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Mispronunciation/ Poor grammar that annoys you?

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    #602
    Judgement Day
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    It's a tad more complicated than just using an before vowels: http://grammartips.homestead.com/historical.html and I'm happy to go with an hotel as I read somewhere tonight that it's considered to be more refined. :D


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    #603
    coffee_cake
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Politics Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 81,310 CMod ✭✭✭✭coffee_cake


    I say hotel, not 'otel, so for me it's "a hotel"
    The h in hour is silent and a homophone with our, so an hour is fine


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    #604
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,892 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Judgement Day wrote: »
    It's a tad more complicated than just using an before vowels: http://grammartips.homestead.com/historical.html and I'm happy to go with an hotel as I read somewhere tonight that it's considered to be more refined. :D

    The An before a vowel rule does not always apply either.

    A one legged man
    A universal problem


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    #605
    megadodge
    Registered Users Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭megadodge


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    The An before a vowel rule does not always apply either.

    A one legged man
    A universal problem

    The 'an' comes before a vowel sound eg. the silent 'h' in 'hour'.

    'One' has a 'w' sound rather than that of a vowel, hence 'a one'.
    'Universal' has a 'y' sound rather than that of a vowel, hence 'a univeral'.


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    #606
    looksee
    Registered Users Posts: 28,295 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Quite and quiet.

    It is quite difficult to have a quiet conversation.


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    #607
    ratmouse
    Registered Users Posts: 2,856 ✭✭✭ratmouse


    megadodge wrote: »
    The 'an' comes before a vowel sound eg. the silent 'h' in 'hour'.

    'One' has a 'w' sound rather than that of a vowel, hence 'a one'.
    'Universal' has a 'y' sound rather than that of a vowel, hence 'a univeral'.

    That explains it pretty well actually.


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    #608
    Maximus Alexander
    Registered Users Posts: 13,080 ✭✭✭✭Maximus Alexander


    The English generally (always?) pronounce 'h' as 'aitch', so 'a' wouldn't sound right. I Hiberno-English we tend to use a hard 'h', pronounced 'haitch', so 'an' wouldn't sound right.

    It's one of the few things in written English that can give you a clue as to how the author speaks.


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    #609
    trashcan
    Registered Users Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭trashcan


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Trashcan does not agree. For him/her one must never say or write An before any word not beginning with a vowel.

    How do you know I don't agree:cool: As a matter of fact I would say "an hour" as I pronounce hour as "our" I don't however say "otel", do you ?

    Actually megadodge has explained it better than I was trying to. I agree "an" hundred;) per cent with him. It's the vowel "sound" that makes the difference.


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    #610
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,892 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    trashcan wrote: »
    How do you know I don't agree:cool: As a matter of fact I would say "an hour" as I pronounce hour as "our" I don't however say "otel", do you ?

    Actually megadodge has explained it better than I was trying to. I agree "an" hundred;) per cent with him. It's the vowel "sound" that makes the difference.

    I do sometimes say an otel in speech and lots of other people do. It just sounds natural to me to say something like: It was an hotel I always wanted to stay in.

    Other times I might say something like: A hotel like that one is too expensive. I don't think it matters as long as people know what I mean.


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    #611
    aaaaaaaahhhhhh
    Registered Users Posts: 734 ✭✭✭aaaaaaaahhhhhh


    People saying "Aksk", its pronounced "Ask"


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    #612
    garancafan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭garancafan


    looksee wrote: »
    Quite and quiet.

    It is quite difficult to have a quiet conversation.

    Quite.


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    #613
    shopaholic01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,916 ✭✭✭shopaholic01


    Modren for modern. My new pet hate.


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    #614
    dee_mc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,177 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    Safe-eh-tee for safety. Maybe it is correct, i don't know, but it's fcukin annoying.


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    #615
    Pat Custard
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 78 ✭✭Pat Custard


    I should of went to work today but I couldn't of being bothered. I done other things today instead of going their. Theyre were loads of people out in the sun today. I seen a film in the cinema today.


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    #616
    dee_mc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,177 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    Watching Vincent Browne, some woman keeps saying 'is is that', for example 'what the Labour party is going to do is is that they're going to....'
    Jaysus...


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    #617
    Sam Kade
    Registered Users Posts: 12,313 ✭✭✭✭Sam Kade


    I was talking to a fella lately who insured his van with Setanta insurance through a broker, he said that he demanded that the broker should reimburst him :D


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    #618
    JumpShivers
    Closed Accounts Posts: 580 ✭✭✭JumpShivers


    'Got my lip did'.

    Someone talking about their new lip piercing. DID? :pac:


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    #619
    Lyaiera
    Registered Users Posts: 5,818 ✭✭✭Lyaiera


    JumpShivers wrote: »
    'Got my lip did'.

    Someone talking about their new lip piercing. DID? :pac:

    I agree with that. We all know the only thing you can get did is your hair.


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    #620
    garancafan
    Registered Users Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭garancafan


    dee_mc wrote: »
    Safe-eh-tee for safety. Maybe it is correct, i don't know, but it's fcukin annoying.
    Either fcukin' or fcuking.


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    #621
    dee_mc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,177 ✭✭✭dee_mc


    garancafan wrote: »
    Either fcukin' or fcuking.

    :( I stand corrected!


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    #622
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,510 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    An ould fella around here was talking to me today and was commenting on how "Mink" Flanagan will get on in Europe.


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    #623
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,892 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    An ould fella around here was talking to me today and was commenting on how "Mink" Flanagan will get on in Europe.

    Well done for spotting that. My poor ears would struggle to hear the difference. Did he say he was heading to Crow Park on Sunday?


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    #624
    Galwayguy35
    Registered Users Posts: 16,510 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Well done for spotting that. My poor ears would struggle to hear the difference. Did he say he was heading to Crow Park on Sunday?

    No, I must ask him tomorrow and see what he says. Believe me you would hear him, he is deaf so talks very loud to make up for it.


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    #625
    colossus-x
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,202 ✭✭✭colossus-x


    JumpShivers wrote: »
    'Got my lip did'.

    Someone talking about their new lip piercing. DID? :pac:

    haha yeah ffs it's DUD not DID


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    #626
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    seen


    As in "I seen today"

    I see(n) it everywhere.

    The you're/your stuff I can live with because it sounds the same, but seen just grates on the ears.


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    #627
    Jay D
    Registered Users Posts: 2,738 ✭✭✭Jay D


    Judgement Day wrote: »
    you either speak correctly or not, the choice is yours.
    Exactly, I have always chose to speak correctly in using this and not been some pretentious oaf. Whatever about the UK or US, it is wrong and sounds stupid when an Irish person says it. Thank God it's only ever been on the media I have heard it (which by the way I do my best to avoid these days).


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    #628
    bnt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,973 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Alun wrote: »
    It's the same in the Motors forum ... cars seem to have 'breaks', and tyres (or worse still, tires :eek:) have 'threads' over there.
    The breaks / brakes one annoys me no end, too. It's another case of homophones (words that sound the same) being mistaken. These mistakes happen less often when you understand the meanings of the words, not just repeat the sounds. :o

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    #629
    OldNotWIse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,468 ✭✭✭✭OldNotWIse


    Still has to be inability (or unwillingness) to properly pronounce "ion" in a word. Simpletons that should be fuucking dragged out and shot.

    A woman the other day told me she is from "Ballybunin" - so she LIVES in a place that has "ion" in it and can't be bothered to pronounce it right :(


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    #630
    LynnGrace
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,347 ✭✭✭LynnGrace


    'Pitcher' for picture.


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    #631
    brooke 2
    Registered Users Posts: 5,472 ✭✭✭brooke 2


    People in the media - Áine Lawlor take note - who mispronounce Tuam as Tu-am!
    It is as though they think they know better than those who have lived in the area for generations!! :(


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