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so Larry Murphy is back in Ireland. *MOD WARNING FIRST POST*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Jesus can people not leave him alone.

    I know! The poor serial rapist! Getting all this unwanted attention.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    This post has been deleted.

    Because public beheadings are no longer legal...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    If he moved into my area, i wouldn't leave my home alone. I don't believe in mob mentality justice, but if he were to move to my area, I'd sure as hell want to know so I could protect myself.
    Protect yourself how?

    Tell me if a career burglar moved in next door would you be as vigilant?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,205 ✭✭✭Gringo180


    He should wear a "wheres wally" costume for the craic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    What is wrong with the people who are pretending he didn't do much? :confused:
    Is it actual insanity or attention-seeking or stupidity or what?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    What is wrong with the people who are pretending he didn't do much? :confused:
    Is it actual insanity or attention-seeking or stupidity or what?
    Why do you keep repeating this?

    Where are you getting this idea from?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Holsten wrote: »
    Why do you keep repeating this?

    Where are you getting this idea from?
    The way you're flippantly saying "Shur anyone could be a Larry Murphy, what would you be worried about?!"

    No. They. Couldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Holsten wrote: »
    Protect yourself how?

    Tell me if a career burglar moved in next door would you be as vigilant?

    There is a massive difference between a convicted burglar and somebody convicted of rape and attempted murder, who seemingly rebuffed any attempts to rehabilitate him while he was in prison.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    The way you're flippantly saying "Shur anyone could be a Larry Murphy, what would you be worried about?!"

    No. They. Couldn't.

    You're saying no-one could be a serial rapist?

    Yes. They. Could. Most people could given the right circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    P_1 wrote: »
    There is a massive difference between a convicted burglar and somebody convicted of rape and attempted murder, who seemingly rebuffed any attempts to rehabilitate him while he was in prison.
    You're completely right there and one is considerably more likely to re-offend.

    Guess which one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    The way you're flippantly saying "Shur anyone could be a Larry Murphy, what would you be worried about?!"

    No. They. Couldn't.
    I'm sure Larry's neighbors thought so too a few years ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    syklops wrote: »
    You're saying no-one could be a serial rapist?
    No? Where the **** did you read me say "no-one could be a serial rapist"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Holsten wrote: »
    I'm sure Larry's neighbors thought so too a few years ago.
    So your "logic" is "Oh just get over feeling worried about the prospect of living near a man whom you know is a convicted rapist who abducted and beat and attempted to suffocate his victim, because once upon a time, people didn't know that and there could easily be another Larry Murphy nearby except you don't know it - shur we're all Larry Murphys."

    And you say you're not trying to be contrarian for the sake of it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭fedor.2.


    syklops wrote: »
    You're saying no-one could be a serial rapist?

    Yes. They. Could. Most people could given the right circumstances.


    And just when I thought this thread couldn't get any stranger, up you pop with this garbage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,634 ✭✭✭Aint Eazy Being Cheezy


    syklops wrote: »
    You're saying no-one could be a serial rapist?

    Yes. They. Could. Most people could given the right circumstances.

    I just wanted to highlight this part. Seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Holsten wrote: »
    You're completely right there and one is considerably more likely to re-offend.

    Guess which one?

    I'm going to presume you'll say the burglar?

    There's a considerable difference between the nature of the two crimes though, and frankly I'm surprised that you don't seem to grasp that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    So your "logic" is "Oh just get over feeling worried about the prospect of living near a man whom you know is a convicted rapist who abducted and beat and attempted to suffocate his victim, because once upon a time, people didn't know that and there could easily be another Larry Murphy nearby except you don't know it - shur we're all Larry Murphys."

    And you say you're not trying to be contrarian for the sake of it?
    Ignorance is bliss.

    The chances of being raped by a Larry Murphy type are EXTREMELY low.

    Most rapists are already known by the their victims, usually they are friends, colleagues, family members, etc..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Some people in society just don't deserve a place. That man is such a person. I wouldn't worry. No matter how hard some try to hide him, anywhere he settles, he'll be known and watched. Id personally prefer he were just watched like a hawk and restricted for the rest of his life but I wouldn't be dismayed if someone battered him or more.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    No? Where the **** did you read me say "no-one could be a serial rapist"?
    The way you're flippantly saying "Shur anyone could be a Larry Murphy, what would you be worried about?!"

    No. They. Couldn't.

    Right up there /\


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    P_1 wrote: »
    I'm going to presume you'll say the burglar?

    There's a considerable difference between the nature of the two crimes though, and frankly I'm surprised that you don't seem to grasp that.
    Well you can change the type of offense to close to anything bar murder and the chances of it happening again are higher than your neighbor Larry breaking in and raping you.

    Point is this fear is completely unneeded and unfounded.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Nobody is defending what he did, but there's a justice system in this country and a police force. Why not spend time trying to have sexual offenders tagged instead of everyone speculating about his whereabouts, it's pointless.
    If you're convicted of a crime in this country and you serve your time, you should be allowed to return to society. I personally think sentencing should be for far longer periods for any dangerous or potentially dangerous crimes against the public.
    Also the man hasn't exactly been doing interviews, who knows what sort of a man he is now. People can and do change in prison albeit not often enough.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    syklops wrote: »
    Right up there /\

    Well what I meant was most people aren't a Larry Murphy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops



    Well what I meant was most people aren't a Larry Murphy.

    So how is that different to what I said?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,971 ✭✭✭Holsten


    Why not spend time trying to have sexual offenders tagged instead of everyone speculating about his whereabouts, it's pointless.
    Why only sexual offenders?

    Why not everyone convicted of any crime?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    Nobody is defending what he did, but there's a justice system in this country and a police force. Why not spend time trying to have sexual offenders tagged instead of everyone speculating about his whereabouts, it's pointless.
    If you're convicted of a crime in this country and you serve your time, you should be allowed to return to society. I personally thinking sentencing should be for far longer periods for any dangerous or potentially dangerous crimes against the public.
    Also the man hasn't exactly been doing interviews, who knows what sort of a man he is now. People can and do change in prison albeit not often enough.
    Well that's a bit more constructive than "Why can't he be left alone" as if he's a poor victim, which just looks trolltastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,681 ✭✭✭✭P_1


    Holsten wrote: »
    Well you can change the type of offense to close to anything bar murder and the chances of it happening again are higher than your neighbor Larry breaking in and raping you.

    Point is this fear is completely unneeded and unfounded.

    Yes some of the hysteria surrounding the "I heard Larry Murphy has moved to Skerries"* type commentary is a bit over the top but the fact does remain that the man was convicted for some pretty damn horrific crimes and has refused to engage with attempts to rehabilitate himself while he was in prison. It is understandable that people will be somewhat nervous if they bumped into him in their local Spar.

    *I was using Skerries as an example, Larry Murphy has not moved there, I repeat he has not moved there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,628 ✭✭✭Femme_Fatale


    syklops wrote: »
    So how is that different to what I said?
    Well you did say "most people could be a serial rapist" (not even Murphy is convicted of that) in the right circumstances.
    Actually sit down and think that one through like.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Well you did say "most people could be a serial rapist" (not even Murphy is convicted of that) in the right circumstances.
    Actually sit down and think that one through like.

    No thanks. Im going to finish my night cap and go to bed. I advise you do the same.


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