Way to go Sinn Fein

donegal__road

donegal__road wrote: »

DeValera was first elected on the SF ticket.

In truth De Valera was more a Mé Féiner

darced

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The Backwards Man

My name is URL wrote: »

12 local election seats filled so far.

None for FG or Labour

Are water and property taxes being repealed then?

RandomName2

darced wrote: »

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The opportunity to see moderate voters squirm.

I think that is probably the best reason for voting for a party.

Iwasfrozen

Smidge wrote: »

I'm sad to say so that your idealogical viewpoint of politics, whether it be people who fought in a war(branded terrorists by the people they fought and as such it the name of terrorist has since stuck, like the ANC)or thieves, crooks, blackguards, swindlers, liars and all around bunch of no-marks ie the ruling parties here for the last number of decades will ensure that you will always enable the wrong people t come to power.
There are no "good guys" in politics just different measures of ill.

I prefer the ones who don't apologise for murder thanks.

Banjo String

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Are water and property taxes being repealed then?

Local government don't have the powers to do that I'm afraid. However, I expect to see a 15%reduction in mine next year (seeing as we have an SF councillor now) as they do have the power to raise or lower it.

FG/Lab didn't think that far ahead.

Red Nissan

Good, my interest in politics has been increased.

It would be great to have a Sinners Government in 1916.

Iwasfrozen

Red Nissan wrote: »

Good, my interest in politics has been increased.

It would be great to have a Sinners Government in 1916.

You're a bit late there Nissy.

mickydoomsux

Banjo String wrote: »

Local government don't have the powers to do that I'm afraid. However, I expect to see a 15%reduction in mine next year (seeing as we have an SF councillor now) as they do have the power to raise or lower it.

FG/Lab didn't think that far ahead.

Yeah, that won't be happening.

My name is URL

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Are water and property taxes being repealed then?

I don't know or care

15 seats filled now. Still 0 for FG & Labour

7 for Sinn Fein

edit: 8 now!

Frank Lee Midere

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I prefer the ones who don't apologise for murder thanks.

Boy would you be pissing on Mandela in a different country.

I realise I am coming across as a shinner here. I wouldn't vote for them. I didn't. Your arguments are name calling. People now voting for Sinn Fein most certainly didn't vote for them during the ". Troubles" when their vote was 2% and the expression of Dublin radicalism was the workers party.

They've effectively become an urban based left wing party. Given their liberalism on gay rights etc. they have abandoned and been abandoned by the classes ( small farmer, publican, rural) who supported them before.

I'd prefer this support was labour. But it isn't.

Karl Stein

Any recommendation on a good website to follow the counts/results?



Don't feed the trolls folks.

Iwasfrozen

Frank Lee Midere wrote: »

Boy would you be pissing on Mandela in a different country.

I realise I am coming across as a shinner here. I wouldn't vote for them. I didn't. Your arguments are name calling. People now voting for Sinn Fein most certainly didn't vote for them during the ". Troubles" when their vote was 2% and the expression of Dublin radicalism was the workers party.

They've effectively become an urban based left wing party. Given their liberalism on gay rights etc. they have abandoned and been abandoned by the classes ( small farmer, publican, rural) who supported them before.

I'd prefer this support was labour. But it isn't.

They have ex-terrorists in their ranks and have never condemned the IRA.

Banjo String

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Yeah, that won't be happening.

Well I suppose it'll be hard to dispute that, such a well rounded, full of factual info post as this.

Ye got me there.

Smidge

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

I prefer the ones who don't apologise for murder thanks.

So if they apologise for murder, you'd vote for them?
Can't have jam on your egg.

Edit. Wait, I've just re-read this...
So are you saying you LIKE the ones who aren't sorry for murder????
I reckon you're having a laugh at this stage

mickydoomsux

Banjo String wrote: »

Well I suppose it'll be hard to dispute that, such a well rounded, full of factual info post as this.

Ye got me there.

Where's your evidence that it will/might happen?

Iwasfrozen

Smidge wrote: »

So if they apologise for murder, you'd vote for them?
Can't have jam on your egg.

Nope, if they removed all ex-terrorists from their party and openly condemned the IRA I'd consider voting for them though.

The Backwards Man

My name is URL wrote: »

I don't know or care

A SF supporter's answer if ever I saw one.

Nodin

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

There really isn't any other answer to your "workers of the world unite" nonsense other than cop on I'm afraid.

Will yer honour be inspectin the village later? They're all lined up and scrubbed for yer honours perusal....

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

The opposite of violence..

Threats and signing a covenant, maybe?

tayto lover

Eamon Coughlan eliminated.
That's Prime Time debating for you.

steddyeddy

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

The opposite of violence. :rolleyes:

You don't believe in war or anything involving violence?

Banjo String

mickydoomsux wrote: »

Where's your evidence that it will/might happen?

Well the only 'evidence' I have is that it's pretty much a well known fact they campaigned for an abolishment of the property tax, and vowed to scrap it if they got the chance.

In local government, they won't have the power to scrap it, but they will be able to reduce it by a 15% cut.

We'll have to wait and see I suppose.

Smidge

steddyeddy wrote: »

You don't believe in war or anything involving violence?

Keep up Eddy, he already said that
He reckons that things were probably a "bit tough" for the Catholics in the North but they should have had the decency to sit down and "talk about their feeling" with the UK government

Bannasidhe

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

They have ex-terrorists in their ranks and have never condemned the IRA.

Or to put it another way they have neither lied about their past or attempted to whitewash it to cater to populists eager to ride a high moral horse but who are willing to benefit from 'terrorist' actions as long as no one admits they were 'terrorist' actions.

Smidge

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Or to put it another way they have neither lied about their past or attempted to whitewash it to cater to populists who are willing to benefit from 'terrorist' actions as long as no one admits they were 'terrorist' actions.

<-<
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*not looking in the direction of former members of the Workers Party*

Aidric

tayto lover wrote: »

Eamon Coughlan eliminated.
That's Prime Time debating for you.

Has Kenneth Egan been elected yet? :pac:

My name is URL

Aidric wrote: »

Has Kenneth Egan been elected yet? :pac:

Pretty much, unfortunately

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/former-olympian-egan-set-for-seat-631482.html

harry Bailey esq

corner of hells wrote: »

I love random comments that bear no relevance to anything , on the day of my wedding I won two Euros on a scratch card.

it was your wedding day and you sat around actin the bollix with a coin scratching scratchcards? How's the marriage goin by the way? :pac:

Da Shins Kelly

I'd say it's going almost exactly according to plan for Sinn Fein. They're not looking to run away with the vote in every constituency but they're winning most of the seats they wanted and, perhaps crucially, getting seats in the Dublin council. It bodes well for the future. They're still establishing themselves properly. I'm not even sure they have their eye on 2016. They won't want to get into government as a minority in coalition and then take a battering like Labour have. I reckon they're looking to 2021, when they can come into it with a strong hand and a solid voting base across the country where they can soundly compete with Fine Gael. They're playing the long game.

I dont know who is the solution at this stage. I realise there has to be a middle ground found between austerity and anti austerity and that's fair enough.

However, my perception seems to be that both FG and Labour are hell bent on creating a two tier society. Since they have went into government we have had to endure several charges and yet still the same wastage and inefficiencies. Europe calls the shots where these windbags are concerned.

They have effectively hammered their own country people with taxes and charges while all the while they have patsied to the demands of the Eurocrats who now dictate every aspect of how this country is ran.

I realise that we wont get everything our own way but a government should serve its population whereas in Ireland at present the people are serving the government in order to earn them browning points. We need strong characters in Europe who will argue for a better deal and not meek little gombeens. Thats all i ask for, those who will knock on the door and ask the hard questions of Barroso, Van Rumpoy and co.