Most racist person you ever met.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Italian Americans have many slurs for other races. Mouliyan for African Americans, as well as such charming terms as mooncricket and brillo heads.

They've terms for the Irish also such as white n1gger and spud n1gger. The White Anglo Saxon Protestant's referred to us as Cat-Licks.

Sunglasses Ron

The White Anglo Saxon Protestant's referred to us as Cat-Licks.

Given out internationally renowned unwillingness to bother pronouncing our h sounds (resulting in the turty tree and a tird demands) I should think most Irish people call themselves Catlicks!

Do the Italians have a beef with the Irish or not? I remember on The Sopranos (which has been lauded by ex mobsters and those in the know as being very true to life) Chris was dreaming that he went to hell- an Irish bar where it was Paddy's Day every day :pac: (as well as Kent Brockman and his "everyone is Irish, apart from the Italians and the gays" bit.). But then again, both sets were conservatively Catholic, are the main culturally obvious working class white groups in the North East, and the Irish worked/ work closely with the Italians in organised crime.

maryishere

woodoo wrote: »

This data is for the USA. Look at some of the percentages here. Black people make up 12% of the population in America. Yet account for 50% of arrests for murder/manslaughter and 54% of arrests for robbery. I don't know what the reasons for this are i'll leave others to comment on that. But they are the facts. There is a problem somewhere.

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/tables/43tabledatadecoverviewpdf

Perhaps different countries / races / cultures have different attitudes to crime / work ethic / drunkenness / drugs etc.

RDM_83 again

K-9 wrote: »

Well, maybe you can say what it is caused by because you keep saying it is to do with poverty and unemployment, and other issues. Can you state what these other issues are because we seem to be going round in circles until you clearly state them.

I am taking this from wiki (where every every good internet expert gets his info :cool: )

But I think the highlighted could be very important

Studies examining the relationship between percentages of different races in an area and crime rates have generally either found similar relationships as for nationwide crime rates or no significant relationships. Most often studied are correlations between black and Hispanic populations in a given area and crime. Such data may reveal a possible connection, but is functionally inconclusive due to a variety of other correlating factors which overlap with race and ethnicity.[41] While there is a correlation between blacks and Hispanics and crime, the data implies a stronger tie between poverty and crime than crime and any racial group, when gender is taken into consideration.[41] The direct correlation between crime and class, when factoring for race alone, is relatively weak. When gender, and familial history are factored, class correlates more strongly with crime than race or ethnicity.[42][43] Studies indicate that areas with low socioeconomic status may have the greatest correlation of crime with young and adult males, regardless of racial composition, though its effect on females is negligible

If you consider a situation where prison is normalized (focusing on the fact that incarceration happens not why there is incarceration) to an extent in a community or family group as well as the probable negative impact of removal of male role models to me at least it would seem that the penalties for crime could become accepted as part of life.

harry Bailey esq

i know a guy that grew up in southern Rhodesia(white landowners) and he was the most racist person I've ever encountered,funny thing was his racism was casual,flippant even.He couldn't get his head round the fact that black and white are equal,and he wasn't shy talking at length about it

donegal_man

I got the following from one of our local anti austerity campaigners "what would you expect from a government that has a y*d an' a half baked n****r in it?" And when pulled on it he replied "It's not racist when it's the truth."

Nodin

Killer Wench wrote: »

I was in New Orleans with friends for Spring Break. There was this bar that, oddly, had washer and dryers at the back of the room. I was sitting at the bar while my friends were washing their clothes.

I mean, the setup alone should give an indication of how strange the encounter was.

Any observer of American films and tv could tell you that its on spring break that the bad stuff happens. At least you didn't go to somebodys cabin.

sabat

Killer Wench wrote: »

I was in New Orleans with friends for Spring Break. There was this bar that, oddly, had washer and dryers at the back of the room.

Igor's on St Charles Avenue?

Pug160

K-9 wrote: »

Well, maybe you can say what it is caused by because you keep saying it is to do with poverty and unemployment, and other issues. Can you state what these other issues are because we seem to be going round in circles until you clearly state them.

I don't know what the other causes are. There are theories - but that's all they are. In my opinion though, a soft approach to crime and anarchy is no better than a heavy handed one. Society should expect more from everyone - underdog or not. I appreciate that some people have an affinity with minorities (and black people in particular, maybe) because they feel as though they have experienced discrimination themselves. Some women, for example, might feel that way. Then you have people with ironclad ideologies who wear rose tinted glasses. Is it equality we actually want? Should everybody be expected to at least know right from wrong? I think that should be a minimum requirement.

Riddle101

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Given out internationally renowned unwillingness to bother pronouncing our h sounds (resulting in the turty tree and a tird demands) I should think most Irish people call themselves Catlicks!

Do the Italians have a beef with the Irish or not? I remember on The Sopranos (which has been lauded by ex mobsters and those in the know as being very true to life) Chris was dreaming that he went to hell- an Irish bar where it was Paddy's Day every day :pac: (as well as Kent Brockman and his "everyone is Irish, apart from the Italians and the gays" bit.). But then again, both sets were conservatively Catholic, are the main culturally obvious working class white groups in the North East, and the Irish worked/ work closely with the Italians in organised crime.

I've read that Italian and Irish Americans have had beef in the past. Think a lot of it stems from immigrants competing for work/jobs. I also believe this is also the same case with African-Americans too, and why there tends to be racism between them. You could also add to the fact that generally Irish people lived in predominately Irish neighborhoods, Italians in Italian neighborhoods and African-Americans in colored neighborhoods, which to me seems like there was conscious belief to stick to your own in the past, and that added to the rivalries.

That being said of course, times maybe changing. I've also read that South Boston has changed quite a bit demographically. It used to be where the Irish dominated, and was where the Winter Hill Gang were based. While the Italians were in North Boston. But now there are different ethnic groups living in the South, so it's changing. Wonder how the Irish in Boston are feeling about that.

Anyways, since this thread has talked about ethnic slurs, I decided to post this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxKXLqlxCfc

Nodin

Pug160 wrote: »

I don't know what the other causes are. There are theories - but that's all they are...........

Do you agree with them?

What are they?

Donkey Oaty

Pug160 wrote: »

Is it equality we actually want? Should everybody be expected to at least know right from wrong? I think that should be a minimum requirement.

Minimum requirement for what?

Killer Wench

Nodin wrote: »

Any observer of American films and tv could tell you that its on spring break that the bad stuff happens. At least you didn't go to somebodys cabin.

Not a cabin. But his condo.


My friends were washing their clothes and I was at the bar asking for a cup of coffee. Some dude next to me asked if I was wanting an Irish coffee. I told him no.

The dude then starts in on some Irish jokes. He said it was fine to insult the Irish since he was half-Irish and half-Italian. Then he said, "What does an Irish man say to his wife in the morning? Nut'n, honey. (It's a cereal here). What does a black man say to his baby mama? Nuthing bitch." So then he launches into black jokes. I finish my coffee and pay the bartender. She gives me an apologetic look. I mumble something about needing the manager to throw this guy out. The bartender looks at me then the guy and says, "He is the manager."

I walk away, back to my friends. The dude follows me and starts in on more racist jokes. My two friends were English so once he heard their accents, he calmed down a bit. He asked them if they had ever been to Boston as that was where he was from. He was completely drunk and my friend thought it was particularly hilarious to have a conversation with this dude. I don't remember much of that conversation but she started asking about where he lived. He told us he had a condo not far from the bar. There was a large pool out front. He invites me over but I decline. My friend accepts. My other friend agrees to go back to his place. They talk me into going so that they can swim.

So they finish their laundry and off we go back to his place. He shows us around. My talkative friend grabs the remote and turns on the tv. It was on a porn channel. She asks if she can order a porn movie and says go for it. He brings out drinks and snuggles down next to me. We're all watching porn for a bit; he's getting ideas about him and me. My friends "excuse" themselves to change into their swimsuits. I jump up and start looking at his photos. He's like some martial artist. That distracted him until my friends came out and we went out to the pool.

They all jump in the pool. I sit in the lawn chairs watching. I'm a bit concerned because ol' dude was still drunk. He climbs out and starts giving me lap dances. I push him away but he keeps coming back. Eventually, he realizes that he's not getting any from me so he kicks us out.

The Aussie

Killer Wench wrote: »

climbs out and starts giving me lap dances. I push him away but he keeps coming back. Eventually, he realizes that he's not getting any from me so he kicks us out.

Your a chick?

Don't know why I thought otherwise, I'm cracking open a Beer.

Killer Wench

Seriously.


The Wench actually confuses people?

El Guapo!

Killer Wench wrote: »

Seriously.


The Wench actually confuses people?

I always thought it said Wrench up until about 6 months ago.

Killer Wench

Are y'all confusing me with Knife Wrench?

The Aussie

Killer Wench wrote: »

Seriously.


The Wench actually confuses people?

No no, I'm just a bit slow, ignore me, I think there is a ignore button there somewhere for just such people as me, sorry.

somefeen

Sure how can the Irish be racist? Sure don't we have a statue of Phil Lynot?

maryishere

somefeen wrote: »

Sure how can the Irish be racist?

Would you say ABE's are racist ( those who attitude in competitions is Anyone But England? )

Reminds me of a teacher at school who was given a tin of biscuits at Christmas once. he refused to accept it as it was " Made in England". Said teacher used to say " burn everything British but their coal". I would say we have had a few racists over the decades too.

steddyeddy

Killer Wench wrote: »

Are y'all confusing me with Knife Wrench?

Actually yes! Sorry

Legs.Eleven

While I can't say I would associate that stereotype with the Chinese, a great deal of stereotypes are largely true regarding the group at which they are aimed. It would take some level of idiot to deny that, as a group/ culture, the Irish like a drink, for example.

Her Chinese comment was just the tip of the iceberg. None of what she was saying was justified or true and it was all hate-filled.

Crann na Beatha

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Nodin

Phoenix wrote: »

I got various racist slurs and xenophobic crap shouted at me in various jobs
wont forget some guys in a white van driving by me "telling me to go back to the paddy fields ya Chinese bastard"
i'm not Chinese nor do i have an Asian appearance
Idiots!

......its a sad day when they can't even hold it in till the appropriate minority appears.

Crann na Beatha

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K-9

Pug160 wrote: »

I don't know what the other causes are. There are theories - but that's all they are.

Well, if you don't know what they are, why are you blathering on about them?

In my opinion though, a soft approach to crime and anarchy is no better than a heavy handed one. Society should expect more from everyone - underdog or not. I appreciate that some people have an affinity with minorities (and black people in particular, maybe) because they feel as though they have experienced discrimination themselves. Some women, for example, might feel that way. Then you have people with ironclad ideologies who wear rose tinted glasses. Is it equality we actually want? Should everybody be expected to at least know right from wrong? I think that should be a minimum requirement.

I'm still wondering why you brought this up on a thread about racism?

DEFTLEFTHAND

Sunglasses Ron wrote: »

Given out internationally renowned unwillingness to bother pronouncing our h sounds (resulting in the turty tree and a tird demands) I should think most Irish people call themselves Catlicks!

Do the Italians have a beef with the Irish or not? I remember on The Sopranos (which has been lauded by ex mobsters and those in the know as being very true to life) Chris was dreaming that he went to hell- an Irish bar where it was Paddy's Day every day :pac: (as well as Kent Brockman and his "everyone is Irish, apart from the Italians and the gays" bit.). But then again, both sets were conservatively Catholic, are the main culturally obvious working class white groups in the North East, and the Irish worked/ work closely with the Italians in organised crime.

Sicilian immigrant Salvatore Lucky Luciano redefined the Sicilian American Mafia and structured it into Five Families in 1932. He had grown up in a mixed community so he would have spent his formative years in street gangs with plenty of Irish and Jewish kids. So in NYC at least that's where the working relationship in organised crime came from with the Irish and Italians.

The Italians still always viewed them as lackies though and not equal partners, Their Cosa Nostra was structured with set rules and ranks and codes stemming from the original Mafia groups in Italy, 'the man of honour'.

Irish gangs were free for alls full of degenerate thugs using excessive violence and drawing police attention. They weren't street smart, the Italians were more refined and savy and would only use brute force when neccessary.

daveyeh

The percentage of white people vs chinese living below the poverty line in black ghettos is shocking. Joe.

HughWotMVIII

MonstaMash wrote: »

In my experience, through many interactions with Africans (& I served in Sierra Leone, Rwanda & Djibouti), an awful lot of them do have a chip on their shoulder & are just as rascist as white supremascists.

I am late to this party but I am calling BS on this post.

I am Rwandan, and we may be many things, a few of them quite unsavoury - see genocide - but we are not known for being racist towards white people or xenophobic. We reserve all our hate for our own people .

There's a large expat community here and many of them almost always end up staying longer than they intended because they feel welcome.

In addition, the Irish population in Rwanda rarely goes above 30; what do you mean by "served"?

con___manx1

The person in question is My local doctor.
I was watching the rugby one night in a quite pub. He was shouting stuff at the tv like take that ****** down and ****in black k**t right through a whole ireland match.