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The Predator (reboot)

  • 24-06-2014 7:43pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭


    Shane Black to write and direct.
    Black will write the treatment for the project, then will hand over scripting duties to Fred Dekker, his university chum with whom he wrote 1987’s Monster Squad. Black will oversee the writing and is also attached to direct.


    There's no word on the extent to which the new film will tie into the existing franchise.

    http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=119877

    EDIT: New film now described as an "inventive sequel" rather than a reboot.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭Banjaxed82


    The original is too much of a cult movie for this to be anything other than ......bleugh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


    This post has been deleted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 927 ✭✭✭Icaras


    You can stop it after 7 seconds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Guarantee the rock will be in this.

    This is a film that doesn't need to be made.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    I enjoyed Predators and Shane Black has never put a foot wrong imo so I look forward to this.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6 Meedah


    sugarman wrote: »
    Wasnt Predators a reboot:confused:


    No, they even discussed the events of the first Predator movie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    I'd quicker see a sequel with Arnie in it than a reboot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭jonon9


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    I'd quicker see a sequel with Arnie in it than a reboot.

    A pure "cash in" stop remaking classics?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Would prefer to see them carry on from Predators and explore more of that world than start from scratch again.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Honestly the fact that it's Black and Dekker, (look how well the names go together) means that this could be something rather special. Both seem to understand genre film making in a way that they can both poke fun at and pay respect at the same time and both understand that in this type of film the only thing that really matters is making it fun.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Malmedicine


    Anybody else know of someone who has directed and written a reboot/sequel having starred in the original? "Starred" is very loose but he was an actor in it.

    I wish he'd revisit Kiss kiss bang bang maybe not the characters per se more the style and feel of it .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    This what happens when enough people don't see original sci-fi movies like Edge of Tomorrow. (ok not an original, but a rather obscure adaptation) a Ripping Good Yarn as persuasively and fully possible, that it's far more rewarding as broad entertainment and as an emotional investment than virtually anything else that gets released these days

    The drawers of Hollywood are filled with the stillborn remains of thousands of movie scripts, that have yet to be filmed and could be made on the cheap.

    That's right they get turned into tv shows (as with the tech now they can be made relatively cheaply) because everybody is so numb to marketing in every aspect, that no film can be made on the cheap and make profit because all revenue is swallowed by having to plash all the cash and scream just as loud as the rival marketer beside you

    Predator was once an original idea too, not anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    I 'd like to see a Predator movie set in the distant past. Pirates of the Carribean: Predator Boogaloo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭Ridley


    Predator: Resurrection ;)

    If it is a reboot (and not just Another Predator Film), it's hard to see why They'd need to start over. It's not like the series is that continuity-heavy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Didn't Shane Black's girlfriend have a really big pussy? :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Didn't Shane Black's girlfriend have a really big pussy? :pac:

    Why did you say that twice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Ipso wrote: »
    Why did you say that twice?


    I didnt.... cause of the echo







    ... :pac:


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    A reboot tends to imply all the important mythology will be restarted, usually tweaked in some way. In this instance I can't help but wonder: what mythology? Whilst I love Predator as one of the quintessential action films of the 80s - heck I even love #2 with it's OTT comicbook approach - the Predator isn't that interesting as a creature or concept, nor has a wealth of backstory worth exploring or rebooting. The creature sits alongside the Terminator / Skynet, that they made for fantastic antagonists in their day but there's not a whole lot beneath the surface to keep them that compelling. All that said, Shane Black makes this project appear much more interesting than at first blush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 882 ✭✭✭JohnFalstaff


    Anybody else know of someone who has directed and written a reboot/sequel having starred in the original? "Starred" is very loose but he was an actor in it.

    Jack Nicholson directed The Two Jakes, which was a sequel to Chinatown - a film he starred in.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    pixelburp wrote: »
    A reboot tends to imply all the important mythology will be restarted, usually tweaked in some way. In this instance I can't help but wonder: what mythology? Whilst I love Predator as one of the quintessential action films of the 80s - heck I even love #2 with it's OTT comicbook approach - the Predator isn't that interesting as a creature or concept, nor has a wealth of backstory worth exploring or rebooting. The creature sits alongside the Terminator / Skynet, that they made for fantastic antagonists in their day but there's not a whole lot beneath the surface to keep them that compelling. All that said, Shane Black makes this project appear much more interesting than at first blush.

    Plenty of mythology in the comics and that but not really in the films at all yeah. I always found the whole honour system thing interesting and thought it could be explored a bit more.

    Anyway, I would rather this be a quasi sequel like Predators was than a straight up reboot, as you said it's not like there's an over arching storyline for them to really build on in the first place.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I enjoyed Predators and Shane Black has never put a foot wrong imo so I look forward to this.

    What about Iron Man 3 ,that was a terrible film.

    The only Predator film worth watching was the first one,its a masterpiece.
    The rest are poor.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    What about Iron Man 3 ,that was a terrible film.

    I respectfully disagree. :)


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What about Iron Man 3 ,that was a terrible film.

    The only Predator film worth watching was the first one,its a masterpiece.
    The rest are poor.

    Iron Man 3 isn't bad, in fact it's rather good even if the whole Pepper Potts stuff is cringe worthy. Black is the kind of film maker who knows his genre cinema and has a knack of being able to poke fun at them while at the same time paying homage to the greats without it ever feeling like a rip off.

    I've always enjoyed Predator 2, it's a fun lil film with just the right amount of tongue in cheek. Predators was also a pleasant enough distraction, the set up was great and while the film didn't do a whole lot with it, it was still good fun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,956 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Iron Man 3 isn't bad, in fact it's rather good even if the whole Pepper Potts stuff is cringe worthy. Black is the kind of film maker who knows his genre cinema and has a knack of being able to poke fun at them while at the same time paying homage to the greats without it ever feeling like a rip off.

    I've always enjoyed Predator 2, it's a fun lil film with just the right amount of tongue in cheek. Predators was also a pleasant enough distraction, the set up was great and while the film didn't do a whole lot with it, it was still good fun

    I hated Iron Man 3 ,it was childish cartoonish drivel and Downey Jr was hamming it up too much.
    The whole panic attack thing was laughable ,trying to be serious yet phoning in his acting performance.

    I liked the first Iron Man 3 film ,it had charm but the second and third were very poor films .

    Predator 2 wasnt too bad ,it did have some good bit but the casting of Danny Glover at the lead was poor and the second half of the film was very weak.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I hated Iron Man 3 ,it was childish cartoonish drivel and Downey Jr was hamming it up too much.
    The whole panic attack thing was laughable ,trying to be serious yet phoning in his acting performance.

    I liked the first Iron Man 3 film ,it had charm but the second and third were very poor films .

    Predator 2 wasnt too bad ,it did have some good bit but the casting of Danny Glover at the lead was poor and the second half of the film was very weak.

    I had issues with Iron Man 3 but wouldn't blame Black for them, after all he was pretty much a yes man for Marvel. They were the ones in charge of the film but there were still some nice Black touches. The kid in particular was really well done and felt like one of the kids in The Monster Squad, which is still the best kids film ever made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭Bacchus


    Don't see the point of a reboot. Why not just make ANOTHER Predator movie. It's not like there's an overbearing continuity that has to be tip toed around. Naturally the memory of the AvP movies should be wiped out/ignored.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Trying to wrap my head around this reboot idea. I mean, the predator 'universe' is so vast. If they wanted to set it in America in say 1725, they could (Predators have been coming to earth for hundreds of years as revealed at the end of predator 2) They can also set the story on any world. Thanks the Predators (2010)

    So going by what they have set up so far... they can set a Predator movie on any world. In any time. They can tell ANY story they want. So why the reboot? :confused:

    Unless.... they want to change the design and nature of the predator. Which would be so stupid. But that would be a "reboot" - PSSSSH Hollywood!


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,530 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    It does say that no details have been released regarding how much it will tie in with other films so it might not be a complete "reboot" at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    It's Shane Black so it'll be a Predator movie set at Christmas. And I'm fine with this notion :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,548 ✭✭✭rockbeast


    Ipso wrote: »
    I 'd like to see a Predator movie set in the distant past. Pirates of the Carribean: Predator Boogaloo.

    Why not? - it's a far better concept :)

    Predator Vs Spartan Warriors.

    Predator Vs Roman Legionnaires

    Predator Vs Cuchulainn !

    Predator Vs Pirates

    Predator Vs Germans/Allies in WW1

    TBH I'd rather watch any of them than a current day reboot with the muscles of the day as lead...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    Hollywood should just go into the brothel business at this stage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭MJ23


    Predator v T1000. Set in the Wicklow Mountains.

    That would be deadly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭Sulla Felix


    rockbeast wrote: »
    Why not? - it's a far better concept :)

    Predator Vs Spartan Warriors.

    Predator Vs Roman Legionnaires

    Predator Vs Cuchulainn !

    Predator Vs Pirates

    Predator Vs Germans/Allies in WW1

    TBH I'd rather watch any of them than a current day reboot with the muscles of the day as lead...

    Do a Marvel tie-in, Predator vs Hydra


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,243 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    MJ23 wrote: »
    Predator v T1000. Set in the Wicklow Mountains.

    That would be deadly.

    I'd watch that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    A few years ago I wrote a short fan script of a Predator sequel set in Iraq, seemed like the perfect setting to me, it's mentioned in the first movie that the hot weather is what brings the Predator and likewise in the second film so a desert location with a bunch of marines already at war seemed to make sense.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    Shane Black says that the new film will be a sequel, not be a reboot.
    Shane Black Headed Back To The Jungle For New Predator

    The gang at Collider reached out to Black, who has clarified that it'll be an "inventive sequel". "As far as Fred and I are concerned anyway. Why start over, when you’ve all this rich mythology yet to mine? I like the idea of expanding and exploring the existing Predator mythology, rather than hitting the restart button.”





    http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=41377


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    krudler wrote: »
    A few years ago I wrote a short fan script of a Predator sequel set in Iraq, seemed like the perfect setting to me, it's mentioned in the first movie that the hot weather is what brings the Predator and likewise in the second film so a desert location with a bunch of marines already at war seemed to make sense.

    I'll but that for a dollar.

    No seriously James Cameron sold The Terminator script for that amount when he lived in his car

    And you're not living in a car? You seen, you're already winning and doing better than him at his age.

    I'll scout for some arid, dry, moon like locations.... Cavan anybody?
    Plenty of space to blow **** up and you don't even need a permit.

    James Cameron needed a permit. You see?! You're already doing better than him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,563 ✭✭✭Adamantium


    MJ23 wrote: »
    Predator v T1000. Set in the Wicklow Mountains.

    That would be deadly.

    Will Saorise Connor be escaping from the Central Mental Hospital at some point?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 500 ✭✭✭Malmedicine


    Jack Nicholson directed The Two Jakes, which was a sequel to Chinatown - a film he starred in.

    Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Adamantium wrote: »
    I'll but that for a dollar.

    No seriously James Cameron sold The Terminator script for that amount when he lived in his car

    And you're not living in a car? You seen, you're already winning and doing better than him at his age.

    I'll scout for some arid, dry, moon like locations.... Cavan anybody?
    Plenty of space to blow **** up and you don't even need a permit.

    James Cameron needed a permit. You see?! You're already doing better than him.

    Was just an excercise really, had the opening as being similar to the original movie, chopper coming across the desert with the theme blaring


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    krudler wrote: »
    A few years ago I wrote a short fan script of a Predator sequel set in Iraq, seemed like the perfect setting to me, it's mentioned in the first movie that the hot weather is what brings the Predator and likewise in the second film so a desert location with a bunch of marines already at war seemed to make sense.

    Santa Ponsa would be a good location!
    There was a great tease at the end if Predator 2 when one of the Predators gave Glovers character and old gun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    Will Sigourney Weaver be coming back for this one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Thrill wrote: »
    Shane Black says that the new film will be a sequel, not be a reboot.

    http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=41377


    Good news :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,217 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Just watching the making of Predator 2 on youtube here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBlWF6cNtTM

    Gary Busey says that his character Keyes was responsible for sending Dutch's team into the jungle in the first Predator movie and that Dutch (Arnie) died 9 weeks after ending. Of course, all this is stricken from the final film.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Interesting that the Empire article mentions that Black's only writing the treatment, so while he's working with a longtime collaborator, there's no guarantee of quality here. Seems like a fairly easy paycheque for Black; he'll come up with the vision, someone else does the grunt work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭NyOmnishambles


    Anybody else know of someone who has directed and written a reboot/sequel having starred in the original? "Starred" is very loose but he was an actor in it.

    Someone else covered it with Jack Nicholson but Leonard Nimoy wrote and directed Star trek IV : The Voyage home having previously directed Star Trek III : The Search for Spock, he also wrote Star Trek VI : The Undiscovered Country

    Unrelated but it still always surprises me that he directed Three Men and a Baby


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭redt0m


    John McTiernan mentioned here:

    Predator Sequel

    Could be interesting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,571 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    John McClane vs. the Predator, Nakatomi Plaza.

    Who do I send my money to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Smiles35


    Just watching the making of Predator 2 on youtube here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBlWF6cNtTM

    Gary Busey says that his character Keyes was responsible for sending Dutch's team into the jungle in the first Predator movie and that Dutch (Arnie) died 9 weeks after ending. Of course, all this is stricken from the final film.

    Could bring Arnold back for some grainy fotage of Dutch on his death bed. Or more than likely he got killed by the government becuase they couldnt leave him walking with that story, that's what I allways suspected would have happend to his charater.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,140 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    https://www.facebook.com/155151048009995/photos/a.155423454649421.1073741828.155151048009995/451836991674731/?type=3&permPage=1

    CbVHwCDWwAAj1lN.jpg
    The Predator writer/director Shane Black re-teaming with co-writer Fred Dekker

    http://www.avclub.com/article/first-image-shane-blacks-revival-declares-s-predat-232357
    The new film is being called ”an inventive sequel” rather than a reboo
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3829266/combined

    :) or maybe just watch the first two again which are great films


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