The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V2

the baby bull elephant

The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »

I am not sure on this but I dont think the stats work like that (end of year) I believe the stats are based on the teams record the day the team faces them.

As a Lions fan I do have a lot of experience with this stat. It's based on their end of year record hence why game like the first Vikings one last year (I think it was) don't count towards it.

Billy86

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

That girl who took a knee after singing the national anthem in Tennessee is a tool. Same with the guitar player.

If she felt that strongly, she'd have refused to sing it in the first place. But no, because that'd mean she'd have went without the attention and publicity. So she wants the best of both worlds.

I didn't see that, but it crossed my mind yesterday if I were a singer who was on the side of kneeling which would be the better option: kneel after singing, or no-show the event with less than 24 hours notice, possibly less than 5-6 hours notice if they hadn't picked up on it until that morning.

Billy86

the baby bull elephant wrote: »

Actually no he's not. That stat is only cemented at the end of the season when/if the Falcons are 9-7 are better.

It's also a bit of a bull**** stat that doesn't really account for a number of things.

Haven't you heard? American football is one guy vs another guy. The other 104 players are just there for the sake of it, they don't impact the game remotely in any way whatsoever.

Itssoeasy

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/sports/national-anthems-nfl.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

The New York times have an article about who did what yesterday in regards to the anthem.

Hazys

On a lighter note:

D9Male

JaMarcusHustle wrote: »

That girl who took a knee after singing the national anthem in Tennessee is a tool. Same with the guitar player.

If she felt that strongly, she'd have refused to sing it in the first place. But no, because that'd mean she'd have went without the attention and publicity. So she wants the best of both worlds.

I think by not singing, she wouldn't have gotten to make the stand on national TV broadcast into millions of home. It was a pretty effective way of getting her point across in my book.

helimachoptor

D9Male wrote: »

I think by not singing, she wouldn't have gotten to make the stand on national TV broadcast into millions of home. It was a pretty effective way of getting her point across in my book.

tbh i was watching the game and didnt even realise she knelt until this morning

D9Male

Yeah, but if she didn't sing it in protest, you wouldn't have reaslied it at all.

Manic Moran

According to the radio this afternoon, the highest selling jersey of all NFL players right now is that of Villanueva. He himself claims that it was a mistake, that he didn't mean to be out there and break ranks. Still, his wallet is apparently benefitting from the mistake as the fans are apparently focusing on him. CNN says he gets 2/3 of the profit from each shirt.

Manic Moran

Double post.

Beefy78

Clementine Scary String wrote: »

Still don't even see where they could have been coming from with the Shepard call tbh NFL refs are awful

It isn't the refs it's the rule. Shepard's TD wasn't a catch by the letter of the rules and it was embarrassing that he didn't seem to understand this as he danced down the sideline.

The refs can only make a call on what happens and by rule it was an incomplete pass.

j8wk2feszrnpao

Beefy78 wrote: »

It isn't the refs it's the rule. Shepard's TD wasn't a catch by the letter of the rules and it was embarrassing that he didn't seem to understand this as he danced down the sideline.

The refs can only make a call on what happens and by rule it was an incomplete pass.

I think he knew he lost the ball, hence the dance to try cover it up,
I think the eye test said it was a catch, but the rules didn't.

Lionbacker

Spanish commentary on the Jake Elliott field goal:D

https://twitter.com/Eagles/status/912313443134271488?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bleedinggreennation.com%2F2017%2F9%2F25%2F16362146%2Fjake-elliott-field-goal-eagles-giants-game-winning-philadelphia-new-york-kick-merrill-reese-spanish

Knex*

Ah stop. I can't even bring myself to watch that again. Haven't looked at anything from that game since the moment that ball sneaked inside the post.

brinty

Knex. wrote: »

Ah stop. I can't even bring myself to watch that again. Haven't looked at anything from that game since the moment that ball sneaked inside the post.

Knex, i know you're a pretty level headed guy and solid giants supporter but whats going on with them?? Is it bad O-Line, Eli not being good enough, McAdoo not up to it, something else????

Is there any fix that could be put in place and help sort it out.

For the last two years the Giants have made baffling first round picks in Apple and Engram and failed to address their need for O-Line studs when they were available. You could audibly hear the groans and frustration of giants nation when Gioddell announced the picks.

Knex*

brinty wrote: »

Knex, i know you're a pretty level headed guy and solid giants supporter but whats going on with them?? Is it bad O-Line, Eli not being good enough, McAdoo not up to it, something else????

Is there any fix that could be put in place and help sort it out.

For the last two years the Giants have made baffling first round picks in Apple and Engram and failed to address their need for O-Line studs when they were available. You could audibly hear the groans and frustration of giants nation when Gioddell announced the picks.

Hard to really sum it all up in a quick post, but here goes it.

Eli has actually been OK. First game he was poor, but I genuinely think he was shell shocked. The OL has given him happy feet, and tbh, I find it hard to blame him that much. He hasn't been able to hold onto the ball for more than two seconds since the first few games in 2012. That is not a joke.

He got whacked on the first series in the 3rd pre season game, and each of the first two games of this year. All three were sacks, I believe.

Without OBJ, it was miserable to watch as teams can just put 7 in coverage as we've no run game, and then you don't have a superstar to force separation. Even the progress we made in the 4th quarter last Sunday was down to some exceptional throws, such as the TD to Shepard, and the other TDs were outstanding catches from Odell. Add to that the fact that Eagles secondary was depleted and they inexplicably played soft coverage, and I don't know if we can really call it progress. Looking for opposition ineptness and your team to make insane plays to even move the ball is not really a foundation for success.

Also, Eli got the ball out an average of 1.6 seconds. Far lower than the next QB. Again, DBs will smarten up to this as we can't sustain any blocks, so they'l press and jump routes.

Our dept on defence isn't good enough to allow for the amount of time they have to be on the field. Opponents are running the ball at a far greater success rate than last year too, which has a little to do with this, but also just a sign of regression thus far on the defensive side of the ball.

McAdoo' offensive playcalling/game management has been annoying at times. He was notably arrogant in the media before the Cowboys, and his arrogance has translated in inexplicably going for it on 4th down on a few occasions when the team clearly should have opted for points on the board.

He went back to 90% three wide receiver sets there in the Eagles game, something he wanted to move away from last year, but I think he realises the OL just cannot get anything done for him. Aside from Seahawks, its the worst in the league. Eli's release and pre snap reads are the only reason he's not dead. The hit he took in our 2nd game honestly made me curl up in a ball in his behalf, it was that bad.

So yeah, good few issues but not a lot that can be done until the line is any way average. McAdoo has some issues, but I'm really not sure how much blame he can take either. Probably time to get rid of Reese and start investing in the OL next year.

brinty

Knex. wrote: »

Hard to really sum it all up in a quick post, but here goes it.

Eli has actually been OK. First game he was poor, but I genuinely think he was shell shocked. The OL has given him happy feet, and tbh, I find it hard to blame him that much. He hasn't been able to hold onto the ball for more than two seconds since the first few games in 2012. That is not a joke.

He got whacked on the first series in the 3rd pre season game, and each of the first two games of this year. All three were sacks, I believe.

Without OBJ, it was miserable to watch as teams can just put 7 in coverage as we've no run game, and then you don't have a superstar to force separation. Even the progress we made in the 4th quarter last Sunday was down to some exceptional throws, such as the TD to Shepard, and the other TDs were outstanding catches from Odell. Add to that the fact that Eagles secondary was depleted and they inexplicably played soft coverage, and I don't know if we can really call it progress. Looking for opposition ineptness and your team to make insane plays to even move the ball is not really a foundation for success.

Also, Eli got the ball out an average of 1.6 seconds. Far lower than the next QB. Again, DBs will smarten up to this as we can't sustain any blocks, so they'l press and jump routes.

Our dept on defence isn't good enough to allow for the amount of time they have to be on the field. Opponents are running the ball at a far greater success rate than last year too, which has a little to do with this, but also just a sign of regression thus far on the defensive side of the ball.

McAdoo' offensive playcalling/game management has been annoying at times. He was notably arrogant in the media before the Cowboys, and his arrogance has translated in inexplicably going for it on 4th down on a few occasions when the team clearly should have opted for points on the board.

He went back to 90% three wide receiver sets there in the Eagles game, something he wanted to move away from last year, but I think he realises the OL just cannot get anything done for him. Aside from Seahawks, its the worst in the league. Eli's release and pre snap reads are the only reason he's not dead. The hit he took in our 2nd game honestly made me curl up in a ball in his behalf, it was that bad.

So yeah, good few issues but not a lot that can be done until the line is any way average. McAdoo has some issues, but I'm really not sure how much blame he can take either. Probably time to get rid of Reese and start investing in the OL next year.

Cheers Knex,
Really good view point. Always enjoy reading your posts.

Knex*

Ah cheers Brinty, much appreciated. Likewise!

One thing McAdoo started doing in the Eagles game that might be of note, is that instead of even trying to run the ball on first down, he opted for quick passes that gained a couple of yards to try and prevent third and long situations. Be interesting to see if this continues.

Eli actually has the 2nd highest completion % in the league right now at 72% or something.

jack presley

Knex. wrote: »

Hard to really sum it all up in a quick post, but here goes it.

Eli has actually been OK. First game he was poor, but I genuinely think he was shell shocked. The OL has given him happy feet, and tbh, I find it hard to blame him that much. He hasn't been able to hold onto the ball for more than two seconds since the first few games in 2012. That is not a joke.

He got whacked on the first series in the 3rd pre season game, and each of the first two games of this year. All three were sacks, I believe.

Without OBJ, it was miserable to watch as teams can just put 7 in coverage as we've no run game, and then you don't have a superstar to force separation. Even the progress we made in the 4th quarter last Sunday was down to some exceptional throws, such as the TD to Shepard, and the other TDs were outstanding catches from Odell. Add to that the fact that Eagles secondary was depleted and they inexplicably played soft coverage, and I don't know if we can really call it progress. Looking for opposition ineptness and your team to make insane plays to even move the ball is not really a foundation for success.

Also, Eli got the ball out an average of 1.6 seconds. Far lower than the next QB. Again, DBs will smarten up to this as we can't sustain any blocks, so they'l press and jump routes.

Our dept on defence isn't good enough to allow for the amount of time they have to be on the field. Opponents are running the ball at a far greater success rate than last year too, which has a little to do with this, but also just a sign of regression thus far on the defensive side of the ball.

McAdoo' offensive playcalling/game management has been annoying at times. He was notably arrogant in the media before the Cowboys, and his arrogance has translated in inexplicably going for it on 4th down on a few occasions when the team clearly should have opted for points on the board.

He went back to 90% three wide receiver sets there in the Eagles game, something he wanted to move away from last year, but I think he realises the OL just cannot get anything done for him. Aside from Seahawks, its the worst in the league. Eli's release and pre snap reads are the only reason he's not dead. The hit he took in our 2nd game honestly made me curl up in a ball in his behalf, it was that bad.

So yeah, good few issues but not a lot that can be done until the line is any way average. McAdoo has some issues, but I'm really not sure how much blame he can take either. Probably time to get rid of Reese and start investing in the OL next year.

Quick post? You must be the fastest typer in the world...!!!

MileHighGuy

https://twitter.com/ShaunOHara60/status/912372456245141504

Talking about Olines underperforming... quite interesting from Shaun O'Hara and Geoff Schwarz (in link), where they breakdown an unusual strategy by the Seahawks OL. I've never seen this before.

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/9/25/16363040/seattle-seahawks-offensive-line-failing-very-badly-whiffed-blocks

Knex.

Knex. wrote: »

Ah cheers Brinty, much appreciated. Likewise!

One thing McAdoo started doing in the Eagles game that might be of note, is that instead of even trying to run the ball on first down, he opted for quick passes that gained a couple of yards to try and prevent third and long situations. Be interesting to see if this continues.

Eli actually has the 2nd highest completion % in the league right now at 72% or something.

Worth noting that because the eagles have 0 cbs they where playing like 10 yards off each play eddectivly giving up the slant could be more of an issue agains a team with corners

Hazys

This is hilarious, Ray Lewis saying Ray Lewis things

"Nobody don't know what they talking bout"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwUfcnfL2LI

JaMarcusHustle

I still don't know if he's in favour of protesting or not.

Everytime I watch him, I could easily be watching a sketch show where someone is doing an over-the-top impression of him.

But on the other hand...

Itssoeasy

I don't listen to Ray Lewis with anything he says. He has no moral authority to be pontificating when he has a shady past and comes across as a very dishonest and fake person.

jack presley

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I don't listen to Ray Lewis with anything he says. He has no moral authority to be pontificating when he has a shady past and comes across as a very dishonest and fake person.

I can't remember the player or the exact details but when he first got a job as a talking head for ESPN he came out an criticised somebody for being vague and saying nothing in an interview about some indiscretion he was accused of. Talk about doing a complete flip flop.

Billy86

So Ray Lewis... for president?

Knex*

Billy86 wrote: »

So Ray Lewis... for president?

Commissioner. Make NFL great again.

jack presley

fair play to them both

https://twitter.com/thescore/status/913156292386070528

TOss Sweep

Billy86 wrote: »

So Ray Lewis... for president?

Sad thing is if he ran he could probably win.

mikemac2

Ray Lewis talks absolute nonsense and sees a conspiracy in every situation. Constantly uploading videos while sitting in his car on current topics and you are guaranteed a few praise the lord (though many NFL players are the same ) and at the end you have no idea what his point was

HOF footballer but no business being in the media. I bought his autobiography and after reading his account I still have no clue what happened in Atlanta

Before he retired some Ravens fans believed he would be a coach but that was never going to happen. Ed Reed got a job in Buffalo, now he was the potential coach

"That's not me," Flacco says. "I love Ray, and I love how he always spoke from the heart, but if you listened to those speeches, a lot of them didn't even make sense. He meant everything he was saying, but I didn't know what he was talking about 90 percent of the time."

You said it Joe