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!! English HL 2015 - ALL things HL English, predictions, discussion etc.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭ShaunDaSheep


    Kat97 wrote: »
    Studying Othello and I have characters, relationships and themes covered. I'm really struggling with symbolism and imagery as we only touched on it in class.

    Am I okay with what I have or should I try and learn it?

    You will definitely be able to answer 1 of the questions. Only one question refers to imagery and symbolism


  • Registered Users Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Kat97


    You will definitely be able to answer 1 of the questions. Only one question refers to imagery and symbolism

    Thanks so much, I was freaking out there for a sec! :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭eoin12345


    Would anyone else highly predict Theme and Issue? It was last on in 2013, it was on the course last year but did not appear and it is not on the course next year. I am useless at GVV and Lit Gen. I know i will have to have a fair idea on at least one of them i just want to know if people are saying yes or no to theme and issue ?

    General vision and viewpoint is very similar to theme or issue. Gvvp centres around the authors or directors outlook e.g optimistic/pessimistic but obviously you would have to put in your own opinion too. Generally the question is quite open so I usually compare the endings and openings of each text, the time/location and if there is time left a relationship or character. Most of these you probably discuss in a theme or issue question so really its not overly different to the content you've learned for theme and issue.you'll just have to alter the context slightly in your answer:) fingers crossed for theme or issue though!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭yoyojc


    I'm really confused about General Vision and Viewpoint

    I know you're supposed to say you got a pessimistic or optimistic v and v etc.

    But what are you comparing, when the q is not specific?
    Characters?
    Setting?
    Key moments?
    or whatever you want?

    What do you say made u get that vision and viewpoint?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 ranchero42


    Hypothetically, if one were to learn only two poets, which two would they be (I'm not counting English)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭Fiona G


    ranchero42 wrote: »
    Hypothetically, if one were to learn only two poets, which two would they be (I'm not counting English)

    I would choose Ní Chuilleanáin and Dickinson. A female poet is (almost) a definite and Plath is unlikely to come up 3 years in a row.


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭eoin12345


    yoyojc wrote: »
    I'm really confused about General Vision and Viewpoint

    I know you're supposed to say you got a pessimistic or optimistic v and v etc.

    But what are you comparing, when the q is not specific?
    Characters?
    Setting?
    Key moments?
    or whatever you want?

    What do you say made u get that vision and viewpoint?

    What texts are you doing?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25 Ag_science2015


    I am going to kinda study Montague, Hardy and Frost. Which one is most likely to come up. i am gonna learn a full answer on one of them, and now little bits on the other 2


  • Registered Users Posts: 12 Lune


    Is theme and issue just comparing key moments?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 me1289


    Lune wrote: »
    Is theme and issue just comparing key moments?

    No, you must choose a theme that is in all 3 texts (violence) and discuss it using characters and key moments


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11 lexijade


    Could anyone help me with advice for the personal essay? I usually only get 50/60 out of 100 but don't know how to improve. It's really bringing my grade down..
    Also is anyone else doing Juno, Garage and Brooklyn for comparitive?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 bronaghgalvin1


    Jijsaw wrote: »
    We have done:
    Dickinson
    Plath
    Frost
    Montague
    Yeats

    I'm going studying the top 4 and perhaps Hardy. God damn you Plath coming up last year!



    .....Hey I'm a repeat student so have a little practise at this .... Plath came up 3 years in a row so i wouldn't be banking on her :) Although she is on the course and in theory should have an equal chance of coming up ...it is very unlikely.
    Best of luck in your exams :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 20 HannahLang


    Okay so I've seen a lot of English predictions on here but the all seem to be predominately concerned with the poetry section and I haven't seen any Othello predictions! If anyone has some good Othello suggestions please share ??


  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭yoyojc


    eoin12345 wrote: »
    What texts are you doing?

    The kings speech
    Brooklyn and Juno and the paycock

    Is it ok to compare the opening in all three texts first and what kind of v and v that gave me

    Then compare the setting and say what kind of v and v that gave me

    Then compare the vivid characterisation and say what kind of v and v that gave me?

    Or am I better off comparing key moments?
    Would really appreciate ye're help lads!


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 leavingcert15


    For othello a few people were saying the theme of jealousy or the role of women in the venetian society.


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭ShaunDaSheep


    Yeats
    Plath
    Dickinson
    Donne

    Should I be covered ? the only other poet we did was ENC but i hate her poetry with a passion and refuse to learn it ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 44 lc2015x


    Yeats
    Plath
    Dickinson
    Donne

    Should I be covered ? the only other poet we did was ENC but i hate her poetry with a passion and refuse to learn it ?

    Yeah, you'll be fine! I'm studying the same except instead of Plath, I'm doing Frost :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 57 ✭✭eoin12345


    yoyojc wrote: »
    The kings speech
    Brooklyn and Juno and the paycock

    Is it ok to compare the opening in all three texts first and what kind of v and v that gave me

    Then compare the setting and say what kind of v and v that gave me

    Then compare the vivid characterisation and say what kind of v and v that gave me?

    Or am I better off comparing key moments?
    Would really appreciate ye're help lads!

    Yes that's basically it!!! I usually compare openings and endings, relationships and setting/time of the text. If the question specifically asks for key moments describe the opening, the ending and another moment in the middle (you probably have something that happened in the middle of each test prepared for theme and issue so just use that) the ending is very important in a text. Did it end happily or unhappily or on a note of uncertainty? If you have time also look at the lives of the central character. Is their life bleak? Does their pessimistic outlook change? Why? Have a look at your exam papers at all the questions that have come up for gvvp and think about how you would answer them, that helped me a lot!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 sdfghjk97


    Does anyone know if short stories always come up in section 2 or not?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭9de5q7tsr8u2im


    Anyone know how much to write for:
    Single text
    Conparative
    Studied poetry

    Please need an advice fir top marks thanks!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭ShaunDaSheep


    Anyone know how much to write for:
    Single text
    Conparative
    Studied poetry

    Please need an advice fir top marks thanks!!

    Single text - 55mins
    Comparative - 60 mins
    poetry - 45 mins
    unseen poetry - 15 mins

    10 means at the start to read your questions etc...

    15 mins at the end to read over your work


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭ShaunDaSheep


    Anyone know how much to write for:
    Single text
    Conparative
    Studied poetry

    Please need an advice fir top marks thanks!!

    completely misread your question above haha

    Poetry - 4 pages

    Comparative - 5-7

    Unseen - page and a half max

    Single text - 4-5 pages


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭9de5q7tsr8u2im


    completely misread your question above haha

    Poetry - 4 pages

    Comparative - 5-7

    Unseen - page and a half max

    Single text - 4-5 pages
    Haha thanks for that both helps thanks!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 21 bmea


    Am I the only one learning one poet?


  • Registered Users Posts: 87 ✭✭ShaunDaSheep


    bmea wrote: »
    Am I the only one learning one poet?

    I'm sure you're not the only one. Have fun if that poet doesn't come up though!


  • Registered Users Posts: 251 ✭✭OMGeary


    bmea wrote: »
    Am I the only one learning one poet?

    That's a brilliant idea! not.
    Who are you learning?


  • Registered Users Posts: 588 ✭✭✭Deranged96


    Few questions lads!


    When you're quoting from a poem, must you do the forward slash business when the quote runs on to another line?

    Also, biographical information on the poets- yay or nay?

    Is there anything imperative that you must know for paper one?


    Thanks!


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭IrishLoriii


    Deranged96 wrote: »
    Few questions lads!


    When you're quoting from a poem, must you do the forward slash business when the quote runs on to another line?

    Also, biographical information on the poets- yay or nay?

    Is there anything imperative that you must know for paper one?


    Thanks!

    Hi,
    On the question of biographical information on a poet I think its fairly imperative to have some for Montague because it explains the basis of some of his poems and writing styles I really would make an effort to know that same for yeats


  • Registered Users Posts: 44 lc2015x


    It's not necessary to do that business, my teacher doesn't mind if you don't do it :p -as long as the the quotation marks are in! I don't think they'd be too harsh on that!

    Concentrate on main themes, style, symbols etc. But its nice if you know an auld line or three on the poets poems, just don't waste time on learning a huge bulk imo

    Lastly, paper 1 is just all about practice, keep doing comprehensions in Timed conditions, make sure you know the different style of languages that are used, eg persuasion, argument etc. Make sure you know what composing you'll be going in to write about! I wouldn't get too bogged down on paper 1, you get nice bitta marks for just answering questions on a piece of extract etc :D
    its paper 2 that drives me nuts!



    Deranged96 wrote: »
    Few questions lads!


    When you're quoting from a poem, must you do the forward slash business when the quote runs on to another line?

    Also, biographical information on the poets- yay or nay?




    Is there anything imperative that you must know for paper one?


    Thanks!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 358 ✭✭irishlad12345


    prayin for montague,Hardy or ENC :p


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