Negative effects of smoking forms of cannabis

Generic Dreadhead

FullblownRose wrote: »

k..the all or nothing bit refers to the photo memes stating it cures cancer, (if you use Facebook, you might have seen these ones)which in fairness it might (in the form of an oil)-and they are adults- older than me, late thirties uo to mid forties.

I don't think teenagers feel the need to justify themselves in their expperimentation, or something. I think I prefer not to have people justifying themselves to me

I really don't care what people do but I can't help but notice the correlation between the postings about the myriad alleged benefits, and the increase in my friends intake and the change in their personality- here I can't look sideways at them without them imbuing an innocent look with some meaning.
It doesn't feel different to a drunk ready for a fight, really.

There's a lot of f**king idiots on Facebook.
Hopefully you will find the below helpful and it will protect you from the Pictures+Words=Truth spiral

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2013/12/03/how-to-unfollow-someyet-yet-still-be-facebook-friends/

Generic Dreadhead

LexieOnRale wrote: »

The only difference is most people would only get that bad once or twice a week, whereas chronic weed smokers are stoned constantly. Constantly aggressive and constantly putting fear into whoevers in their company.

I'm just gonna call bollox on this as it's straight up an absolute tiny minority that do this and it sounds like that person was prone to violence and scare mongering anyway.

It's akin to me being burned by a Bic Lighter and saying Bic pens are more likely to cause accidents than other pens

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I know cocaine is a much worse drug than weed but I'd actually prefer someone do a line or two of that on a Saturday night than smoke weed every day.

This.... this is just..... i dunno....

It's like saying i'd rather someone drink a Litre of Absinthe that drink a glass and a half of wine a day.

Its like you have no concept of danger or threat, I'm not having a go but your views are clouded, misjudged and incorrect in this instance Lexie.

Offside

I smoked pretty full on for a few years during college. Near the end I just realised I wasn't enjoying it anymore. I was barely able to communicate with others when I was stoned and went deep into my own thoughts, over analysing every situation I'd faced that day/ in previous days, to the point where I would believe I'd done something wrong or pissed someone off over tiny daily interactions. I eventually came to a realisation that I was paying to feel this way and why would I do that?

Most of my friends still smoke away and I still chill with them and say no thanks to the weed, it doesn't suit me - only time I ever have a couple of tokes is when I'm wasted after a night out, then I enjoy it and because I'm not smoking every day when I do this every couple of months I get the giggles and enjoy it

DamagedTrax

Offside wrote: »

I smoked pretty full on for a few years...

...I get the giggles and enjoy it

thats exactly the kind of self awareness i was talking about. no 'evil killer weed' hysteria, just 'it doesnt work for me personally'

thomas anderson.

It levels me out completely, complete sense of apathy. Alcohol does that to me too though. If I stay off both for a while my moods are much better.

I do love a bit of smoke though

gosplan

Pretty sure the weed being regulated in the US specifies low THC, high cannaboids. Basically this means less psychosis, more chill.

I think that I independent article quoted is spot on. Weed has changed hugely.

Legalising controlled forms of it is the only solution.

I'm a teacher and have literally seen kids have meltdowns/breaks from smoking what's around nowadays.

It is NOT the same thing as you got in the 80's or 90's.

DamagedTrax

gosplan wrote: »

Pretty sure the weed being regulated in the US specifies low THC, high cannaboids. Basically this means less psychosis, more chill.

I think that I independent article quoted is spot on. Weed has changed hugely.

Legalising controlled forms of it is the only solution.

I'm a teacher and have literally seen kids have meltdowns/breaks from smoking what's around nowadays.

It is NOT the same thing as you got in the 80's or 90's.

certain areas, where weed is legal for recreational use, have no such restrictions but do have weight restrictions (colorado for one).

https://www.coloradopotguide.com/marijuana-laws-in-colorado/



high CBD, average THC levels is my smoke of choice. some of the stuff on the street is just ridiculous.

i tried a strain of 'amnesia' that was going around a while back. last time i ever made that mistake. im an experienced smoker and that crap made me a little off in the brain for a few hours.

legalisation is definitely the only solution but decriminalisation needs to be rushed thru before we even think of establishing an industry based on it. its more important that kids stop getting jailed with scumbags before anything else is looked at.

Drakares

FullblownRose wrote: »

More about..?

If you mean the negative effects I mentoned I just mean a change in their attitude, they became quite defensive, suspicious and paranoid..not their usual selves.

Prickly, difficult, uncomfortable to be around. Cliquey. Odd. Just not ..like their usual selves.

This is down to your friends ability to deal with the effects it causes.

My father cannot drink whiskey without becoming aggressive.

One guy can snort coke a few times a week and go on to be a normal person. The next one will do the same thing then jump out a window because he was off his head and couldn't handle it.

Different substances affect people differently.

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Cormac... wrote: »

I'm just gonna call bollox on this as it's straight up an absolute tiny minority that do this and it sounds like that person was prone to violence and scare mongering anyway.

It's akin to me being burned by a Bic Lighter and saying Bic pens are more likely to cause accidents than other pens



This.... this is just..... i dunno....

It's like saying i'd rather someone drink a Litre of Absinthe that drink a glass and a half of wine a day.

Its like you have no concept of danger or threat, I'm not having a go but your views are clouded, misjudged and incorrect in this instance Lexie.

Turn it back on alcohol. If you're being abused by an alcoholic, who treated you fine before writing themselves, you can be sure you'd be blaming alcohol

Generic Dreadhead

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Turn it back on alcohol. If you're being abused by an alcoholic, who treated you fine before writing themselves, you can be sure you'd be blaming alcohol

I'd blame both

DamagedTrax

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Turn it back on alcohol. If you're being abused by an alcoholic, who treated you fine before writing themselves, you can be sure you'd be blaming alcohol

alcohol is a both a physical and mental addiction, like heroin. it destroys the body at an alarming rate when abused. the evidence is plain to see in front of your eyes.

to try and compare it to weed shows a lack of understanding of either substance.

Sea Sharp

There's good reason to be wary of weed. But nowhere near enough of a reason to continue criminalising users and missing out on tax revenue.

Fat Christy

Cormac... wrote: »

I'd blame both

You're still here? (In AHers I mean :P)

I didn't think you'd last this long. I'm not stalking ya, just saying...:o:pac:

barneyrubble46

Stupid stupid, weed is a drug, smoking it you are doubling your chances of all sorts of problems cancer or otherwise. Its simple don't do drugs, no excuses. After all if you where on a plane and your pilot pipped up, I just done a line of coke or just smoked a spliff, how would you feel about that. It ok?? No of course not. Drugs are not ok.

DamagedTrax

barneyrubble46 wrote: »

Stupid stupid, weed is a drug, smoking it you are doubling your chances of all sorts of problems cancer or otherwise. Its simple don't do drugs, no excuses. After all if you where on a plane and your pilot pipped up, I just done a line of coke or just smoked a spliff, how would you feel about that. It ok?? No of course not. Drugs are not ok.

yea cause we all sit around in work getting baked. work places are so cool like that :rolleyes:

drugs are bad mmmk?

FullblownRose

Cormac... wrote: »

I'm just gonna call bollox on this as it's straight up an absolute tiny minority that do this and it sounds like that person was prone to violence and scare mongering anyway.

It's akin to me being burned by a Bic Lighter and saying Bic pens are more likely to cause accidents than other pens



This.... this is just..... i dunno....

It's like saying i'd rather someone drink a Litre of Absinthe that drink a glass and a half of wine a day.

Its like you have no concept of danger or threat, I'm not having a go but your views are clouded, misjudged and incorrect in this instance Lexie.

I do not believe theyre in a small minority. I know people from parts of the UK where mining towns became redundant and unemployment was rife, hash was taken like cornflakes for breakfast. For some reason it took hold there and mostly with men, and they were like cabbages. They were literally 'stoned' and out-of-it, and difficult to be around, This is why you'll see certain sectors of society more against cannabis smoking than others.

mikom

barneyrubble46 wrote: »

After all if you where on a plane and your pilot pipped up, I just done a line of coke or just smoked a spliff, how would you feel about that.

I'd feel peeved that the airline authorities were not carrying out a staunch drug testing policy.

What a stupid fuckin' question.

After all if you were on a plane and your pilot pipped up, I just downed a bottle of cough mixture or just drank a quart of vodka, how would you feel about that.

See........ stupid fuckin' question.

Generic Dreadhead

Fat Christy wrote: »

You're still here? (In AHers I mean :P)

I didn't think you'd last this long. I'm not stalking ya, just saying...:o:pac:

Well I'm not banned..... yet :pac:

FullblownRose

barneyrubble46 wrote: »

Stupid stupid, weed is a drug, smoking it you are doubling your chances of all sorts of problems cancer or otherwise. Its simple don't do drugs, no excuses. After all if you where on a plane and your pilot pipped up, I just done a line of coke or just smoked a spliff, how would you feel about that. It ok?? No of course not. Drugs are not ok.

I've seen a woman lying under a blanket on a bed, no alcohol taken, just stoned from cannabis..she didn't drink or smoke cigarettes, only smoked cannabis..her blanket covered in burn holes, even then i was amazed she had not burned the place down..often met her on single track back roads when it was clear she was stoned...we are supposed to believe this is the behaviour of either alcoholics or major drug abusers like heroin addicts..and the truth in my experience is people can be as nasty with simple cannabis as any other drug

Rented Mule

Negative effects: I spend more time on the couch eating things I probably shouldn't.

I'd like to think of myself as a responsible adult. I'm married with kids, good job, house paid off. I'm not an asshole when I go out drinking. I trying to respect others. When I want to get high with a few friends at a show or even just sitting around watching a few videos, I am going to do it.

I think a lot depend on the initial character of the people who are acting up after smoking some buds. Some people like to use the excuse that the 'drink' or 'cannabis' for their behavior. I like to think of those people as 'assholes'.

RWCNT

Why are so many people so defensive about weed?

I smoke every day but the guy is asking for examples of negative effects, not to have a debate on the merits of alcohol or other substances vs cannibus.

One eyed Jack

FullblownRose wrote: »

I've seen a woman lying under a blanket on a bed, no alcohol taken, just stoned from cannabis..she didn't drink or smoke cigarettes, only smoked cannabis..her blanket covered in burn holes, even then i was amazed she had not burned the place down..often met her on single track back roads when it was clear she was stoned...we are supposed to believe this is the behaviour of either alcoholics or major drug abusers like heroin addicts..and the truth in my experience is people can be as nasty with simple cannabis as any other drug

It can be though. The problem as such isn't the substance, but the abuse of the substance, whether it be alcohol, marijuana, heroin or cocaine. Some people don't need any alcohol or drugs to be nasty or engage in anti-social behavior. Some people alcohol or drugs just brings out the worst in them, and in some people, well, performance enhancing drugs only enhance performance up to a point, but even Viagra can have it's disadvantages if it's abused by the person who figures it's harmless.

strobe

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Turn it back on alcohol. If you're being abused by an alcoholic, who treated you fine before writing themselves, you can be sure you'd be blaming alcohol

I for one certainly wouldn't, I'd be blaming the person that continued drinking even though it made them lose control of their aggression and inhibition.

DEFTLEFTHAND

What are the physical negative effects to smoking cannabis? I see some articles linking it to things like lung cancer and others that say it's not a factor. Is it a carcinogen or not?

DamagedTrax

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What are the physical negative effects to smoking cannabis? I see some articles linking it to things like lung cancer and others that say it's not a factor. Is it a carcinogen or not?

burning any substance and inhaling it isnt good. vaping is a much safer option.

FullblownRose

People don't need to defend it any more than a person who takes an odd glass of wine has to defend that. I don't want to seem like I'm attacking, I'm honesltly not. At the same time I think just as alcoholics can go into denial and even try to cover up the effects and level of their alcohol use, so can cannabis users in some cases. Cannabis is the one being touted as the most natural and harless, and the one being least addressed in terms of harm and misuse. It's surely in users interest to be honest and open about it and accept that some don't get on with it and don't realise they don't get on with it. There's at least one erson on this thread who saw the bad side of a friend emerging after cannabis use, and I personally knw more examples of it happening

I would lie it to be legalised and fully explored in terms of medicinal properties and I think people denying any harmful effects are only delaying that from happening, for selfish reasons.

mikom

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Thanks to "harmless" weed I've had my nose broken at least twice (probably more but I was too ashamed to have it looked at. I've had my hand fractured, I've had countless black eyes and bruises. I've been shouted at spat at bullied pushed around and attacked for no reason.

I've been in two accidents where him being goofed off his mallet contributed to it.

He was fine, no bother, until he started smoking and then he became a horrible horrible person to be around

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I'm not arguing this for a second but it seems more acceptable to bash alcohol than weed. I agree drinking is just as bad, and can cause the same reaction. The only difference is most people would only get that bad once or twice a week, whereas chronic weed smokers are stoned constantly. Constantly aggressive and constantly putting fear into whoevers in their company.

I know cocaine is a much worse drug than weed but I'd actually prefer someone do a line or two of that on a Saturday night than smoke weed every day.

Who would have thought that abusing something could actually be detrimental to you or those around you.

For further info google............. wine, beer, scratch cards, lotto, the stock market, porn, sugar, fast food, motor bikes, work, TV etc. etc.

Ban them all I say.

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I know cocaine is a much worse drug than weed but I'd actually prefer someone do a line or two of that on a Saturday night than smoke weed every day.

You must love violence.
See below.....

Greater Manchester Police (GMP) investigated the link by drug-testing people arrested for violent offences.

Officers drug-tested 1,000 people arrested for violent offences in the seven month period to March last year.

Half tested positive for drugs and of these, 86% tested positive for cocaine.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/4985025/Police-study-links-cocaine-use-to-violence.html

New research findings from a study of 634 couples found that the more often they smoked marijuana, the less likely they were to engage in domestic violence.

The study, conducted by researchers in the University at Buffalo School of Public Health and Health Professions and Research Institute on Addictions (RIA), appeared in the online edition of Psychology of Addictive Behaviors in August.

The study attempted to clarify inconsistent findings about domestic violence among pot-smoking couples that primarily has been based on cross-sectional data (i.e., data from one point in time). Looking at couples over the first nine years of marriage, the study found:

More frequent marijuana use by husbands and wives (two-to-three times per month or more often) predicted less frequent intimate partner violence (IPV) perpetration by husbands.
Husbands’ marijuana use also predicted less frequent IPV perpetration by wives.
Couples in which both spouses used marijuana frequently reported the least frequent IPV perpetration.
The relationship between marijuana use and reduced partner violence was most evident among women who did not have histories of prior antisocial behavior.

http://www.buffalo.edu/news/releases/2014/08/031.html

FullblownRose wrote: »

they became quite defensive, suspicious and paranoid..not their usual selves.

I'm sure most women during the Salem witch trials acted similarly.
Nothing at all to do with the "law" catching up with you........

Drakares

barneyrubble46 wrote: »

Stupid stupid, weed is a drug, smoking it you are doubling your chances of all sorts of problems cancer or otherwise. Its simple don't do drugs, no excuses. After all if you where on a plane and your pilot pipped up, I just done a line of coke or just smoked a spliff, how would you feel about that. It ok?? No of course not. Drugs are not ok.

:pac:

Packrat

"I like to fry my mind with weed, so drugs are good mmmkkk"

"But but but ALCOHOL !!!!"

"Make poverty history; Cheaper drugs NOW!"

Sad sad people.

FullblownRose

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

What are the physical negative effects to smoking cannabis? I see some articles linking it to things like lung cancer and others that say it's not a factor. Is it a carcinogen or not?

Yes, cannabis smoking is more carcinogenic than the smooking of cigarettes.



http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/01/29/us-cancer-cannabis-idUSHKG10478820080129