Negative effects of smoking forms of cannabis

FullblownRose

Anyone know what I mean?

Total personality change, one minute the person is your friend, they are themself and the next they behave erratically and seem paranoid and very defensive...feel free to defend smoing cannabis, but I'm really asking for input from people who have seen the negative effects on friends.

I am all for research into anything that might hlp people medicinally too.

I wonder if it is a bad reaction to the resin, and if most people are fine if they smoke the pure stuff?

castletownman

There's a glass of water shaking on my table.

They're coming

Generic Dreadhead

Is it any different to someone who isn't suited to drinking?
You know the male who starts fights after alcohol or the female who cries uncontrollably.
Some people should just not do certain things as it brings out the worst in them, does not suit their personality and maybe exasperating existing medical conditions.
Cannabis for your friend is one of those things

Put here is my AH Response:
The only negative effects are having a big **** and being a complete legend <---- Enjoy

Professional Griefer

Cormac... wrote: »

Is it any different to someone who isn't suited to drinking?
You know the male who starts fights after alcohol or the female who cries uncontrollably

Nope, peoples bodies react differently to substances/medication/whatever.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Thanks to "harmless" weed I've had my nose broken at least twice (probably more but I was too ashamed to have it looked at. I've had my hand fractured, I've had countless black eyes and bruises. I've been shouted at spat at bullied pushed around and attacked for no reason.

I've been in two accidents where him being goofed off his mallet contributed to it.

He was fine, no bother, until he started smoking and then he became a horrible horrible person to be around

FullblownRose

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Thanks to "harmless" weed I've had my nose broken at least twice (probably more but I was too ashamed to have it looked at. I've had my hand fractured, I've had countless black eyes and bruises. I've been shouted at spat at bullied pushed around and attacked for no reason.

I've been in two accidents where him being goofed off his mallet contributed to it.

He was fine, no bother, until he started smoking and then he became a horrible horrible person to be around

I' sorry
Well this is the kind of thing I've heard from certain parts of the U.K where it seems to be as normal as eating cornflakes for breakfast. It seems to result in more harm than some would like others to believe.

I acceppt that there are people who are 'bad on' alcohol too but alcohol doesn't get any promotion as a curative, beneficial substance. It's the all or nothing promotion of cannabis that I find annoying and misleading.

I have defiinitely seen a change for the worst in friends who smoke cannabis. Other friends- two of them- see fine after smking it, but if there's to be a realistic overview of its benefits there should be a realistic view of it overall.

Professional Griefer

FullblownRose wrote: »

I' sorry
Well this is the kind of thing I've heard from certain parts of the U.K where it seems to be as normal as eating cornflakes for breakfast. It seems to result in more harm than some would like others to believe.

I acceppt that there are people who are 'bad on' alcohol too but alcohol doesn't get any promotion as a curative, beneficial substance. It's the all or nothing promotion of cannabis that I find annoying and misleading.

I have defiinitely seen a change for the worst in friends who smoke cannabis. Other friends- two of them- see fine after smking it, but if there's to be a realistic overview of its benefits there should be a realistic view of it overall.

Go ahead pls, I'd love to know more.

FullblownRose

Professional Griefer wrote: »

Go ahead pls, I'd love to know more.

More about..?

If you mean the negative effects I mentoned I just mean a change in their attitude, they became quite defensive, suspicious and paranoid..not their usual selves.

Prickly, difficult, uncomfortable to be around. Cliquey. Odd. Just not ..like their usual selves.

Micky Dolenz

It's like any substance. You take a lot of it, be it drink, weed, coke, painkillers and sooner or later you'll come unstuck.

Back in the day I could smoke a few J's with no bother. A period in my life that just phased out. Now if I could just kick this coke habit, id be gravy.

Generic Dreadhead

FullblownRose wrote: »

It's the all or nothing promotion of cannabis that I find annoying and misleading.

WTAF

FullblownRose wrote: »

Prickly, difficult, uncomfortable to be around. Cliquey. Odd. Just not ..like their usual selves.

Are these adults or teenagers?

folan

the psychological issues have been more than studied. there is plenty of evidence available to show that smoking weed can contribute to many issues there, especially with younger and developing brains.

However, I have never seen any studies which suggest that it results in increased aggression. I would be very interested to see some papers on this

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

FullblownRose wrote: »

More about..?

If you mean the negative effects I mentoned I just mean a change in their attitude, they became quite defensive, suspicious and paranoid..not their usual selves.

Prickly, difficult, uncomfortable to be around. Cliquey. Odd. Just not ..like their usual selves.

+1.

DamagedTrax

ive seen negative affects on people. most were adult enough to be able to decide that weed wasnt for them.

exactly the same way i decided alcohol wasnt for me. weed suits my personality much better

M5

We should all stick to the good (and purely coincidentally taxable) drugs!

Fat Christy

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Thanks to "harmless" weed I've had my nose broken at least twice (probably more but I was too ashamed to have it looked at. I've had my hand fractured, I've had countless black eyes and bruises. I've been shouted at spat at bullied pushed around and attacked for no reason.

I've been in two accidents where him being goofed off his mallet contributed to it.

He was fine, no bother, until he started smoking and then he became a horrible horrible person to be around

The same can be said for alcohol though....

Not everyone reacts the same way to weed. Some people are really horrible abusive drunks. Alcohol is a mind altering substance just like any other drug. Some drugs are worse than others, yes, but alcohol consumption can be just as dangerous as taking weed.

Donkey Oaty

folan wrote: »

However, I have never seen any studies which suggest that it results in increased aggression. I would be very interested to see some papers on this

It's skunk people are normally talking about when it comes to aggression, and it kind of distorts the debate - like using Absinthe as an argument for alcohol prohibition.

Very balanced article on it a few years ago by Rosie Boycott, long time legalisation advocate, here.

FullblownRose

Cormac... wrote: »

WTAF



Are these adults or teenagers?

k..the all or nothing bit refers to the photo memes stating it cures cancer, (if you use Facebook, you might have seen these ones)which in fairness it might (in the form of an oil)-and they are adults- older than me, late thirties uo to mid forties.

I don't think teenagers feel the need to justify themselves in their expperimentation, or something. I think I prefer not to have people justifying themselves to me

I really don't care what people do but I can't help but notice the correlation between the postings about the myriad alleged benefits, and the increase in my friends intake and the change in their personality- here I can't look sideways at them without them imbuing an innocent look with some meaning.
It doesn't feel different to a drunk ready for a fight, really.

Micky Dolenz

DamagedTrax wrote: »

ive seen negative affects on people. most were adult enough to be able to decide that weed wasnt for them.

exactly the same way i decided alcohol wasnt for me. weed suits my personality much better

That's a big call. I have a lot of respect for people who do that. Nothing worse than a mate persisting with a substance that clearly doesn't agree with them and turns them into a knob end.

sabat

The person above was just a plain old violent psychopath whether or not they were a smoker. I've been smoking for over 20 years and the most obvious side-effect on me is memory-loss/retaining information and the ability to read books for any period longer than a few minutes. For this reason I've given up daily usage and do about 5 or 6 weeks off then 1 week smoking. If it was legal this might change to buying 2 grams once a week or whenever I felt like it instead of being forced to buy a quarter ounce.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Fat Christy wrote: »

The same can be said for alcohol though....

Not everyone reacts the same way to weed. Some people are really horrible abusive drunks. Alcohol is a mind altering substance just like any other drug. Some drugs are worse than others, yes, but alcohol consumption can be just as dangerous as taking weed.

I'm not arguing this for a second but it seems more acceptable to bash alcohol than weed. I agree drinking is just as bad, and can cause the same reaction. The only difference is most people would only get that bad once or twice a week, whereas chronic weed smokers are stoned constantly. Constantly aggressive and constantly putting fear into whoevers in their company.

I know cocaine is a much worse drug than weed but I'd actually prefer someone do a line or two of that on a Saturday night than smoke weed every day.

DamagedTrax

Fat Christy wrote: »

but alcohol consumption can be just as dangerous as taking weed.

considering the alchol related deaths compared to weed related deaths, i would suggest that alcohol is a lot more dangerous than weed when taken in excess.

Montroseee

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

It's like any substance. You take a lot of it, be it drink, weed, coke, painkillers and sooner or later you'll come unstuck.

Back in the day I could smoke a few J's with no bother. A period in my life that just phased out. Now if I could just kick this coke habit, id be gravy.

Could you clarify whether this statement was a joke or not, I couldn't tell.

Fat Christy

DamagedTrax wrote: »

considering the alchol related deaths compared to weed related deaths, i would suggest that alcohol is a lot more dangerous than weed when taken in excess.

Or when a dodgy illegal batch is taken.......

Compare Ireland with a country that has legalised weed.

EDIT: Apologies, I misread your comment. Having a blonde moment here.

DamagedTrax

LexieOnRale wrote: »

The only difference is most people would only get that bad once or twice a week, whereas chronic weed smokers are stoned constantly. Constantly aggressive and constantly putting fear into whoevers in their company.

i dont know your situation but i can tell you that ive yet to meet an aggressive weed smoker. maybe thats my circle of friends so im not saying it doesnt happen but ive never encountered it in nearly 18 years of smoking it recreationally.

FullblownRose

DamagedTrax wrote: »

ive seen negative affects on people. most were adult enough to be able to decide that weed wasnt for them.

exactly the same way i decided alcohol wasnt for me. weed suits my personality much better

Please be assured I'm not against it completely, it might well suit you..but one friend in particular who is very anti-alcohol and a teetotaller, is one of the ones I'm thinking of right now, because she is smoking more than usual, or different stuff to what she usually sokes..and the change is so obvious to those of us wh now her. She used to be gentle but eith a fiery streak when the need arose, now she is irrational.

How do you know whether you are taking to it well?

waxer1986

Fat Christy wrote: »

The same can be said for alcohol though....

Not everyone reacts the same way to weed. Some people are really horrible abusive drunks. Alcohol is a mind altering substance just like any other drug. Some drugs are worse than others, yes, but alcohol consumption can be just as dangerous as taking weed.

alcohol is way worse

sabat

LexieOnRale wrote: »

chronic weed smokers are stoned constantly. Constantly aggressive and constantly putting fear into whoevers in their company.

I've known literally hundreds of stoners in my life and never met a single one like this. I'd hate to see what that same person was like after a few lines of coke or speed.

FullblownRose

My keyboard is on the way out, by the way. I've neither been smoking nor drinking, in case anyone is wondering :P

DamagedTrax

Fat Christy wrote: »

Or when a dodgy illegal batch is taken.......

Compare Ireland with a country that has legalised weed.

i agree. kids dont know what crap they're getting on the street. but i buy from a grower who's also a naturalist. tiny operation, good friend, guaranteed good natural strains.

Fat Christy

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I'm not arguing this for a second but it seems more acceptable to bash alcohol than weed. I agree drinking is just as bad, and can cause the same reaction. The only difference is most people would only get that bad once or twice a week, whereas chronic weed smokers are stoned constantly. Constantly aggressive and constantly putting fear into whoevers in their company.

I know cocaine is a much worse drug than weed but I'd actually prefer someone do a line or two of that on a Saturday night than smoke weed every day.

I'm guessing you never met an alcoholic?

DamagedTrax

FullblownRose wrote: »

How do you know whether you are taking to it well?

self awareness i guess? and relying on your friends to notice anything amiss. but your friends situation is something ive never come across so take what i say with a pinch of salt, ive no experience with that reaction to cannabis.

there's also the possibility of the amount being smoked. drug abuse is still drug abuse, even if it's weed. i tend to smoke single skin spliffs with a small pinch in each. ill have one of them every few hours from 6pm onwards most nights. but im rarely 'stoned'. just lightly chilled.

Generic Dreadhead

FullblownRose wrote: »

k..the all or nothing bit refers to the photo memes stating it cures cancer, (if you use Facebook, you might have seen these ones)which in fairness it might (in the form of an oil)-and they are adults- older than me, late thirties uo to mid forties.

I don't think teenagers feel the need to justify themselves in their expperimentation, or something. I think I prefer not to have people justifying themselves to me

I really don't care what people do but I can't help but notice the correlation between the postings about the myriad alleged benefits, and the increase in my friends intake and the change in their personality- here I can't look sideways at them without them imbuing an innocent look with some meaning.
It doesn't feel different to a drunk ready for a fight, really.

There's a lot of f**king idiots on Facebook.
Hopefully you will find the below helpful and it will protect you from the Pictures+Words=Truth spiral

http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrymagid/2013/12/03/how-to-unfollow-someyet-yet-still-be-facebook-friends/

Generic Dreadhead

LexieOnRale wrote: »

The only difference is most people would only get that bad once or twice a week, whereas chronic weed smokers are stoned constantly. Constantly aggressive and constantly putting fear into whoevers in their company.

I'm just gonna call bollox on this as it's straight up an absolute tiny minority that do this and it sounds like that person was prone to violence and scare mongering anyway.

It's akin to me being burned by a Bic Lighter and saying Bic pens are more likely to cause accidents than other pens

LexieOnRale wrote: »

I know cocaine is a much worse drug than weed but I'd actually prefer someone do a line or two of that on a Saturday night than smoke weed every day.

This.... this is just..... i dunno....

It's like saying i'd rather someone drink a Litre of Absinthe that drink a glass and a half of wine a day.

Its like you have no concept of danger or threat, I'm not having a go but your views are clouded, misjudged and incorrect in this instance Lexie.

Offside

I smoked pretty full on for a few years during college. Near the end I just realised I wasn't enjoying it anymore. I was barely able to communicate with others when I was stoned and went deep into my own thoughts, over analysing every situation I'd faced that day/ in previous days, to the point where I would believe I'd done something wrong or pissed someone off over tiny daily interactions. I eventually came to a realisation that I was paying to feel this way and why would I do that?

Most of my friends still smoke away and I still chill with them and say no thanks to the weed, it doesn't suit me - only time I ever have a couple of tokes is when I'm wasted after a night out, then I enjoy it and because I'm not smoking every day when I do this every couple of months I get the giggles and enjoy it

DamagedTrax

Offside wrote: »

I smoked pretty full on for a few years...

...I get the giggles and enjoy it

thats exactly the kind of self awareness i was talking about. no 'evil killer weed' hysteria, just 'it doesnt work for me personally'

thomas anderson.

It levels me out completely, complete sense of apathy. Alcohol does that to me too though. If I stay off both for a while my moods are much better.

I do love a bit of smoke though

gosplan

Pretty sure the weed being regulated in the US specifies low THC, high cannaboids. Basically this means less psychosis, more chill.

I think that I independent article quoted is spot on. Weed has changed hugely.

Legalising controlled forms of it is the only solution.

I'm a teacher and have literally seen kids have meltdowns/breaks from smoking what's around nowadays.

It is NOT the same thing as you got in the 80's or 90's.

DamagedTrax

gosplan wrote: »

Pretty sure the weed being regulated in the US specifies low THC, high cannaboids. Basically this means less psychosis, more chill.

I think that I independent article quoted is spot on. Weed has changed hugely.

Legalising controlled forms of it is the only solution.

I'm a teacher and have literally seen kids have meltdowns/breaks from smoking what's around nowadays.

It is NOT the same thing as you got in the 80's or 90's.

certain areas, where weed is legal for recreational use, have no such restrictions but do have weight restrictions (colorado for one).

https://www.coloradopotguide.com/marijuana-laws-in-colorado/



high CBD, average THC levels is my smoke of choice. some of the stuff on the street is just ridiculous.

i tried a strain of 'amnesia' that was going around a while back. last time i ever made that mistake. im an experienced smoker and that crap made me a little off in the brain for a few hours.

legalisation is definitely the only solution but decriminalisation needs to be rushed thru before we even think of establishing an industry based on it. its more important that kids stop getting jailed with scumbags before anything else is looked at.

Drakares

FullblownRose wrote: »

More about..?

If you mean the negative effects I mentoned I just mean a change in their attitude, they became quite defensive, suspicious and paranoid..not their usual selves.

Prickly, difficult, uncomfortable to be around. Cliquey. Odd. Just not ..like their usual selves.

This is down to your friends ability to deal with the effects it causes.

My father cannot drink whiskey without becoming aggressive.

One guy can snort coke a few times a week and go on to be a normal person. The next one will do the same thing then jump out a window because he was off his head and couldn't handle it.

Different substances affect people differently.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Cormac... wrote: »

I'm just gonna call bollox on this as it's straight up an absolute tiny minority that do this and it sounds like that person was prone to violence and scare mongering anyway.

It's akin to me being burned by a Bic Lighter and saying Bic pens are more likely to cause accidents than other pens



This.... this is just..... i dunno....

It's like saying i'd rather someone drink a Litre of Absinthe that drink a glass and a half of wine a day.

Its like you have no concept of danger or threat, I'm not having a go but your views are clouded, misjudged and incorrect in this instance Lexie.

Turn it back on alcohol. If you're being abused by an alcoholic, who treated you fine before writing themselves, you can be sure you'd be blaming alcohol

Generic Dreadhead

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Turn it back on alcohol. If you're being abused by an alcoholic, who treated you fine before writing themselves, you can be sure you'd be blaming alcohol

I'd blame both

DamagedTrax

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Turn it back on alcohol. If you're being abused by an alcoholic, who treated you fine before writing themselves, you can be sure you'd be blaming alcohol

alcohol is a both a physical and mental addiction, like heroin. it destroys the body at an alarming rate when abused. the evidence is plain to see in front of your eyes.

to try and compare it to weed shows a lack of understanding of either substance.

Sea Sharp

There's good reason to be wary of weed. But nowhere near enough of a reason to continue criminalising users and missing out on tax revenue.

Fat Christy

Cormac... wrote: »

I'd blame both

You're still here? (In AHers I mean :P)

I didn't think you'd last this long. I'm not stalking ya, just saying...:o:pac:

barneyrubble46

Stupid stupid, weed is a drug, smoking it you are doubling your chances of all sorts of problems cancer or otherwise. Its simple don't do drugs, no excuses. After all if you where on a plane and your pilot pipped up, I just done a line of coke or just smoked a spliff, how would you feel about that. It ok?? No of course not. Drugs are not ok.

DamagedTrax

barneyrubble46 wrote: »

Stupid stupid, weed is a drug, smoking it you are doubling your chances of all sorts of problems cancer or otherwise. Its simple don't do drugs, no excuses. After all if you where on a plane and your pilot pipped up, I just done a line of coke or just smoked a spliff, how would you feel about that. It ok?? No of course not. Drugs are not ok.

yea cause we all sit around in work getting baked. work places are so cool like that :rolleyes:

drugs are bad mmmk?

FullblownRose

Cormac... wrote: »

I'm just gonna call bollox on this as it's straight up an absolute tiny minority that do this and it sounds like that person was prone to violence and scare mongering anyway.

It's akin to me being burned by a Bic Lighter and saying Bic pens are more likely to cause accidents than other pens



This.... this is just..... i dunno....

It's like saying i'd rather someone drink a Litre of Absinthe that drink a glass and a half of wine a day.

Its like you have no concept of danger or threat, I'm not having a go but your views are clouded, misjudged and incorrect in this instance Lexie.

I do not believe theyre in a small minority. I know people from parts of the UK where mining towns became redundant and unemployment was rife, hash was taken like cornflakes for breakfast. For some reason it took hold there and mostly with men, and they were like cabbages. They were literally 'stoned' and out-of-it, and difficult to be around, This is why you'll see certain sectors of society more against cannabis smoking than others.

mikom

barneyrubble46 wrote: »

After all if you where on a plane and your pilot pipped up, I just done a line of coke or just smoked a spliff, how would you feel about that.

I'd feel peeved that the airline authorities were not carrying out a staunch drug testing policy.

What a stupid fuckin' question.

After all if you were on a plane and your pilot pipped up, I just downed a bottle of cough mixture or just drank a quart of vodka, how would you feel about that.

See........ stupid fuckin' question.

Generic Dreadhead

Fat Christy wrote: »

You're still here? (In AHers I mean :P)

I didn't think you'd last this long. I'm not stalking ya, just saying...:o:pac:

Well I'm not banned..... yet :pac:

FullblownRose

barneyrubble46 wrote: »

Stupid stupid, weed is a drug, smoking it you are doubling your chances of all sorts of problems cancer or otherwise. Its simple don't do drugs, no excuses. After all if you where on a plane and your pilot pipped up, I just done a line of coke or just smoked a spliff, how would you feel about that. It ok?? No of course not. Drugs are not ok.

I've seen a woman lying under a blanket on a bed, no alcohol taken, just stoned from cannabis..she didn't drink or smoke cigarettes, only smoked cannabis..her blanket covered in burn holes, even then i was amazed she had not burned the place down..often met her on single track back roads when it was clear she was stoned...we are supposed to believe this is the behaviour of either alcoholics or major drug abusers like heroin addicts..and the truth in my experience is people can be as nasty with simple cannabis as any other drug

Rented Mule

Negative effects: I spend more time on the couch eating things I probably shouldn't.

I'd like to think of myself as a responsible adult. I'm married with kids, good job, house paid off. I'm not an asshole when I go out drinking. I trying to respect others. When I want to get high with a few friends at a show or even just sitting around watching a few videos, I am going to do it.

I think a lot depend on the initial character of the people who are acting up after smoking some buds. Some people like to use the excuse that the 'drink' or 'cannabis' for their behavior. I like to think of those people as 'assholes'.