Way to go Sinn Fein

Nodin

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

I'd say it's going almost exactly according to plan for Sinn Fein. They're not looking to run away with the vote in every constituency but they're winning most of the seats they wanted and, perhaps crucially, getting seats in the Dublin council. It bodes well for the future. They're still establishing themselves properly. I'm not even sure they have their eye on 2016. They won't want to get into government as a minority in coalition and then take a battering like Labour have. I reckon they're looking to 2021, when they can come into it with a strong hand and a solid voting base across the country where they can soundly compete with Fine Gael. They're playing the long game.

...the only game in town.

Aidric

My name is URL wrote: »

Pretty much, unfortunately

http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/former-olympian-egan-set-for-seat-631482.html

Jesus, I wrote that jokingly. When I checked the news this morning they were saying he was out of the running.

Bannasidhe

Aidric wrote: »

Jesus, I wrote that jokingly. When I checked the news this morning they were saying he was out of the running.

I know - me too. Now I'm all :eek:

Inner City Hedgehog

Up the Ra!

mickydoomsux

Banjo String wrote: »

Well the only 'evidence' I have is that it's pretty much a well known fact they campaigned for an abolishment of the property tax, and vowed to scrap it if they got the chance.

In local government, they won't have the power to scrap it, but they will be able to reduce it by a 15% cut.

We'll have to wait and see I suppose.

I'm not even singling SF out but what you are going to see with any candidate that campaigned on that platform is a mildly embarrassing back down when they realise that there is som legal snare hidden in there somewhere that stops them from even doing that much.

Karl Stein

Let there be no doubt about one thing. If SF were in government they'd not be rolling over and having their tummies tickled by the Europeans when it comes to negotiating on things like debt relief.

Next general election will be very interesting. Labour will undoubtedly have to try and rebuild and clear the rubble in which case the damage is well and truly done. So that leaves a situation where we have three new possibilites

1. Possible FG/FF alliance with Sinn Fein/AAA/Socialists/PBP/indos??
2. Rainbow coalition of SF, Socialists, indos, etc?
3. unthinkable FF/FG coalition?

That's assuming Labour will suffer and my own personal opinion is that i think the writing could be on the wall for them after today.

We live in interesting times.

Santa Cruz

Inner City Hedgehog wrote: »

Up the Ra!

Gob****e

pconn062

Karl Stein wrote: »

Let there be no doubt about one thing. If SF were in government they'd not be rolling over and having their tummies tickled by the Europeans when it comes to negotiating on things like debt relief.

Not sure if serious.....

Santa Cruz

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

I'd say it's going almost exactly according to plan for Sinn Fein. They're not looking to run away with the vote in every constituency but they're winning most of the seats they wanted and, perhaps crucially, getting seats in the Dublin council. It bodes well for the future. They're still establishing themselves properly. I'm not even sure they have their eye on 2016. They won't want to get into government as a minority in coalition and then take a battering like Labour have. I reckon they're looking to 2021, when they can come into it with a strong hand and a solid voting base across the country where they can soundly compete with Fine Gael. They're playing the long game.

If they get the chance of power in 2016 and don't take it then they can forget about 2021. Elections are for the people not for the self interest of a party

wazky

pconn062 wrote: »

Not sure if serious.....

SF have been dealing with major international politicians for decades?

Unlike most other Irish politicians, whose dealings would most likely involve cattle or what's for homework.

Red Nissan

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Gob****e

When we come to the door, you won't be asked for an apology.

Smidge

Its just been announced that former country and western singer TR Dallas has lost his seat
I sh1t you not, you couldn't make this up!!!

Karl Stein

wazky wrote: »

SF have been dealing with major international politicians for decades?

And ones closer to home while trying to avoid being assassinated by their boot boys.

spongebob89

frimpong wrote: »

I disagree. People under 25 have grown up with little to no experience of the troubles. People under 18 have grown with no experience of the troubles whatsoever. Most young people now have no hang ups about Sinn Fein as they will have only ever known them as another political party. Sinn Feins support will only grow over the next ten years imo, particularly in the under 25 age group.

You dam skip.. Im 24 an gave my vote to sf because i believe the other party's are a shower of bastards only out for them selves

Yea yea murders this murders that, ff and them boys were worse if you go back long enough..

So why not give sf a go and see what they can do.. Labour have been no better than ff and full of empty promises.. Get sf into opposition to hassle the *****

The Backwards Man

Karl Stein wrote: »

Let there be no doubt about one thing. If SF were in government they'd not be rolling over and having their tummies tickled by the Europeans when it comes to negotiating on things like debt relief.

Like they do in Stormont?

Red Nissan

Iwasfrozen wrote: »

You're a bit late there Nissy.

I know new millennium only 14 years old an I ain't got used to writing it yet.

Smidge

Smidge wrote: »

Its just been announced that former country and western singer TR Dallas has lost his seat
I sh1t you not, you couldn't make this up!!!

We've had enough of the cowboys

ill get my coat.........:o

Da Shins Kelly

Santa Cruz wrote: »

If they get the chance of power in 2016 and don't take it then they can forget about 2021. Elections are for the people not for the self interest of a party

Why should they forget about 2021? It would be better for everyone if they held off and established themselves further rather than rushing into government like Labour did. We all know what happens to parties that do that. I'm sure Sinn Fein don't want their party decimated. It would be much more practical and wiser for them and everyone if they hold off until they're really ready to be in government.

Karl Stein

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Like they do in Stormont?

Huh?

Santa Cruz

Red Nissan wrote: »

When we come to the door, you won't be asked for an apology.

Another keyboard hardman who'd **** in his pants if he heard a baloon burst. The exact type of scum who SF will deal with when they get power

Lastlight.

Would have thought they would do better considering they are populist and know how to lie and deceive people. But seems it hasn't worked.

The Backwards Man

Karl Stein wrote: »

Huh?

Oh sorry, it's Westminster that tickles their tummies there, not the EU.

My mistake, carry on.:)

Karl Stein

The Backwards Man wrote: »

Oh sorry, it's Westminster that tickles their tummies there

You've lost me tBM.

Santa Cruz

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Why should they forget about 2021? It would be better for everyone if they held off and established themselves further rather than rushing into government like Labour did. We all know what happens to parties that do that. I'm sure Sinn Fein don't want their party decimated. It would be much more practical and wiser for them and everyone if they hold off until they're really ready to be in government.

If by their votes the people show they want Sinn Fein in government it would be very arrogant of the SF leadership to deny this. Perish the thought that they would behave like other parties. Is it all about Sinn Fein or does the will of the people matter? Are you showing your true colours already?

Lenin Skynard

Smidge wrote: »

Its just been announced that former country and western singer TR Dallas has lost his seat

Perfect thing for him to write a country song about.

Phoebas

Fair play to SF, they did very well today.
For the first time they are now going to hold real power in councils around the country where they will have the power to reject the annual budget. The proof of the pudding is in the eating, so it'll be interesting to see how they perform now that they've joined the establishment.

I guess SF controlled councils and council where SF hold the balance of power will be reducing the property tax by 15% next year. I wonder what services they'll choose to cut to pay for it.

Red Nissan

Santa Cruz wrote: »

Another keyboard hardman who'd **** in his pants if he heard a baloon burst. The exact type of scum who SF will deal with when they get power

You lack subtility to be a shiner.

It's like if Gerry Adams a few years ago had said, I can make one phone call and get a hit squad to make you disappear and burnt your house and business to the ground.

But he was subtle he just said, with no reference whatsoever ...

"they haven't gone away you know!"

Lastlight.

By 2021, the Irish economy and everything could be better. Sinn Fein need to make head way now when people are annoyed and pissed off and slightly vulnerable to the lies of Sinn Fein.

Karl Stein

Lastlight. wrote: »

Would have thought they would do better considering they are populist and know how to lie and deceive people. But seems it hasn't worked.

So even when they're winning they're losing?

Dumb post is oh so dumb.