Mispronunciation/ Poor grammar that annoys you?

mfceiling · 28-06-2014 1:32pm

brooke 2 wrote: »

People in the media - Áine Lawlor take note - who mispronounce Tuam as Tu-am!
It is as though they think they know better than those who have lived in the area for generations!!

That's actually meeja..

Shy Ted · 16-07-2014 6:58am

Sit-chi-ation for situation.
Mainly used in Norn Iron.

Retrovertigo · 16-07-2014 7:06am

Pretty apt for the thread.

marie12 · 16-07-2014 8:15am

Hearse instead of horse ...grrr

You may close that door. Oh really!

I used to work in a pizzeria and the amount of people who couldn't pronounce hawaiian was bewildering.

fxotoole · 16-07-2014 8:18am

People mixing up they're/their/there or our/are really does my head in. This is primary school level grammar fails, yet some uni grads can't even get it right.

kleefarr · 11-09-2014 9:59am

My gripe...

People that use BRING for everything.

The very common verbs bring and take are sometimes
troublesome for learners of English. One reason this happens
is because bring and take have almost identical meanings
but are used for different "directions" in English: bring
shows movement toward the speaker, but take shows
movement away from the speaker.

If A needs something and wants B to get it and carry it
to him or her, A says, "Could you bring ___ to me?"
(or "Could you bring me ___ ?").

If A has something and A wants B to get it and carry
it to C, A says, "Could you take ___ to C?" (B then
takes ___ from A and takes it to C.)

Maximus Alexander · 12-09-2014 7:55pm

Stop that, you'll bring this thread to a halt.

Bepolite · 12-09-2014 7:58pm

ppl dat abv. evryting just to use loads of puncuation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

People that think a question requires 5 question marks.

People who type walls of text without even trying to paragraph it.

kleefarr · 12-09-2014 8:07pm

Maximus Alexander wrote: »

Stop that, you'll bring this thread to a halt.

Just trying to take it to a different level.

LordSutch · 12-09-2014 8:31pm

kleefarr wrote: »

My gripe...

People that use BRING for everything.

Very true, as most Irish parents bring their kids to school, whereas they should take their children to school. I would also make sure they bring their lunch boxes with them.

garancafan · 12-09-2014 11:35pm

LordSutch wrote: »

Very true, as most Irish parents bring their kids to school, whereas they should take their children to school. I would also make sure they bring their lunch boxes with them.

Fascinating example (thanks kleefar) - wonderful subtleties and nuances:-

To me, one parent would bring a willing and compliant kid to school but another parent may have to take a child to school.

In either case they should both bring their lunchboxes.

kleefarr · 13-09-2014 1:50am

Suffice to say....

Practice here... http://freerice.com/#/english-grammar

sand678 · 13-09-2014 6:37pm

peoplw who say do be, i do be real annoyed with that....

Sam Kade · 13-09-2014 6:44pm

sand678 wrote: »

peoplw who say do be, i do be real annoyed with that....

Bad spelling

sand678 · 13-09-2014 6:45pm

Sam Kade wrote: »

Bad spelling

bad typing

ezra_pound · 13-09-2014 10:51pm

kleefarr wrote: »

My gripe...

People that use BRING for everything.

The very common verbs bring and take are sometimes
troublesome for learners of English. One reason this happens
is because bring and take have almost identical meanings
but are used for different "directions" in English: bring
shows movement toward the speaker, but take shows
movement away from the speaker.

If A needs something and wants B to get it and carry it
to him or her, A says, "Could you bring ___ to me?"
(or "Could you bring me ___ ?").

If A has something and A wants B to get it and carry
it to C, A says, "Could you take ___ to C?" (B then
takes ___ from A and takes it to C.)

In Ireland the use of take and bring are totally different to the use in the UK. In Ireland this is correct grammar.

Edit: as far as I know this has already been dealt with earlier in this thread. If not it has been dealt with elsewhere.

I presume you are not Irish.

Henry Sidney · 13-09-2014 10:52pm

ezra_pound wrote: »

In Ireland the use of take and bring are totally different to the use in the UK. In Ireland this is correct grammar.

Bullshït, it's just laziness or stupidity. "Hiberno-English is the usual excuse..." It is completely incorrect, along with the likes of "does be" and when people are "allowed do" something rather than "allowed to do".

ezra_pound · 13-09-2014 10:56pm

Henry Sidney wrote: »

Bullshït, it's just laziness or stupidity. "Hiberno-English is the usual excuse..." It is completely incorrect, along with the likes of "does be" and when people are "allowed do" something rather than "allowed to do".

Bring and take: Irish use of these words differs from that of British English because it follows the Gaelic grammar for beir and tóg. English usage is determined by direction; person determines Irish usage. So, in English, one takes "from here to there", and brings it "to here from there". In Irish, a person takes only when accepting a transfer of possession of the object from someone else – and a person brings at all other times, irrespective of direction (to or from).

Don't forget to bring your umbrella with you when you leave.
(To a child) Hold my hand: I don't want someone to take you.

ezra_pound · 13-09-2014 10:57pm

Henry Sidney wrote: »

Bullshït, it's just laziness or stupidity. "Hiberno-English is the usual excuse..." It is completely incorrect, along with the likes of "does be" and when people are "allowed do" something rather than "allowed to do".

How often do you say take an umbrella with you?

Henry Sidney · 13-09-2014 10:59pm

ezra_pound wrote: »

Bring and take: Irish use of these words differs from that of British English because it follows the Gaelic grammar for beir and tóg. English usage is determined by direction; person determines Irish usage. So, in English, one takes "from here to there", and brings it "to here from there". In Irish, a person takes only when accepting a transfer of possession of the object from someone else – and a person brings at all other times, irrespective of direction (to or from).

Don't forget to bring your umbrella with you when you leave.
(To a child) Hold my hand: I don't want someone to take you.

That does not in any way make it a correct use of English. If you want to speak Irish, speak bloody Irish. Otherwise please speak English in a way that at least does not make you sound incapable of structuring a sentence.

Oh, and remember the word "to" exists!!!!

Henry Sidney · 13-09-2014 11:01pm

ezra_pound wrote: »

How often do you say take an umbrella with you?

Any time I would be talking to someone about leaving the house in the rain. I would never say "bring" anything with you, it's simply wrong. Only the Irish would do that. Just pick a language and stick to it.

ezra_pound · 13-09-2014 11:01pm

Henry Sidney wrote: »

Bullshït, it's just laziness or stupidity. "Hiberno-English is the usual excuse..." It is completely incorrect, along with the likes of "does be" and when people are "allowed do" something rather than "allowed to do".

Do you take your packed lunch to school to get good grammatical instruction?

No because you're Irish so you bring your lunch to school.

ezra_pound · 13-09-2014 11:02pm

Henry Sidney wrote: »

Any time I would be talking to someone about leaving the house in the rain. I would never say "bring" anything with you, it's simply wrong. Only the Irish would do that. Just pick a language and stick to it.

Are you Irish?

ezra_pound · 13-09-2014 11:03pm

Henry Sidney wrote: »

That does not in any way make it a correct use of English. If you want to speak Irish, speak bloody Irish. Otherwise please speak English in a way that at least does not make you sound incapable of structuring a sentence.

Oh, and remember the word "to" exists!!!!

I didn't write that.

Henry Sidney · 13-09-2014 11:03pm

ezra_pound wrote: »

Are you Irish?

No I am not, just sick of hearing Irish people mangle the language whenever I have to go there.

coffee_cake · 13-09-2014 11:04pm

Henry Sidney wrote: »

Bullshït, it's just laziness or stupidity. "Hiberno-English is the usual excuse..." It is completely incorrect, along with the likes of "does be" and when people are "allowed do" something rather than "allowed to do".

Dropping prepositions is a lazy thing, not an Irish thing
"I went to school Monday" is one that drives me up the wall, as well as "what happened it"

Henry Sidney · 13-09-2014 11:04pm

ezra_pound wrote: »

I didn't write that.

I know, it was a general comment.

Henry Sidney · 13-09-2014 11:05pm

bluewolf wrote: »

Dropping prepositions is a lazy thing, not an Irish thing
"I went to school Monday" is one that drives me up the wall, as well as "what happened it"

Never heard either of those. Certainly seems an Irish issue to me, don't hear it anywhere near as much anywhere else, even among the lazy speakers.

coffee_cake · 13-09-2014 11:08pm

They drop them a fair bit in the USA

Henry Sidney · 13-09-2014 11:08pm

ezra_pound wrote: »

Do you take your packed lunch to school to get good grammatical instruction?

No because you're Irish so you bring your lunch to school.

....and Irish people speaking that way are exactly what puts me and many other employers off them. It sounds lazy, uneducated and simply wrong. I have never as would never recruit anyone who would risk the image of my company by speaking in this manner. There are intelligent people in Ireland who do not speak this way, but those who do seem to be growing in number.

Mispronunciation/ Poor grammar that annoys you?

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