The official Sky Sports GAA Thread!

RoyalCelt

The last thread was train wreck in terms of what I want to do with this thread. It's not a debate over whether or not the deal should have been done.

It's a place to discuss and post the best/worst bits of their coverage so far. And as the year goes on we can decide if we like them on board or not.

The dust has settled so please answer the poll on whether you approve or disapprove the deal. Alternatively you can wait till their live coverage gets underway and decide then.

The announcement on Sky Sports.

Sky Sports News report on the Down v Tyrone match. (HQ link above)

Their First TV Ad

That's all for now in terms of video coverage. Feel free to post more up as the summer goes on.

Here's their lineup for the summer. They will have guests appearing as the year goes on but these are the main ones.
http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=216583http://www.hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=216583

Carney reveals that reduced rates will be offered to clubs:
Rachel Wyse, Peter Canavan, Jamesie O'Connor and Steve Smith Discuss the deal

An article in the Irish times which deals more with how the games will be analysed
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/sky-sports-show-they-mean-business-with-gaa-coverage-1.1801857?page=1

And the examiner, which is more a summary of the more lengthy articles in the other 2 papers
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/sky-sets-high-bar-for-gaa-coverage-269238.html

Also looking forward to debating GAA on sky when their live coverage begins in a few weeks. One thing I'll be looking for is a more positive approach than Irish broadcasters currently give.

(Thanks to munchkin_utd & nm for their contributions)

Dirty Dingus McGee

GAA was on the Sky Sports new ticker on the bottom of the screen last night and its ahead of Gymnastics in the pecking order.

munchkin_utd

No

are the GAA results/ highlights also on the sports reports on normal Sky News- which is recently now "presented" by sky sports news in that format with tickers/ tables all over the place?

I'd look at it myself but Sky news on my cable network is only from (irish time) 5am to 5pm, so didnt get to see any potential coverage yesterday evening.

RoyalCelt

No

munchkin_utd wrote: »

are the GAA results/ highlights also on the sports reports on normal Sky News- which is recently now "presented" by sky sports news in that format with tickers/ tables all over the place?

I'd look at it myself but Sky news on my cable network is only from (irish time) 5am to 5pm, so didnt get to see any potential coverage yesterday evening.

Not sure what you mean but they've had plenty of articles up on heir site about the GAA despite their coverage not beginning for another 2 weeks I think. http://www1.skysports.com/gaa/

salmocab

these couple of clips are a pretty reasonable start I think, a few little mistakes but they are minor enough really. Its good to see them explaining things to a new audience. Also we can have a summer giggling at mispronunciations.

iDave

No

The advertising has kicked into gear this morning. A number of ads on DART stations this morning for their coverage.

RoyalCelt

No

iDave wrote: »

The advertising has kicked into gear this morning. A number of ads on DART stations this morning for their coverage.

They really mean business by the looks of it. Can't wait to see them cover hurling. If their excitement for the football is anything to go by it should be epic!

munchkin_utd

No

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Not sure what you mean but they've had plenty of articles up on heir site about the GAA despite their coverage not beginning for another 2 weeks I think. http://www1.skysports.com/gaa/

cant access sky sports clips from abroad, and sky sports news isnt available abroad either unless you have a sky account.

BUT sky news is available abroad and is on many cable networks, and they have half hour sports bulletins on Saturday and sunday evenings in a sky sports format ("presented by sky sports" or the like) so I was just wondering if these GAA highlights will be in homes worldwide on regular (news) sky news.

RoyalCelt

No

munchkin_utd wrote: »

cant access sky sports clips from abroad, and sky sports news isnt available abroad either unless you have a sky account.

BUT sky news is available abroad and is on many cable networks, and they have half hour sports bulletins on Saturday and sunday evenings in a sky sports format ("presented by sky sports" or the like) so I was just wondering if these GAA highlights will be in homes worldwide on regular (news) sky news.

I'm not 100% sure but I doubt. Thought they only had the UK rights? They set up the GAAGO app for people like you. €110 for 45 championship matches or €10 per individual match.

statto25

No

iDave wrote: »

The advertising has kicked into gear this morning. A number of ads on DART stations this morning for their coverage.

They are announcing presenter and panelists today so they will probably kick the advertising up a notch his week.

RoyalCelt

No

statto25 wrote: »

They are announcing presenter and panelists today so the will probably kick the advertising up a notch his week.

Have you any idea what time they will announce it? Their Twitter account has close to 20k followers already and that's decent considering they haven't ramped up promotion or begun live coverage yet.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsGAA

statto25

No

RoyalCelt wrote: »

Have you any idea what time they will announce it? Their Twitter account has close to 20k followers already and that's decent considering they haven't ramped up promotion or begun live coverage yet.

https://twitter.com/SkySportsGAA

No idea I just seen a tweet this morning from an Irish media source saying they would announce the team this morning. The Irish Examiner has an article online this morning saying that a lot of the TV3 panelists will be used by Sky.

munchkin_utd

No

RoyalCelt wrote: »

I'm not 100% sure but I doubt. Thought they only had the UK rights? They set up the GAAGO app for people like you. €110 for 45 championship matches or €10 per individual match.

sky news international has 100% the same content as what you see in Ireland, the only difference ever being that they show different adverts and fill the rest of the breaks with small news articles, similar to RTE news now when theres an ad break in a live Prime Time programme.

So literally everything from International Rugby to Premiership soccer, la liga, cricket is shown with highlights, which is middling substantial on the 30minute sports slot. To have GAA would be nice, and I'd actually expect it once the soccer season is over.

And its got a fairly big reach!
Sky News already reaches over 90 million homes worldwide, so getting a little GAA in there would be a big plus!
http://www.skynewsinternational.com/carry

RoyalCelt

No

statto25 wrote: »

No idea I just seen a tweet this morning from an Irish media source saying they would announce the team this morning. The Irish Examiner has an article online this morning saying that a lot of the TV3 panelists will be used by Sky.

the examiner said they will announce it at a press conference in croke park later today.

RoyalCelt

No

munchkin_utd wrote: »

sky news international has 100% the same content as what you see in Ireland, the only difference ever being that they show different adverts and fill the rest of the breaks with small news articles, similar to RTE news now when theres an ad break in a live Prime Time programme.

So literally everything from International Rugby to Premiership soccer, la liga, cricket is shown with highlights, which is middling substantial on the 30minute sports slot. To have GAA would be nice, and I'd actually expect it once the soccer season is over.

And its got a fairly big reach!
Sky News already reaches over 90 million homes worldwide, so getting a little GAA in there would be a big plus!
http://www.skynewsinternational.com/carry

I'd imagine they will give it a few mentions when they cover a big game live. SO I can definitely see the hurling and football finals getting a bit of time and some of the bigger matches before!

statto25

No

Fairly predictable lineup bar Brian Carney. Does he have a GAA background?

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/no-paul-galvin-on-sky-s-gaa-team-1.1801367

Duggie2012

No

oh it might aswell be tv3's coverage. terrible commentators. very disappointed.

iDave

No

Don't think anyone predicted Brian Carney. Its just an anchor role so don't expect any analysis from him.

nice_guy80

Aw. No Matt Cooper.
Oh well.

iDave

No

Ad for their coverage

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=216617

AugustusMinimus

I'm interested to see what Sky will do in regards to mid week content.

I hope they get this midweek highlights show up and running and a simple debate showing previewing all the weekends upcoming action would be nice.

Also, I presume they will show reruns of previous All-Ireland or the like to give the UK public a taste of what to expect ?

LETS BE AVN IT

Nothing to get excited about with that line up very bland was hoping for some recently retired players to be involved.

nxbyveromdwjpg

No

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GnrSJhd-28

RoyalCelt

No

AugustusMinimus wrote: »

I'm interested to see what Sky will do in regards to mid week content.

I hope they get this midweek highlights show up and running and a simple debate showing previewing all the weekends upcoming action would be nice.

Also, I presume they will show reruns of previous All-Ireland or the like to give the UK public a taste of what to expect ?

The mid week show will not be a debate but a highlights package. Personally I prefer this as you can just sit down and watch all the highlights without any interruption between them.

The panel was announced and have to say I think it's alright. Rachel on the panel is a big plus I must say. Can't beat a bit of glamour!

RoyalCelt

No

nm wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GnrSJhd-28

cheers. I added that to the opening post!

munchkin_utd

No

a wee bit of further info coming out after the press conference yesterday

Sky's match coverage will last for around three hours and is expected to be broadcast mostly on Sky Sports 3. A highlights package will be shown on Wednesday night but will not initially contain analysis and will use commentaries from RTE for matches Sky haven't covered live themselves.

Smith, who has worked with Sky Sports for 20 years, estimated that they may add up to seven extra cameras to the "12 or 13" that may already be used on big match days by the host broadcasters to give an extra edge.

All the analysis will be done 'on site' at the venues where the matches are being played.

It is planned to position the main cameras for the Nowlan Park opener in a way that will cut out the view of the stand which is still roofless after the violent storm that damaged it so badly in February.

Smith also stressed that they would not be "dumbing down" their coverage to cater for UK viewers who may not be familiar with the product.

He estimated that Sky Sports News has a regular audience of two million viewers but the number of Sky subscribers in the UK is thought to be over 10 million.

Giving a "greater insight" into the modern game will be a priority, he stressed.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/sky-play-it-safe-with-bigname-analysts-30287224.html

and an article in the Irish times which deals more with how the games will be analysed
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/sky-sports-show-they-mean-business-with-gaa-coverage-1.1801857?page=1

and the examiner, which is more a summary of the more lengthy articles in the other 2 papers
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/sky-sets-high-bar-for-gaa-coverage-269238.html

Prop Joe

Undecided

All the analysis will be done 'on site' at the venues where the matches are being played.

This is gonna be TV3 all over again..Cant wait to see what Sky think of interviews like this

munchkin_utd

No

Prop Joe wrote: »

All the analysis will be done 'on site' at the venues where the matches are being played.

This is gonna be TV3 all over again..Cant wait to see what Sky think of interviews like this

not sure.
Dont BBC bring a wee portacabin with a window with them for the analysis?

keane2097

No

Brian Carney said yesterday that they will have temporary studios and won't be on the sideline.

Prop Joe

Undecided

keane2097 wrote: »

Brian Carney said yesterday that they will have temporary studios and won't be on the sideline.

That's a good job,Analysis on the sideline don't really do it for me

keane2097

No

Prop Joe wrote: »

That's a good job,Analysis on the sideline don't really do it for me

Yeah totally agree. Also Canavan was talkin yesterday about being able to us the Sky technology to help analyse games which will presumably need more of a studio set up. Maybe they'll put together some sort of roadcaster effort. Bè interesting to see.

Brian017

Sky are going to be shooting from the Old Stand in Nowlan Park, as they don't want the viewers to see the damage caused by the storm we had in February.

Prop Joe

Undecided

Brian017 wrote: »

Sky are going to be shooting from the Old Stand in Nowlan Park, as they don't want the viewers to see the damage caused by the storm we had in February.

To be honest i wish RTE would reverse the camera's to show the side with the bigger crowd,They do it for the Ladies/Camogie finals in Croker.

RoyalCelt

No

Prop Joe wrote: »

To be honest i wish RTE would reverse the camera's to show the side with the bigger crowd,They do it for the Ladies/Camogie finals in Croker.

Yeah great to hear SKy doing this. TG4 and RTE don't give a damn what it looks like as a spectacle. In fairness to TG4 they have small budget but RTE would have just faced the camera's into the damaged stand.

I love the way Sky actually care how it looks to the viewer thus making the games look as good as possible.

Duggie2012

No

how long does it take to fix the stand anyway?? happened months ago now.

munchkin_utd

No

Duggie2012 wrote: »

how long does it take to fix the stand anyway?? happened months ago now.

its aparantly a 4 month repair process but you cant use it if its a building site so its being postponed till at least after the game in a couple of weeks
http://kclr96fm.com/sport/old-stand-roofless-kilkennys-clash-offaly/

Duggie2012

No

munchkin_utd wrote: »

its aparantly a 4 month repair process but you cant use it if its a building site so its being postponed till at least after the game in a couple of weeks
http://kclr96fm.com/sport/old-stand-roofless-kilkennys-clash-offaly/

4 months just to fix a wind damaged stand, seems a long time. you could build a full stadium in roughly a year and a half.

iDave

No

Joe Brolly really is making a fool of himself on Twitter

iDave

No

and now hes made an embarrassing apology to Rachel Wyse.

elefant

No

iDave wrote: »

and now hes made an embarrassing apology to Rachel Wyse.

The amount of lads there working in RTE with no background of note at all in GAA, soccer, rugby, yet Brolly decides to pick on Sky's broadcaster Rachel Wyse.

He hardly has an agenda does he?

premierstone

No

Duggie2012 wrote: »

4 months just to fix a wind damaged stand, seems a long time. you could build a full stadium in roughly a year and a half.

It was an asbestos filled stand and the dmage was substantial.

Thud

No

interesting to see the difference between this (allbeit very small poll) and the one in the independent today...

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/sky-get-fans-thumbs-down-over-gaa-payperview-deal-30291241.html

can find how many people they polled though

RoyalCelt

No

Thud wrote: »

interesting to see the difference between this (allbeit very small poll) and the one in the independent today...

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=90467151

can find how many people they polled though

The link you posted just leads me to the reply section....

56% are against it according to their poll. I can only imagine their reader demographic is much older than people who voted here and we're all probably a lot more informed.

I read a comment the other day of a woman complaining to a newspaper saying men have spent their whole life watching the gaa. She obviously doesn't realize that we have 27 more championship matches live on tv now compared to 40 years ago. That doesn't include the BBC either. Some people just love a good moan without looking at the facts.

Thud

No

RoyalCelt wrote: »

The link you posted just leads me to the reply section....

fixed now

munchkin_utd

No

RoyalCelt wrote: »

<snip>
I read a comment the other day of a woman complaining to a newspaper saying men have spent their whole life watching the gaa. She obviously doesn't realize that we have 27 more championship matches live on tv now compared to 40 years ago. .

just in that vein of though, there was a VERY interesting article in the Irish times (which is becoming a welcome pattern for a paper which normally sees U12 reserve schoolboy rugby as more important than a major GAA game) last week which has some gems on how little to no GAA was on the TV until the relatively recent past.

In 1987, the Munster final between Tipperary and Cork was fixed for Fitzgerald stadium and interest greatly exceeded the 45,000 capacity. For a few giddy weeks, a rumour went around that the GAA were considering allowing the game to be broadcast live. In the end, though, the move was considered too risqué. (edit: and game was NOT shown)

(edit: soccer seemed to be a massive threat after the hype of Italia 90)
Instead, the 1990s became the period of great transition for the GAA.
The extraordinary four-game saga between Dublin and Meath in the first round of the Leinster championship arrived with providential timing. The soaring narrative gripped the country and every single championship after that, from the Ulster football renaissance of the early 1990s to the hurling revolution from 1995-1999 seemed to have memorable tales. And by 1994, the games went live on television.

http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/arrival-of-sky-to-herald-a-new-era-1.1795918

RoyalCelt

No

munchkin_utd wrote: »

just in that vein of though, there was a VERY interesting article in the Irish times (which is becoming a welcome pattern for a paper which normally sees U12 reserve schoolboy rugby as more important than a major GAA game) last week which has some gems on how little to no GAA was on the TV until the relatively recent past.


http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/arrival-of-sky-to-herald-a-new-era-1.1795918

I'd say the Irish times don't want to miss out on the extra GAA hype sky is bringing to the fold this year. Good to see but I wouldn't be counting on them for too long for top notch GAA coverage.

curioser

elefant wrote: »

The amount of lads there working in RTE with no background of note at all in GAA, soccer, rugby, yet Brolly decides to pick on Sky's broadcaster Rachel Wyse.

He hardly has an agenda does he?

Brolly does most of his talking through his fundamental orifice!

Anyone who reads Rachel Wyse's column in Saturday's Irish Independent knows that she is very knowledgeable on a wide spectrum of sports, including socer, Gaelic games, rugby, horse racing.

Now, remind me of the number of sports that Brolly writes on.

J DEERE

Is there any way to stream sky sports overseas?

keane2097

No

curioser wrote: »

Brolly does most of his talking through his fundamental orifice!

Anyone who reads Rachel Wyse's column in Saturday's Irish Independent knows that she is very knowledgeable on a wide spectrum of sports, including socer, Gaelic games, rugby, horse racing.

Now, remind me of the number of sports that Brolly writes on.

There's way too much pandering to former intercounty players in all facets of GAA anyway if you ask me. There are as many dummies out there with All Ireland medals as there are geniuses.

In Brolly's case, it's pretty telling that he has a problem with the International Showjumper rather than the International Rugby Player - wonder what the difference is.

Duckworth_Luas

RoyalCelt wrote: »

I'd say the Irish times don't want to miss out on the extra GAA hype sky is bringing to the fold this year. Good to see but I wouldn't be counting on them for too long for top notch GAA coverage.

I've been a regular Irish Times reader for the last 14 years. In that time their GAA coverage has always been top notch. Keith Duggan and Malachy Clerkin are regarded among the top sports writers in the country, not just GAA writers.

klairondavis

Duckworth_Luas wrote: »

I've been a regular Irish Times reader for the last 14 years. In that time their GAA coverage has always been top notch. Keith Duggan and Malachy Clerkin are regarded among the top sports writers in the country, not just GAA writers.

+1

John O'Keeffe's column on a Saturday is generally a good read. Insightful and fair without any of the cliched nonsense you get from some of the more higher profile pundits.