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Why is this forum so liberal/far left wing?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 125 ✭✭random1337


    See, this is what I don't get about boards.

    Praising Hitler = Instant ban (and rightly so).
    Praising Stalin or Che Guevera=Totally acceptable.

    So right wing extremism is condemned, but left wing extremism is tolerated, and even celebrated to a certain extent. Maybe the policy should be a little more balanced?

    Exactly, you can walk around with a Che Guevara T-shirt and nothing will happen you. Do the same with a Hitler shirt/wear a Swastika and you will be on the news + lose your job, friends.

    They are both extremists on opposite ends of the left/right spectrum but only one is considered bad. Which leads me to believe that Western society is veering towards communist ideals.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭bpmurray


    They're not "far-left wing", though, far-left is communism/anarchism. This place would be full of praise for Cuba and the Soviet Union if they were.

    The Soviet Union was great, Fidel's got a great beard and Putin looks cute, in a gay icon kind of way.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 125 ✭✭random1337


    todders wrote: »
    I'd love for you to put the violence of the old testament "in context" for me. Care to?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_values

    Just drop it and leave me alone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    So right wing extremism is condemned, but left wing extremism is tolerated, and even celebrated to a certain extent. Maybe the policy should be a little more balanced?

    Care to point to a thread where Mao Zedong or communism, or even just some slightly hardcore socialism has not had at least 50% of people telling the OP they were a nutter?

    Liberal does not mean left wing.

    As for there being no right wing views in AH. Bhahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    Mention:

    Dole
    Immigration
    Crime
    Travelers

    To name but 4.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    random1337 wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_values

    Just drop it and leave me alone.

    But the one single mention of homosexuality is in The OT. Perhaps thats being taken out of context?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    random1337 wrote: »
    Exactly, you can walk around with a Che Guevara T-shirt and nothing will happen you. Do the same with a Hitler shirt/wear a Swastika and you will be on the news + lose your job, friends.

    They are both extremists on opposite ends of the left/right spectrum but only one is considered bad. Which leads me to believe that Western society is veering towards communist ideals.



    Seriously though, I really don't think so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    random1337 wrote: »
    No that video implies that only white people can be racist and we are "privileged" because of our skin colour.
    .
    Nope.

    random1337 wrote: »
    When you think about it, why wouldn't Ethnic Irish people be held in higher regard than foreigners in Ireland?.

    For a number of reasons, not the least of which being that it would be xenophobic.
    random1337 wrote: »
    The same way that Japanese Government/society favours Japanese people in their country and rightly so. ?.

    Racism, crude and ignorant you mean.
    random1337 wrote: »
    Modern Western thinking would lead you to be that it is wrong to favour your own kind in your own country and that it is "racist" to do so.?.

    Yeah, that's called progress, and its a good thing.

    Not sure what you mean by "your own kind". Me, My parents, grand parents and predecessors were born in this country as far back as can be traced, I'm an Irish Republican, and I can safely say that you are not my "kind" in any way shape or fashion.
    random1337 wrote: »
    You think whites in Africa are considered to be equal members of society? The latest land grabs from white farmers in South Africa and Zimbabwe would lead me to think otherwise..

    SA is doing quite well, Zimbabwe is run by a junta that demonises whites, gay people etc and treats all peoples there abysmally.
    random1337 wrote: »
    There is no denying that Universities in Europe and North America are spreading a message to our youth that white people are bigots & oppressors by nature.

    Nonsense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭bodice ripper


    random1337 wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_values

    Just drop it and leave me alone.



    Wikipedia supercedes the bible.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Foxhound38


    random1337 wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_values

    Just drop it and leave me alone.

    I had a great laugh reading about the "promotion of Intelligent Design" bit. Junior Cert biology would have been a right doss if I was able to write "God did it" and get full marks. Not sure my science teacher would have been too impressed having to teach rubbish instead of science though.

    Is this tripe actually what you want?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,571 ✭✭✭newmug


    So when you mean Christian values you mean the ones that you pick and choose so suit yourself?

    How about do on to others as you'd have done on to you and love thy neighbours with regards gay marriage



    Picking and choosing is what protestants do. What you've mentioned there about slaves, shellfish etc. is from the old testament. That's the Jewish bit. The Christian / Catholic bit is from where Jesus arrives, onwards. Live and let live etc.


    But I know that you know that. But of course, being an atheist you wouldn't subscribe to that. If its legal, fcuk the morality. Don't let me stop you with your antagonising.

    How to find the far right poster on boards: "Im right and everyone else is a sheeple"


    Dunno why you quoted ME for that. I'm about as right-wing as Ghandi.

    Foxhound38 wrote: »
    tl;dr: everyone who is different than me is a "wierdo" or a "waster" :rolleyes:


    Good man yourself. Take a perfectly valid observation by a poster, apply your own prejudice, and then accuse the poster of the very thing he was highlighting. I her the circus is looking for entertainers, you might be in with a chance!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 125 ✭✭random1337


    Nodin wrote: »
    Nope.


    For a number of reasons, not the least of which being that it would be xenophobic.


    Racism, crude and ignorant you mean.


    Yeah, that's called progress, and its a good thing.


    Nonsense.

    So if in future Ireland is 90% inhabited by people with no Irish descent but have passports that say they are Irish, this is "Progress" and good for maintaining our sports, language and traditions?

    No the Japanese aren't racist, they just haven't been undermined by Modern thinking. Even though Japan is having a low birth rate problem it will still be Japanese. They are fully aware that by importing foreign people with high birth rates into their country where the native population isn't replacing themselves, that it is a mathematical certainty they will become an ethnic minority in their own country over a few generations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    newmug wrote: »
    Picking and choosing is what protestants do. ...................

    Good to see we've no crude sectarianism amongst the right.

    newmug wrote: »
    but every time I log on here, I am offended left-right-and centre by the
    plastic-paddy sh1te
    that's tolerated on here

    Whats this about, exactly?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    newmug wrote: »
    Picking and choosing is what protestants do. What you've mentioned there about slaves, shellfish etc. is from the old testament. That's the Jewish bit. The Christian / Catholic bit is from where Jesus arrives, onwards. Live and let live etc.


    But I know that you know that. But of course, being an atheist you wouldn't subscribe to that. If its legal, fcuk the morality. Don't let me stop you with your antagonising.


    Ah I see now! The Catholics ignore the Old Testament and have never done anything wrong? In of themselves they've not done enough damage the world over to be reviled and their teachings thrown in the bin.

    Many Thanks for clearing that up.

    Oh and Jews are evil, right geddit, geddit.

    There are many good people in any faith. There are many though that wouldn;t know morality if it walked up and slapped them across the face.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    random1337 wrote: »
    So if in future Ireland is 90% inhabited by people with no Irish descent but have passports that say they are Irish this is "Progress" and good for maintaining our sports, language and traditions?


    ...how the hell would that happen? Mass parachute invasion? Where would the Irish people living here have gone? Would they go out for a swim together and discover the country had been taken over when they got back to shore?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    newmug wrote: »
    Picking and choosing is what protestants do. What you've mentioned there about slaves, shellfish etc. is from the old testament. That's the Jewish bit. The Christian / Catholic bit is from where Jesus arrives, onwards. Live and let live etc.


    Both books are the word of God, the same God and JC himself stated that The Ot is not to be disregarded:

    "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place."

    And ummmmmm The 10 commandments were in The OT.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Both books are the word of God, the same God and JC himself stated that The Ot is not to be disregarded:

    "Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place."

    And ummmmmm The 10 commandments were in The OT.....

    And sure it's not as if the Bibles been written, rewritten, translated and bookes removed to serve anyone purpose long after the death of the bearded one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    random1337 wrote: »
    So if in future Ireland is 90% inhabited by people with no Irish descent but have passports that say they are Irish, this is "Progress" and good for maintaining our sports, language and traditions?

    No the Japanese aren't racist, they just haven't been undermined by Modern thinking. Even though Japan is having a low birth rate problem it will still be Japanese. They are fully aware that by importing foreign people with high birth rates into their country where the native population isn't replacing themselves, that it is a mathematical certainty they will become an ethnic minority in their own country.

    How far back in time does this go?
    Are The Celts just johnny come latelys?

    Should we expel anyone with Viking, Scottish. English, Spanish genes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,642 ✭✭✭MRnotlob606


    halal is it meat your looking for ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 219 ✭✭todders


    random1337 wrote: »
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_values

    Just drop it and leave me alone.

    You just undermined your argument, that must be embarrassing for you..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 125 ✭✭random1337


    Nodin wrote: »
    ...how the hell would that happen? Mass parachute invasion? Where would the Irish people living here have gone? Would they go out for a swim together and discover the country had been taken over when they got back to shore?

    Let's take a look at what happened in the Yugoslav wars. Kosovo, a province originally belonging to Serbia had a Serbian majority/Albanian minority (80/20% I believe) in the 1920s. In the 1990s it was 75% Muslim Albanian and 25% native Serbs and then **** hit the fan. This demographic change was simply due to immigration and a difference in birth rates.

    In case you haven't noticed, average Irish couples these days don't have more than 2 kids (only replacing themselves) whereas African and Arab immigrants are at 3.74 off the top of my head. Demographics WILL change drastically in this country within the space of 50 years.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,934 ✭✭✭MarkAnthony


    Irish Sports - More has been done for Irish Sport by Sky than anything else. Sports survive because they're good not because we close the borders and carry on playing ball in a cup.

    Irish Language - I moved here 15 years ago. There were about 4 chinese people and a black guy in the whole of Dublin. The language was as dead as a do do then. I look back of historical footage of Ireland, feck me if they're not all speaking English.

    Ancestry me arse - half the world thinks they're is Irish.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 125 ✭✭random1337


    How far back in time does this go?
    Are The Celts just johnny come latelys?

    Should we expel anyone with Viking, Scottish. English, Spanish genes?

    Let's not sugarcoat this shall we, we all know this is about preserving the Christian faith and keeping fair hair & blue/light eye genes alive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    random1337 wrote: »
    Let's take a look at what happened in the Yugoslav wars. Kosovo, a province originally belonging to Serbia had a Serbian majority/Albanian minority (80/20% I believe) in the 1920s. In the 1990s it was 75% Muslim Albanian and 25% native Serbs and then **** hit the fan. This demographic change was simply due to immigration and a difference in birth rates.

    In case you haven't noticed, average Irish couples these days don't have more than 2 kids (only replacing themselves) whereas African and Arab immigrants are at 3.74 off the top of my head. Demographics WILL change drastically in this country within the space of 50 years.


    But if they have children that are born and raised here, and those children have children etc, they will be Irish with Irish descendants......


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    random1337 wrote: »
    Let's take a look at what happened in the Yugoslav wars. Kosovo, a province originally belonging to Serbia had a Serbian majority/Albanian minority (80/20% I believe) in the 1920s. In the 1990s it was 75% Muslim Albanian and 25% native Serbs and then **** hit the fan. This demographic change was simply due to immigration and a difference in birth rates.

    In case you haven't noticed, average Irish couples these days don't have more than 2 kids (only replacing themselves) whereas African and Arab immigrants are at 3.74 off the top of my head. Demographics WILL change drastically in this country within the space of 50 years.

    What is 'Irish'???
    What is the time line for when one stops being non native and becomes native?

    people have moved round the globe since we walked out of Africa. Its called change. i like it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 125 ✭✭random1337


    Nodin wrote: »
    But if they have children that are born and raised here, and those children have children etc, they will be Irish with Irish descendants......

    Really where did you learn that from? Your sociology professor?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    random1337 wrote: »
    Really where did you learn that from? Your sociology professor?

    It's a statement of the fairly obvious. Whats the problem with it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 18,325 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    random1337 wrote: »
    Let's not sugarcoat this shall we, we all know this is about preserving the Christian faith and keeping fairhair & blue/light eye genes alive.

    Surely you mean REDhair & blue/light eye genes alive?????:eek:

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    random1337 wrote: »
    Let's not sugarcoat this shall we, we all know this is about preserving the Christian faith and keeping fair hair & blue/light eye genes alive.

    But Christianity is a recent thing in the history of this island. I personally consider celtic pagans more 'irish' than the middle eastern/ Roman death cult followers.

    Oh and ps. You sound lie a nazi.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 125 ✭✭random1337


    What is 'Irish'???
    What is the time line for when one stops being non native and becomes native?

    people have moved round the globe since we walked out of Africa. Its called change. i like it.

    I think pre-leftist thinking an Irish person was someone who was classed as "Caucasoid" and engaged in Irish culture


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    random1337 wrote: »
    I think pre-leftist thinking an Irish person was someone who was classed as "Caucasoid" and engaged in Irish culture


    Back in the days of narrow racists definitions perhaps. You still haven't explain what was wrong with my post about peoples descendants etc.


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