so Larry Murphy is back in Ireland. *MOD WARNING FIRST POST*

Neeson

Everyone went quiet. Does Larry have the plastic bag out?

Strumms

Firstly, anything you hear on a phone in show on FM104 you can safely discount as BS from the word go. It's a sham of a show trading in sensationalism and fakery to pull in their audience who are mostly bordering on hard of thinking, well you'd have to be ! On the subject of 'Larry'.. From the semi-credible journalistic sources we can understand that he is under surveillance of some kind by the authorities in mainland Europe they are liaising with the Gardai re: his movements. He is well known he couldn't just sneak back into the country. I suspect if he did land back on our shores you wouldn't be hearing it first on an Fm104 phone show.

Neeson

Could Larry not get one of those latex masks the lifelike ones and wear it? He could easily walk down grafton street then without suspicion. He could order one for a few thousand euro and choose a hairstyle and so forth. Money well spent for the lad perhaps.

jescart

Has trade been hit in that Larry Murphy pub in the last 15 years? I guess not or they would have changed the name. I wouldn't like to explain in work next Tuesday how I spent the weekend enjoying myself in Larry Murphy’s...

Holsten

jescart wrote: »

Has trade been hit in that Larry Murphy pub in the last 15 years? I guess not or they would have changed the name. I wouldn't like to explain in work next Tuesday how I spent the weekend enjoying myself in Larry Murphy’s...

It's closed down, up for sale last I saw.

kumate_champ07

jane82 wrote: »

A rapist who tried to kill someone and wasnt very good at it that served ten years.
Peodo priests robbers and murderers are running around the place after serving a couple of years or serving nothing and everyone is worried about him. Face facts there is a rapist living within 5 miles of you more than likely. There could be one next door for all you know.
Why the interest in this one fella? Is it because hes ginger?

2 men out hunting happened to be in the area at the time, lucky for the victim or she'd be dead.

this man is evil and dangerous, he refused any treatment in prison and was unapologetic. his own family want nothing to do with him. he is a prime suspect in unsolved murders. he has had no rehabilitation and is a high risk of re offending.

kumate_champ07

Im also pretty sure he has special branch watching his every move if he steps back on Irish soil

yawhat!

Oh where oh where oh where is Larry
where oh where oh where is Larry
where oh where oh where is Larry
where could Larry be?

my guess? The Dublin Mountains.

carzony

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

Im also pretty sure he has special branch watching his every move if he steps back on Irish soil

doubt that. They have no legal right to follow him.

Sure last week I read a well known rapist was set free and because of the cuts in garda overtime noone was watching over him:eek:.


imagine some of the nutters walking around...

kumate_champ07

carzony wrote: »

doubt that. They have no legal right to follow him.

Sure last week I read a well known rapist was set free and because of the cuts in garda overtime noone was watching over him:eek:.


imagine some of the nutters walking around...

thats why they are called 'special' branch

sillyoulfool

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

thats why they are called 'special' branch

They're not!
They are called the Special Detective Unit.
Special Branch doesn't exist.

Sunglasses Ron

131spanner wrote: »

I've never seen him, but they say he's as big as four cats, and he's got a retractable leg so he can leap up at you better.

Larry is tremendous fun.

Has the Dutch/ Spanish media ever kicked off about the presence of a suspected foreign serial killer in their countries? Doesn't the EU have a law whereby states can exclude/ deport people who have served time for a serious offence?

Arthur Beesley

sillyoulfool wrote: »

They're not!
They are called the Special Detective Unit.
Special Branch doesn't exist.

That's what they want you to believe.

sillyoulfool

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Larry is tremendous fun.

Has the Dutch/ Spanish media ever kicked off about the presence of a suspected foreign serial killer in their countries? Doesn't the EU have a law whereby states can exclude/ deport people who have served time for a serious offence?

Not as far as I am aware, they can deport you if you commit a serious offence in their jurisdiction.

Uriel.

sillyoulfool wrote: »

Not as far as I am aware, they can deport you if you commit a serious offence in their jurisdiction.

They can prohibit residence for security reasons

Sunglasses Ron

sillyoulfool wrote: »

Not as far as I am aware, they can deport you if you commit a serious offence in their jurisdiction.

There definitely is a clause for refusing to admit someone to the country for the public good or whatever. The UK refused to allow that anti Islam Dutch politician to enter the country on said grounds.

Jesus Wept

Welcome home Larry

Uriel.

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

There definitely is a clause for refusing to admit someone to the country for the public good or whatever. The UK refused to allow that anti Islam Dutch politician to enter the country on said grounds.

It's a derogation from the right of free movement and residency.
It is for public security reasons (plus other others e.g. health).

The situation with Geert Wilder was very different. The ban, which was overturned on appeal nationally, was never challenged in the ECJ, so it is unclear if it was in keeping with EU law to be honest.

Larry Murphy's case is very different and unless a member state could show that he was a genuine immediate threat to the public then it is unlikely that such a ban would be upheld by the courts. Like with any law, particularly EU law, decisions makers must act in a proportionate way. The law also expressly states that past criminal convictions are not sufficient in themselves for banning someone.

Rachiee

You would think he is the only rapist in the country the way people go on. Trust me there are lots of other rapists out there that don't get the media attention. The vast majority of whom have never been sentenced. If you look into the report and conviction rate in this country its horrific.

syklops

Rachiee wrote: »

You would think he is the only rapist in the country the way people go on. Trust me there are lots of other rapists out there that don't get the media attention. The vast majority of whom have never been sentenced. If you look into the report and conviction rate in this country its horrific.

There is a news report of a case in front of a judge for rape practically every other day and those are just the ones that make it as far as court. I don't get the fascination with this guy I really don't.

emmabrighton

syklops wrote: »

There is a news report of a case in front of a judge for rape practically every other day and those are just the ones that make it as far as court. I don't get the fascination with this guy I really don't.

Is the fascination not that people think he was a bit of a Ted Bundy type character?

Stalking, raping and allegedly killing multiple victims...

I stand to be corrected but wasn't he in the process of having her dig her own grave out in the woods when two lampers saw him and thought he was doing the dirt on his missus and decided to give him a start. Only to realise that he was actually in the midst of a kidnap/murder?!?!?

The fact that it is something right out of CSI Vegas is what has me freaked :eek:

downonthefarm

Not to mention poor Yvonne and that creep....oh wrong forum

Hitchens

another sleazebag loose

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/convicted-rapist-puts-fear-in-community-30102769.html

Cantremember

On and on and on. Consecutive sentences. ECHR can f**k off. Die in jail.

Son Of A Vidic

TeddyTedson wrote: »

Jesus can people not leave him alone.

We can, preferably in some disused bottomless mine shaft.

Holsten

Hitchens wrote: »

another sleazebag loose

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/convicted-rapist-puts-fear-in-community-30102769.html

Vigilantism at it's finest. :rolleyes:

GenieOz

Holsten wrote: »

Vigilantism at it's finest. :rolleyes:

What's wrong with letting people know about these monsters? Considering their high likelihood of reoffending.

Holsten

GenieOz wrote: »

What's wrong with letting people know about these monsters? Considering their high likelihood of reoffending.

Where did you get that information?

They have an incredibly LOW likelihood of re offense.

Whats wrong is that it causes completely unneeded mass hysteria, mob violence, and increases the chances that a re-offense might occur.

GenieOz

Holsten wrote: »

Where did you get that information?

They have an incredibly LOW likelihood of re offense.

Whats wrong is that it causes completely unneeded mass hysteria, mob violence, and increases the chances that a re-offense might occur.

So because people know of them and are, understandably, hostile towards them..you think that increases their chances of doing the same thing that people are hostile towards them for? Care to explain that logic?


Well a quick google suggest 52% reoffend with another Canadian study suggesting long term of the high 80s.

Holsten

sugarman wrote: »

...and your exactly whats wrong with this fecking country, "ah sure, he done a few years, leave him alone... hes grand now!"

Did you read what he done to those 2 girls? Would you be happy having him as your next door neighbour?

So you don't agree with our system of law then? Go do something about it then. Go to your local TD.

Yes I did read what he done. It was 12 years ago. How much have you changed in the last 12 years?

I wouldn't give two ****s if he lived next door to me. There is more of a chance of a random guy on street trying to rape me than him.