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I think girls would feel a lot more confident without makeup if they didn't hear "are you ok?/you look sick" whenever they go out wearing none
Its a natural reaction if someone looks paler than usual or their eyes look less defined and therefore tired, or bags not covered by concealer, it doesn't necessarily mean they look bad without it, they just look different and the first thought is that something might be wrong with them. Every one of my makeup wearing friends has had this happen at one point or another and when it does it just confirms to them that they do need to wear it, whereas its more just a case of the person not being used to their natural face.
I think it's interesting that it confirms to them that they need to wear it. Wouldn't you think it could also confirm that they've painted over their natural skin tone for so long that perhaps they're not comfortable with the way they actually look anymore?
You're right for sure. It is just a case of the person not being used to their natural face, but it also shows up the insecurities in a big way, when instead of letting everyone get used to what they look like really, they go running for the foundation.
Like Bodice Ripper, I've often been told it must be just me. I've been told by my SIL who is a high flying executive that I look like a child (for wearing no make up) - I'm 42 FFS. The day I wore some to a wedding, I looked SO grown up apparently. I naturally kept my mouth shut, as she's bigger than me
Inwardly, as I look at herself and her friend together sometimes, I wonder do they know that they look as if they are trying to look like sisters? Same flawless skin (thank you Mac), same smokey eyes (understated, in the exact same way), similar lippy and well blonded (in an actual hairdresser, like!) hair.
Perhaps it's vanity that I DON'T want to look the same as everyone else?!! I remember reading a book along those lines once actually. Must try and find it online - Mad stuff about people getting arrested for wanting their own face :eek:!0 -
I think girls would feel a lot more confident without makeup if they didn't hear "are you ok?/you look sick" whenever they go out wearing none
Its a natural reaction if someone looks paler than usual or their eyes look less defined and therefore tired, or bags not covered by concealer, it doesn't necessarily mean they look bad without it, they just look different and the first thought is that something might be wrong with them. Every one of my makeup wearing friends has had this happen at one point or another and when it does it just confirms to them that they do need to wear it, whereas its more just a case of the person not being used to their natural face.
OH God this! I used to get this so much. I have a very pale complexion and I think the fact that I have a dark hair and dark eyes might make me look a bit more zombie-ish. I was so aware of it that for a period of time you wouldn't catch me dead without make up. Even I wasn't used to my natural face any more! Eventually I found being a slave of my own insecurity quite limiting and put an end to it. + I have a sensitive skin and plastering unnecessary substances over it on a daily bases didn't do it any good either.
I don't wear make up every day and if I do it's quite light anyway. But I tend to take a good care of my skin so it looks healthy and sometimes I get my eyebrows and eye lashes tinted just to add a bit of a definition to the face. That said I like make up, I enjoy "dolling" myself up when going out. I don't do it to impress men or other women, I do it because it's fun, it's a part of the "going out" routine and it makes me feel good. Now if I only wasn't so clumsy, but that's a different story
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Eventually I found being a slave of my own insecurity quite limiting and put an end to it.
Excellent post czechlin! ^^that's exactly why I stopped too.
This is the book I was thinking of in my last post, if anyone interested. It's very 1984 like, a dystopian fantasy, but I loved it. Very disturbing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_Justice
"A young woman named Jael 97, who has been reported to the Ministry of Facial Justice for being "facially over privileged" and causing discontent among other women, approaches the Equalisation (Faces) Centre to have a synthetic "Beta" face fitted so that she will blend in with the community."0 -
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Excellent post czechlin! ^^that's exactly why I stopped too.
This is the book I was thinking of in my last post, if anyone interested. It's very 1984 like, a dystopian fantasy, but I loved it. Very disturbing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_Justice
"A young woman named Jael 97, who has been reported to the Ministry of Facial Justice for being "facially over privileged" and causing discontent among other women, approaches the Equalisation (Faces) Centre to have a synthetic "Beta" face fitted so that she will blend in with the community.."
Ah jesus, I've got read this :eek: 0 -
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Panda_Turtle wrote: »Im sorry.
Why?! I'm not having a go at you - just suggesting that this thread doesn't need to start all over again 0 -
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bodice ripper wrote: »Putting on make up for a natural look is like ****ing for virginity.
This is exactly what I dont understand.
Y'know, in all honesty, for all that I bang on about insecurities and how even the least make up is basically a cover up job on (as Czarcasm put it) the tired and blotchy look, I will fully admit to not being fully natural looking. If I was, my eyebrows would be hitting my eyelashes and I'd have a full on hairy chin/tash.
I get quite annoyed with myself for my own double standards, but it doesn't take away from the fact that young girls are RELENTLESSLY taught that looking the same as everyone else is something to strive for (young boys too, but they haven't the same tools being marketed to them - no such thing as a "free" lipstick or other face paint in a boy's mag)bodice ripper wrote: »Youve already said that you would prefer the missus the wear make up all the time like she was on a night out. Perhaps you are desensitied, but you can always see the make up. Do you think you wouldn't notice such make up on a man?
I think we're all desensitised. Imagine the SENSATION it would cause if Kylie (for example) appeared on The Voice, sans slap, hairy legged with a dark shadow over her upper lip? None of us are blame free for perpetuating this idealism IMO 0 -
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