Aer Lingus Fleet/Routes Discussion

knucklehead6

Well it's all over the place now. Along with the usual "thank god this didn't happen in the air" comments

Nibs05

EI-DUO due back in Dublin at 9am also I believe EI-FNG had some sort of engine explosion in Boston due to a bird strike

Nibs05

Nibs05 wrote: »

EI-DUO due back in Dublin at 9am also I believe EI-FNG had some sort of engine explosion in Boston due to a bird strike

Yeah she having her engine changed in Boston.

adam88

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yeah she having her engine changed in Boston.

Might be off topic but what's the cost incurred with this and what happens to the old engine

JCX BXC

Another week of Shannon cancellations?

Tenger

Carnacalla wrote: »

Another week of Shannon cancellations?

An engine change will impact the operation for max 2 days. If there are any cancellatioms/hire ins it will be on the route with the lowest loadfactor/connecting traffic/J Class pax. Therefore each route stands on its own performance.

JCX BXC

Tenger wrote: »

An engine change will impact the operation for max 2 days. If there are any cancellatioms/hire ins it will be on the route with the lowest loadfactor/connecting traffic/J Class pax. Therefore each route stands on its own performance.

Which I accept, but after several cancellations over the last week it damages the reputation of the routes.

Jack1985

Carnacalla wrote: »

Which I accept, but after several cancellations over the last week it damages the reputation of the routes.

I agree to an extent but lets face it, its not like the Clare Herald need another excuse for EI bashing. The selected canx flights will meet the criteria as outlined by Tenger.

JCX BXC

Jack1985 wrote: »

I agree to an extent but lets face it, its not like the Clare Herald need another excuse for EI bashing. The selected canx flights will meet the criteria as outlined by Tenger.

The Clare Herald takes it overboard. Every cancellation shouldn't be reported, but days of them should really.

Should the airline not start making arrangements for spare/hire in capacity after days and days of cancellation? 900 passengers off of 3 return flights isn't exactly a small amount.

Assuming the fleet at EI continues to grow, will this not make technical issues more frequent among the fleet, and leading to the Shannon routes being cancelled all the time?

And as a side remark, how is a SNN 757 supposed to contend with a DUB A330? The Aer Lingus routes at Shannon have shocking reliability in comparison to the transatlanic routes of other airlines in Shannon, so they really are hurting themselves in terms of image.

Jack1985

EI139 to Boston this evening is being operated by an A330-200 from HiFly.

Jack1985

Carnacalla wrote: »

The Clare Herald takes it overboard. Every cancellation shouldn't be reported, but days of them should really.

Should the airline not start making arrangements for spare/hire in capacity after days and days of cancellation? 900 passengers off of 3 return flights isn't exactly a small amount.

Assuming the fleet at EI continues to grow, will this not make technical issues more frequent among the fleet, and leading to the Shannon routes being cancelled all the time?

And as a side remark, how is a SNN 757 supposed to contend with a DUB A330? The Aer Lingus routes at Shannon have shocking reliability in comparison to the transatlanic routes of other airlines in Shannon, so they really are hurting themselves in terms of image.

Agree with you regard technical slack, it's something that has to be planned for although try explain that to the bean counters, at the end of the day aircraft only make money in the air.

Shannon has had its share of cancellations, agreed much higher than at DUB. But it's simply due to the fact, it'll be less costly for hire ins, less affected pax and less affected changes to crewing which can be much more of a headache for any airline with crews and/or aircraft out of place (More on the 330 operation than on the 757).

JCX BXC

Jack1985 wrote: »

EI139 to Boston this evening is being operated by an A330-200 from HiFly.

EI-LBT positioned to SNN this morning, EI-DUO is home in DUB.

adam88

Jack1985 wrote: »

EI139 to Boston this evening is being operated by an A330-200 from HiFly.

Is it their pilots and cabin crew that crew these flights. Would the service be much similiar to EI

Locker10a

adam88 wrote: »

Is it their pilots and cabin crew that crew these flights. Would the service be much similiar to EI

Yes HiFly crew, service is probably not the same/ inferior product but it's better than your flight being cancelled !!
Aer Lingus used to put a senior crew member onboard as a rep from EI on some charted out work but I don't know if it's done on short notice like this rescue operation

JCX BXC

Locker10a wrote: »

Yes HiFly crew, service is probably not the same/ inferior product but it's better than your flight being cancelled !!
Aer Lingus used to put a senior crew member onboard as a rep from EI on some charted out work but I don't know if it's done on short notice like this rescue operation

They put a rep on the SNN-BOS flights which were charted to Omni this summer.

Actually how were the reviews of the service this summer? Better than last summer?

Jack1985

And I suppose in all fairness being down two 330's in the space of a week can't even be seen through statistics.

I'd be interested to learn the reason for FNG's rto last night, is a bird strike confirmed?

billie1b

New engine wont be in BOS until Tuesday, the engineering team that were in MCO are heading up to BOS to carry out the repairs.
Its a confirmed RTO due to multiple bird strike.

knucklehead6

billie1b wrote: »

New engine wont be in BOS until Tuesday, the engineering team that were in MCO are heading up to BOS to carry out the repairs.
Its a confirmed RTO due to multiple bird strike.

Nothing about it on AV herald.

billie1b

knucklehead6 wrote: »

Nothing about it on AV herald.

Maybe EI are trying to keep it under wraps just like they were trying for DUO

Jamie2k9

billie1b wrote: »

Maybe EI are trying to keep it under wraps just like they were trying for DUO

They couldn't hide this even if they tried. Would expect it to appear soon.

Jack1985

billie1b wrote: »

New engine wont be in BOS until Tuesday, the engineering team that were in MCO are heading up to BOS to carry out the repairs.
Its a confirmed RTO due to multiple bird strike.

Jesus christ. Multiple issues last October as well just as the Summer season concludes. :P

And all 3 events since last Wednesday week outside the control of the company.

Jack1985

:eek: (Outbound HiFly crew this evening operating the return after minimum rest...)

Jack1985

Hearing the bird strike on FNG occurred on the inbound EI139 during landing? No RTO?

Jamie2k9

Jack1985 wrote: »

:eek: (Outbound HiFly crew this evening operating the return after minimum rest...)

Guess it means they may be using it again tomorrow afternoon...and hopefully get crew in place for few days?

Otherwise 24 hours in BOS and more cancelled flights or hire in.

Jack1985

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Guess it means they may be using it again tomorrow afternoon...and hopefully get crew in place for few days?

Otherwise 24 hours in BOS and more cancelled flights or hire in.

Crew taking the 139 out this evening will operate the above pictured service tonight from Boston with a near 12 hour delay after minimum rest on Sunday morning.. Another hire in tomorrow for Dublin definite.

ShanE90

Is FNG just two weeks old?

Jamie2k9

ShanE90 wrote: »

Is FNG just two weeks old?

Been flying for around 6 weeks with EI, FNH is 2 weeks.

robyntmorton

ShanE90 wrote: »

Is FNG just two weeks old?

About 6 weeks now. FNH is the latest, and is only a couple of weeks old.

Jack1985

Would I be off the wall in saying I thought this is would be when being part of IAG became valuable. BA and Iberia surely have spare aircraft and crew's that would be cheaper than hire-in's or would I be wrong?

JCX BXC

ShanE90 wrote: »

Is FNG just two weeks old?

Began commercial ops on the 11th of September!