Way to go Sinn Fein

Banjo String

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Only the ones with houses worth over £400,000. If their house is worth millions they only pay the same as the person with a house worth £400,000. I have been better off up till recently paying just bins around €270 and even now with property tax compared to the Nordies with those shocking rates. No water charges yet.

Are you sure that the NHS is paid for from domectic rates?

Well, if this is anything to go on......

Your rates bill

Your rates bill is made up of two parts:

District rateThe district rate is fixed annually by individual councils and is used to pay for services such as bin collections, recycling and waste disposal, leisure services, street cleaning and parks.

Regional rateThe regional rate is set by central government and is used to pay for services such as roads, education and health. 

http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/council/rates/whatarerates.aspx

dxhound2005

dashcamdanny wrote: »

Except if you subtract USC, water tax, Property tax, household charge.

and add

medical care and prescriptions. And free bins

Its a better deal up there in the north . Would you disagree? Or are you a blind FF FG voter.

Whatever you say. SF taxation is all good, people get loads of stuff. Any other party taxation is austerity on the ordinary people.

LordSutch

Karl Stein wrote: »

This coming from someone who described an RUC officer who colluded with loyalist murder gangs as 'a fine policeman' (or something to that effect).

When did I say that, and in what context?

Woodville56

tayto lover wrote: »

FG's share of the vote has dropped in every constituency.
SF's share of the vote has risen in every constituency.

Labour have 45 seats so far and SF have 141.

Now that speaks volumes. The Govt fell asleep at the wheel. They are supposed to serve the people not visa versa.

Agreed, and its beyond belief that they come out with this guff that they now realise how angry and disaffected the electorate are ! What planet have they been on for the past 3 years ?? These elections will prove a watershed in Irish politics for years to come - the FG/Labour (if they survive the remainder of their term) will need a root and branch review of their policies and their Ministers - a lot of dead wood there , needs to be pruned in a bad way !
The one question is the silent 50%, who didnt vote this time round, which way will they go next time round at a General Election? Will they abstain again, improve the SF result or have a deep think about what a SF led or coalition government would mean for us ??

andrewdeerpark

Bannasidhe wrote: »

No thank you.

Bad for the health. Mind, they do have an excellent health service here so g'wan so....

Something to decorate the living room while your sipping that Rum and inhaling that cigar...

Banjo String

comongethappy wrote: »

Point?

That just like the the good folk of England, Scotland and Wales subsidise their sparsely populated neighbours, we do to.

Banjo String

Banjo String wrote: »

Indeed. How many times I heard "you will get a chance at the next elections" sneered at every opportunity. Blinded by their own short sightedness.

Kenny himself admits it's time to reevaluate things. Too little too late Enda.

Their will be a general election before they make it full term. Guaranteed.

Before April 2016? Probably.

Banjo String wrote: »

So that makes us triple taxation payers?

We have income tax, vat, usc
Property tax
Water tax
Health/gp charges
Refuse charges
Etc etc etc

Nordies are on to a winner tbh

Be nice to live on someone else's money alright.

steveone

Glad labour got a seeing to- i can't believe fianna fail are romping home and the greens have reared their heads again.

Banjo String

Banjo String wrote: »

That just like the the good folk of England, Scotland and Wales subsidise their sparsely populated neighbours, we do to.

Do you expect that Northern Ireland would be subsidising their sparsely populated neighbours in the south if the island were united?

Banjo String

Banjo String wrote: »

Well, if this is anything to go on......



http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/council/rates/whatarerates.aspx

It's not like a government would ever mislead anybody about anything. The massive deficit they have must just appear by magic somehow since they pay for everything apparently.

Banjo String

Deleted User wrote: »

Do you expect that Northern Ireland would be subsidising their sparsely populated neighbours in the south if the island were united?

Do you dispute that Dublin (or other) LPT homeowners subsidise less populated counties?

Banjo String

Deleted User wrote: »

It's not like a government would ever mislead anybody about anything. The massive deficit they have must just appear by magic somehow since they pay for everything apparently.

Belfast City councils website is lying.

You heard it here first.

Unbelievable.

comongethappy

Banjo String wrote: »

Do you dispute that Dublin (or other) LPT homeowners subsidise less populated counties?

No one is..... You are avoiding the point.

You stated that NI have it better than we do.

I think that if Ireland received a €20 billion annual gift from a sugar-daddy things would be better here.

So comparing NI to ROI us pointless as the rules are different.

Banjo String

Banjo String wrote: »

Do you dispute that Dublin (or other) LPT homeowners subsidise less populated counties?

Why would I?
If you're going to rely on population density though surely with 4 of the 7 most densely populated counties on the island being in NI they'll have to help Dublin with subsidising everywhere else.

Banjo String

Banjo String wrote: »

Belfast City councils website is lying.

You heard it here first.

Unbelievable.

Does Northern Ireland's taxation cover Northern Ireland's government expenditure?

dxhound2005

Banjo String wrote: »

Belfast City councils website is lying.

You heard it here first.

Unbelievable.

I wonder did Gerry ever read it. It says domestic rates are a property tax based on the value of a house. Gerry says there is no property tax in the North.

On a different subject I wonder what is the rule in the European Parliament about MEP's giving their salary to their party. The donations are supposed to be declared by TD's and Senators here but they appear not to have been by SF.

andrewdeerpark

tomwaterford wrote: »

I still remain to be convinced that if therev wernt glaring mistakes thatbthe dept/govt wouldn't take pleasure in letting the whole country know

I would like to see this jobs policy you are quoting...is it 20+ years old??

I would suggest you study there new policies/leaflet...ive nebver seen anything like that

This smacks of mass state involvement:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1011/341226-sinn-fein-job-creation-plan/

Insulating all schools, more building all state created jobs.

Bannasidhe

andrewdeerpark wrote: »

Something to decorate the living room while your sipping that Rum and inhaling that cigar...

http://http://media1.shmoop.com/media/images/original/jfk-khrushchev.jpg

So?

Banjo String

Deleted User wrote: »

Does Northern Ireland's taxation cover Northern Ireland's government expenditure?

I don't believe it does, but what does that mean for all the northern based companies paying tax into the UK central fund pot?

Maybe taxes raised in the north should be retained in the north?

Spurious argument.

Da Shins Kelly

Regardless of party allegiances, I think it's quite positive to see so many women not only putting themselves out there politically, but doing so well.

Red Nissan

I for one voted Sinn Féin, I have been very happy today, not least, because SF candidates have done so well, but some of my own personal political enemies have lost seats.

We need more change, co-opting is gone. Thankfully, a lot of the causalities yesterday and today were co-opted ie never voted for.

FF are placing candidates now with the express intention of moving them to National ~ so watch that SF.

\my own ward did return an SF candidate, and as a man well deserved, but we have two FFs which has out maneuvered us.

So we must rally like mad lads, Martin has positioned us to lose, he is too clever, we need voters to commit now.

Totally ignore Sinn Féin success today, too many are banking on our failure, we have won a tactical victory controlled by our enemies, we've won nothing.

Be warned.

dxhound2005

Much rejoicing in Tehran, Tripoli, Gaza and San Sebastian as well as Havana.

comongethappy

Banjo String wrote: »

I don't believe it does, but what does that mean for all the northern based companies paying tax into the UK central fund pot?

Maybe taxes raised in the north should be retained in the north?

Spurious argument.

The sum total of NI taxes don't come close to paying for NI.

The ROI government lacks an equally generous sugar-daddy.

But that's spurious apparently?

jank

Sinn Fein still selling magic beans?

dashcamdanny

steveone wrote: »

Glad labour got a seeing to- i can't believe fianna fail are romping home and the greens have reared their heads again.

This makes me wonder!!!!!!
Im not a FG or FF voter, but...
at the very least FG are mopping up the horrible historical mess Fianna Fail made of our country, telling people to buy more houses . Im sure that bastazd Bertie is laughing his head off.

WHAT DOPE VOTED FOR FIANNA FAIL are you mad. They nearly killed us off a few years ago!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh but Lawless fixed a pothole outside my gaff ..

MOrons

andrewdeerpark

Bannasidhe wrote: »

http://http://media1.shmoop.com/media/images/original/jfk-khrushchev.jpg

So?

Different context entirely everyone knows Gerry Adams has an admiration of Fidel Castro and has visited Cuba and was given a state welcome.

Bannasidhe

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Much rejoicing in Tehran, Tripoli, Gaza and San Sebastian as well as Havana.

Praise Allah.

steddyeddy

Who voted for Hanafin

Bannasidhe

andrewdeerpark wrote: »

Different context entirely everyone knows Gerry Adams has an admiration of Fidel Castro and has visited Cuba and was given a state welcome.

So?

wazky

jank wrote: »

Sinn Fein still selling magic beans?

Are ya looking for a few?