The Predator (reboot)

helimachoptor · 12-05-2018 9:57am

Hector Savage wrote: »

They are making a new AVP ???

or you mean when comparing current versions after release ?

I mean this in comparison to the Avp movies

artvanderlay · 12-05-2018 10:22am

I liked the idea of a predator sequel where the son of the original predator comes back to avenge the death of his father at arnie's hands (they are a proud warrior race after all). Maybe he kidnaps Arnie and drops him back in a jungle to be hunted with some new cast members.

Or else the US government captures a predator and studies it, but a rescue mission of a sh*tload of predators is dispatched to rescue him, and the government call in Arnie as a special advisor to take them on (and not Danny Glover!)...I haven't thought it through too much, I just want Arnie back in it :P

dan1895 · 12-05-2018 3:00pm

artvanderlay wrote: »

I liked the idea of a predator sequel where the son of the original predator comes back to avenge the death of his father at arnie's hands (they are a proud warrior race after all). Maybe he kidnaps Arnie and drops him back in a jungle to be hunted with some new cast members.

Or else the US government captures a predator and studies it, but a rescue mission of a sh*tload of predators is dispatched to rescue him, and the government call in Arnie as a special advisor to take them on (and not Danny Glover!)...I haven't thought it through too much, I just want Arnie back in it :P

Predator vs Terminator is what your looking for.

conorhal · 12-05-2018 3:14pm

dan1895 wrote: »

Predator vs Terminator is what your looking for.

Well this would make him splooge all over the screen,,,

CatFromHue · 12-05-2018 3:26pm

What I'd like to see is a Predator moving to Earth to raise his son as a single parent and then two Xenomorphs move next door were together they strike up an odd couple relationship and have zany adventures together.

conorhal · 12-05-2018 3:33pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

What I'd like to see is a Predator moving to Earth to raise his son as a single parent and then two Xenomorphs move next door were together they strike up an odd couple relationship and have zany adventures together.

And the Terminator is their grouchy downstairs neighbour that keeps hammering on the roof with a broom....

dan1895 · 12-05-2018 8:15pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

What I'd like to see is a Predator moving to Earth to raise his son as a single parent and then two Xenomorphs move next door were together they strike up an odd couple relationship and have zany adventures together.

Starring Walter Matthau and Jack Lemon.

mloc123 · 12-05-2018 10:02pm

I never realised Predator 2 was so poorly received until recently when I looked up the ratings online. To be it was a decent 90s action movie when I watched it as a 9/10 yr old and remained the same in my mind since

Drumpot · 12-05-2018 10:05pm

artvanderlay wrote: »

I liked the idea of a predator sequel where the son of the original predator comes back to avenge the death of his father at arnie's hands (they are a proud warrior race after all). Maybe he kidnaps Arnie and drops him back in a jungle to be hunted with some new cast members.

Or else the US government captures a predator and studies it, but a rescue mission of a sh*tload of predators is dispatched to rescue him, and the government call in Arnie as a special advisor to take them on (and not Danny Glover!)...I haven't thought it through too much, I just want Arnie back in it :P

Was this actually in the movie? I don’t remember the family connection with the predator in arnies movie?!

tigger123 · 13-05-2018 10:11am

mloc123 wrote: »

I never realised Predator 2 was so poorly received until recently when I looked up the ratings online. To be it was a decent 90s action movie when I watched it as a 9/10 yr old and remained the same in my mind since

I watched it about 2 years ago and for me it was still great. Very different in tone to 1, but excellent all the same.

NyOmnishambles · 13-05-2018 4:00pm

CatFromHue wrote: »

What I'd like to see is a Predator moving to Earth to raise his son as a single parent and then two Xenomorphs move next door were together they strike up an odd couple relationship and have zany adventures together.

Someone did a web comic for a few years along a similar theme
It was quite enjoyable at times

http://alienlovespredator.com/2004/10/12/unavoidable-delay/

homerun_homer · 14-05-2018 9:57am

I re-watched Predator 2 on Film 4 recently, for the first time since I was a kid and it is completely daft. I know there are still terrible scripts getting made but the plot and logic to the events happening in the film are completely random and stupid.

yourdeadwright · 14-05-2018 12:00pm

First predator in my mind is the greatest action movie ever made,
It's very simply but just works brilliantly, The whole not knowing what they are fighting makes it amazing you really only see the Predator properly for the final battle,
I think a problem is how cool the Predator looks that they actually get to much air time in the following movies, It takes away from the scary aspect of the good guys having no idea who or what is hunting them ,
Again because of the brilliance of the first movie every one after is compared to it and just can't stand up to the original ,

Theboinkmaster · 14-05-2018 1:53pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

First predator in my mind is the greatest action movie ever made,

Nah that's DIE HARD.

Brian? · 14-05-2018 8:29pm

Theboinkmaster wrote: »

Nah that's DIE HARD.

Die Hard is a Christmas film, not a real action film.

Predator is one of the stupidest films ever made. The characters are paper thin, the plot is almost non existent. But it's brilliant. It works because of the tension of the unknown.

I watched it on Saturday night, for about the 100th time, it's an absolute master piece of an action film.

The one liners:

"He's dug in like an Alabama tick"
"I ain't got time to bleed!"
"This will turn you into a god damn sexual tyrannosaurus"

And that's just Jesse Ventura. Arnie actually has the 2nd best lines in the film.

yourdeadwright · 15-05-2018 12:16pm

BILLY: I'm scared Poncho
Poncho : BULL**** , you ain't afraid of no man,
Billy : There's something out there waiting for us and it ain't no man, We are all going to die .

pixelburp · 15-05-2018 12:37pm

Only now got to watch the trailer, and insofar as one can judge from a teaser, I actually liked it. I didn't hate it anyway.

Let's face it, the Predator as a concept has very little complexity beyond "alien honour hunters with a memorable monster design". If the creature looked like it was originally supposed to (the costume worn by Jean Claude VanDamme of all people), I doubt very much the film would have lived as long in memory.

I could see how a hunter species might want to splice in some genetic advantages from other races, so it doesn't feel like a major change to the mythology. Plus, if Shane Black brings some of his trademark character writing skills, it'll immediately elevate all the scenes the Predator isn't on-screen.

2010's Predators suffered from being TOO slavishly admiring of the original film, inviting constant comparison, while the AvP franchise were just fan-films gussied up as theatrical releases (though '...Requiem' was so bad it retroactively made the first AvP better on rewatch). Predator 2 is arguably the strongest sequel, if only because it had the good sense to just go for broke, turning the dial up on everything. It's utterly stupid but leans into that stupidity, resulting in an entertaining 'exploitation' film.

Hector Savage · 15-05-2018 4:58pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

BILLY: I'm scared Poncho
Poncho : BULL**** , you ain't afraid of no man,
Billy : There's something out there waiting for us and it ain't no man, We are all going to die .

"mans losin' his cool .... just a couple of guys out there and we gotta take 'em out"...

Defunkd · 18-05-2018 12:07am

CatFromHue wrote: »

What I'd like to see is a Predator moving to Earth to raise his son as a single parent and then two Xenomorphs move next door were together they strike up an odd couple relationship and have zany adventures together.

There are plenty of (serious) videos on youtube about the secret war between Predators and Engineers. Some fanboy got a 3" boner from your post no doubt.

WHIP IT! · 18-05-2018 6:18pm

Have never understood the hate for Predator 2 (or Die Hard 2 for that matter). The fact is, both films just suffer in comparison to their timeless originals. Both are really good flicks in their own right. People here are complaining that Predator 2 is "unrealistic"?? It's a movie about an Alien killing machine who comes to earth and hunts for sport - how much realism were you expecting??

Sin City · 18-05-2018 6:36pm

WHIP IT! wrote: »

Have never understood the hate for Predator 2 (or Die Hard 2 for that matter). The fact is, both films just suffer in comparison to their timeless originals. Both are really good flicks in their own right. People here are complaining that Predator 2 is "unrealistic"?? It's a movie about an Alien killing machine who comes to earth and hunts for sport - how much realism were you expecting??

You mean its not a documentary

razorblunt · 21-05-2018 12:33pm

Maybe because Danny Glover moves at the speed of a freighter, that was always my biggest gripe with Predator 2 and that was even as a kid watching it!

Comic Book Guy · 22-05-2018 11:17pm

Brian? wrote: »

Die Hard is a Christmas film, not a real action film.

Predator is one of the stupidest films ever made. The characters are paper thin, the plot is almost non existent. But it's brilliant. It works because of the tension of the unknown.

I watched it on Saturday night, for about the 100th time, it's an absolute master piece of an action film.

The one liners:

"He's dug in like an Alabama tick"
"I ain't got time to bleed!"
"This will turn you into a god damn sexual tyrannosaurus"

And that's just Jesse Ventura. Arnie actually has the 2nd best lines in the film.

I always loved “Stick Around”.

Endaaaagh · 25-05-2018 7:31am

Brian? wrote: »

"He's dug in like an Alabama tick"

Back in my youth I always thought the line was "like an Alabama chicken" :pac: which looking back now makes absolutely no sense

Apparently the Polish subtitles for this line translate to "like a mole in a hole" ...as we found out one drunken night where we decided to watch it after a few beers and stick on the oul Polish subtitles for the benefit of a Polish friend of ours only to repeatably ask him to directly translate all the one liners for us to see if they matched what was being said in English.

artvanderlay · 25-05-2018 11:46am

Maybe put a new slant on the Predator franchise. New movie: the sexual predator. He's an invisible pervert than swings from tree to tree touching people inappropriately :P

Stone Deaf 4evr · 25-05-2018 12:53pm

artvanderlay wrote: »

Maybe put a new slant on the Predator franchise. New movie: the sexual predator. He's an invisible pervert than swings from tree to tree touching people inappropriately :P

starring Morgan Freeman & kevin Spacey, produced by the weinstien company.

artvanderlay · 25-05-2018 3:05pm

Brilliant. Lets greenlight it and get Arnie back with updated dialogue... "if it ejaculates, we can kill it"!

Slydice · 09-06-2018 7:56pm

Space Alien!

Iseedeadpixels · 09-06-2018 10:12pm

2 predators?

Slydice · 09-06-2018 10:22pm

As I watched it, I was trying to figure how they are blending this as the film between Predator 2 and Predators.

Have a new type of Predator feels right.

I started to wonder if the humans give them enough of a fight back that it turns out we are the reason for the idea of evolving Predators turn up in.. Predators (the film).

Maybe the new one is one we genetically messed around with given that it looks to be fighting off the other predator.

hansgruber at gmail.com · 10-06-2018 10:46am

I was onboard until the last scene after being disappointed by the first trailer.

The Predator is pretty badass and more than formidable without needing a ‘super-predator’ thrown in.

However, I’ll reserve full judgement until we get the context.

Inviere · 10-06-2018 10:55am

Iseedeadpixels wrote: »

2 predators?

pixelburp · 10-06-2018 12:49pm

Given scenes in the trailer feature white-suited scientists, I'm going to go out on a limb and theorise the 2nd Predator is a genetic experiment by whatever company the labrats are working for (start your bets whether it'll be Weyland, Yutani or the merged version).

So the original brand Predator becomes too much to handle (looks like some generic army types are getting trashed in that 2nd trailer), with the scientists persuading the government agent played by Sterling K Brown to release their new pet - probably using a variation of the whole 'set a thief...' speech. Hilarity ensues.

Bacchus · 10-06-2018 9:33pm

pixelburp wrote: »

Given scenes in the trailer feature white-suited scientists, I'm going to go out on a limb and theorise the 2nd Predator is a genetic experiment by whatever company the labrats are working for (start your bets whether it'll be Weyland, Yutani or the merged version).

So the original brand Predator becomes too much to handle (looks like some generic army types are getting trashed in that 2nd trailer), with the scientists persuading the government agent played by Sterling K Brown to release their new pet - probably using a variation of the whole 'set a thief...' speech. Hilarity ensues.

Sounds about right. That second trailer really spelled out the plot beats of the movie... speculation spoilers... Initial conflict, guy survives, new team sent in with him (shades of Aliens), it doesn't go too well, super predator unleashed, super predator goes off script, and the final act will be the soldiers fighting with the predator to defeat the super predator.

helimachoptor · 11-06-2018 9:52pm

Bacchus wrote: »

Sounds about right. That second trailer really spelled out the plot beats of the movie... speculation spoilers... Initial conflict, guy survives, new team sent in with him (shades of Aliens), it doesn't go too well, super predator unleashed, super predator goes off script, and the final act will be the soldiers fighting with the predator to defeat the super predator.

You should be a hollywood script writer.

Cant really seeing it diverging from this tbh

pixelburp · 11-06-2018 9:54pm

To counter my own theorising, given this is Shane Black at the helm, there's a better than decent chance Black will subvert the clichés a little. Or at least try to

13-06-2018 6:46am

They should put Van Damme in the Predator costume for real this time

Hande hoche! · 13-06-2018 7:58am

Bacchus wrote: »

Sounds about right. That second trailer really spelled out the plot beats of the movie... speculation spoilers... Initial conflict, guy survives, new team sent in with him (shades of Aliens), it doesn't go too well, super predator unleashed, super predator goes off script, and the final act will be the soldiers fighting with the predator to defeat the super predator.

Shades of AVP there.

Gamb!t · 13-06-2018 8:10am

Deleted User wrote: »

They should put Van Damme in the Predator costume for real this time

And Stevie Seagal in the other one

razorblunt · 13-06-2018 6:48pm

Deleted User wrote: »

They should put Van Damme in the Predator costume for real this time

It's Kevin Spacey's to lose apparently.

razorblunt · 13-06-2018 6:50pm

The original had Jesse Ventura and Carl Weathers in the team, this has the bald guy that used to host "America's Funniest Animal Videos"

Slydice · 13-06-2018 11:29pm

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Shades of AVP there.

It occurs to me that Lance Henriksen is still around. He played a part in the Detroit: Become Human video-game/choose-your-own-story that just came out. Maybe he'll camero like in AVP. Maybe not.