's at least a half dozen Wii U games I'd love to get so it'd go a long way to making me want a Switch sooner rather than later.

It will be similar to the "porting" from PS2 and 3 to the PS4, it'll just be a way to sell the stand out WiiU games to a new audience by adding available dlc to the package and calling it a "remaster"

764dak

super_furry wrote: »

Skyrim on the toilet. It's all I've ever wanted.

Kidchameleon

johnpatrick81 wrote: »

Karen can bring whatever the hell she wants to the party!! As long as she comes.....oh Karen....

I'd be more of an airport girl kinda guy myself

McLoughlin

How much does a disc drive actually add to the cost of console ? Does anyone know roughly even ? I enjoyed the switch video but feel Nintendo havent revealed everything the switch can do.

It was good not to see kids and families in the video but I don't think Nintendo change the perception allot of people and places have about their consoles.

First year is important strong launch titles and catalogue over its first year good fair launch price and third party support .

CiDeRmAn

Disc drives are a s cheap as chips but they need power to spin and read, and they break.
Not to mention they are slow, solid state is faster.

TotallySwitch

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Chain Smoker wrote: »

For someone who knows more about the technical side of both, how much of a challenge will porting WiiU games to the Switch be? Cos there's at least a half dozen Wii U games I'd love to get so it'd go a long way to making me want a Switch sooner rather than later.

It will be similar to the "porting" from PS2 and 3 to the PS4, it'll just be a way to sell the stand out WiiU games to a new audience by adding available dlc to the package and calling it a "remaster"

Nah. Difference between architectures matters a lot. Thankfully, ARM seems flexible in that regard, and tools devs these days are obviously far more mature than tools in the old days. It's not x86, but ARM is a pretty decent consolation prize. Unity needs to get its multi-core support act together though. Far as I understand it, that's currently in beta but it's really hurt their rep this last year, with games like Firewatch being lacklustre on consoles.
Far more of a disappointment would be if the graphics chip inside is an X1, instead of a (customized) X2, though we really don't know yet. 3 hour rumoured battery life suggests its the less power efficient X1, the active fan/ventilation makes me somewhat hopefull it's a (custom) X2. This thing really can't be 'last year's tech' before it's even out, if they expect the product to perform for five years and receive some kind of third party support.
I also reckon it's gonna have a pretty rough first year/eighteen months when it comes to third party games; I expect it to be a lot like the 'Portstation 4' was during it's first year, but at half the fps, of course. A lot of first party ports too, with Mario and a new Pikmin being some of the only new exclusive titles. I like how they're updating the ports though; Splatoon looks like its getting great add-ons and the dual items in Mario Kart is interesting. Hopefully third parties are noticing how many views the Switch trailer is getting, which is much more favourable than the WiiU's launch trailer was.
I do wonder about it running Android apps. They could boast having a far larger library if they include this feature. Games like the Final Fantasy ports on Android could be playable. It would also encourage mobile game devs to include physical control options in more of their games, which would be a boon for other Android gamers as well.
Great that they finally revealed it, but I seem to have the same amount of questions as before it was revealed :P

Corholio

One of the actors from the Switch reveal video is interviewed. Interesting enough interview about how the shoot went but mostly interesting imo is right at the end where he says there is other things about the console that he knows that he can't say because of contracts. He says it is 'torturing' him that he can't say and that he hopes they reveal them soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQu0hyYcnR4

druss

Corholio wrote: »

He says there is other things about the console that he knows that he can't say because of contracts. He says it is 'torturing' him that he can't say and that he hopes they reveal them soon.

He should be careful about saying "I know stuff" and "torture" to gamers. We've all played that scene in GTA V right? We've all forced Yoshi take that jump for the team?

MilesMorales1

druss wrote: »

He should be careful about saying "I know stuff" and "torture" to gamers. We've all played that scene in GTA V right? We've all forced Yoshi take that jump for the team?

That Wii U version of GTA 5 never came out

druss

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

That Wii U version of GTA 5 never came out

I think it was rebadged as Lego City Undercover.:pac:

Chain Smoker

Corholio wrote: »

One of the actors from the Switch reveal video is interviewed. Interesting enough interview about how the shoot went but mostly interesting imo is right at the end where he says there is other things about the console that he knows that he can't say because of contracts. He says it is 'torturing' him that he can't say and that he hopes they reveal them soon.

That's a huge load of nothing though, it could be a total nothing reveal like "YES GUYS, IT DOES HAVE A TOUCH SCREEN! "

ambro25

TotallySwitch wrote: »

I do wonder about it running Android apps. They could boast having a far larger library if they include this feature. Games like the Final Fantasy ports on Android could be playable. It would also encourage mobile game devs to include physical control options in more of their games, which would be a boon for other Android gamers as well.

When you think about Pokemon Go earlier this year, and the forthcoming 'OEM' Mario platformer on Android and iOs, and the enduring absence of any PR or even leaks about a successor to the 3DS (which, all beloved and well supported that it is, is starting to get a bit long in the tooth in terms of hardware cycles), seems to me Nintendo is

(i) gradually doing a SEGA insofar as the behemoth mobile market is concerned, leaving the mobile handset tech race to Apple, Samsung & co;

(ii) keeping a foot in the dedicated hardware game with the Switch and maybe one-up-man-shipping Sony and MS with "bridging" the mobile handset market and their own (Sony's aborted Xperia Play gaming handsets and lacklustre PS4/Vita pairing success, and MS' equally lacklustre Smartglass experiment and recent exit from the mobile mark, both show that both companies still don't know their mobile arse from their lounge elbow, at least in gaming terms - perhaps Nintendo has seen an opening and is rushing at it); and

(iii) biding its time to see how same-gen dedicated platform fragmentation (PS4/PS4Pro; XB1/XB1-S/SB1-Scorpio) is going to work out for Sony and MS.

Wouldn't surprise me to eventually learn that the Joy Cons are Bluetooth units which are independently pairable with an iOS or Android smartphone

Rhyme

ambro25 wrote: »

Wouldn't surprise me to eventually learn that the Joy Cons are Bluetooth units which are independently pairable with an iOS or Android smartphone

Ooh, that'd be lovely. If they went that way, a little carry-case or a way to connect them to each other would be handy or they'd go the same way the new Apple earphones could go if not enough attention is paid.

Corholio

The Right Joy-Con may have an IR pointer to replicate touch screen games when docked.

http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/10/report-nintendo-switchs-right-joy-con-offers-ir-pointer-functionality/

ambro25

Well, to my mind, it would be one easy way of "bridging" the playing of 'Mario Mobile' on your smartphone and the playing of Switch-exclusive 'The New Mario 3D' on your Switch.

All in the name of commonalising a "type" Nintendo gameplay experience across various platforms.

Same functionality (stick, buttons, gyros, etc.), different platforms and games...or maybe even different platforms same game? The Switch's ARM-Tegra architecture suggests it, and some of their recent published patent applications also point that way.

(see e.g. https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20161020&CC=US&NR=2016303476A1&KC=A1# for a messaging system in Harvest-Moon-running-on-different-platforms)

Anyway, it's all only just tea leaves reading at this stage.

One thing for sure: actual games asides, this thing looks like it does out-of-the-box and so-easy-any-Joe-Public-can-do-it, what took me (as a semi-competent gadget head) hours of installing, testing and fiddling with a JXD S7800B, a USB hub, various adapters (HDMI, etc.) and a couple of 360 controllers.

Epic win so far as I'm concerned, I've been after just this sort of 'proper' hybrid gaming (tablet/TV) for years and longer (I'm talking proper games, not not-made-for-TV-or-local-multiplay Android mobile games (OUYA's bombsquad excepted)). The fact that it's Nintendo is just the cherry on the cake. A big one.

Pac1Man

I heard that there is a camera peripheral. You can connect it into the top of the console while there is a little roll of paper beside you which can print the images instantly.

Now that's innovation! You can actually have a hard copy of your photos as opposed to them just sitting on your digital camera or phone before inevitably getting deleted. Surprisingly nobody considered this before.