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Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Pierce_1991


    Is the game on TV anywhere today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,096 ✭✭✭An Citeog


    Is the game on TV anywhere today?

    Deferred coverage on TG4.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Pierce_1991


    An Citeog wrote: »
    Deferred coverage on TG4.

    Ah right, cheers. I see Clare v Kilkenny is on live. Should be a cracker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Ah right, cheers. I see Clare v Kilkenny is on live. Should be a cracker.

    As a Dublin fan you will want to give it a skip, trust me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Joekers


    I concur


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Pierce_1991


    As a Dublin fan you will want to give it a skip, trust me.

    The Galway match? I was avoiding the score, was gonna watch the deferred coverage but if it's been a very bad one I might give it a miss?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    The Galway match? I was avoiding the score, was gonna watch the deferred coverage but if it's been a very bad one I might give it a miss?

    Sorry for spoiling it on you then, I should have known you were trying to avoid it :(

    But yeah, give it a miss would be my advice. So bad if they were to play like it again I wouldn't go around the corner to watch never mind travel 6+ hours across the country and back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭68deville


    Can't believe how bad Dublin were,ok it's early days but it was a fairly
    Full strength team with a few new faces,daly not a happy man,need to
    Pick it up for next game


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Pierce_1991


    Sorry for spoiling it on you then, I should have known you were trying to avoid it :(

    But yeah, give it a miss would be my advice. So bad if they were to play like it again I wouldn't go around the corner to watch never mind travel 6+ hours across the country and back.

    No I'm glad I didn't watch the full game now. Hopefully we can turns things around next time out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,635 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    No I'm glad I didn't watch the full game now. Hopefully we can turns things around next time out.


    Clare up next in Parnell. No easy game:(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,793 ✭✭✭coolisin


    68deville wrote: »
    Can't believe how bad Dublin were,ok it's early days but it was a fairly
    Full strength team with a few new faces,daly not a happy man,need to
    Pick it up for next game

    This!!
    I was hoping it was a young team, when I knew the score before watching the coverage.
    The game reminded me of the Dub v Kilkenny match 2012 when they played for 5-10 mins then just gave up!
    I know its an early game and all but they still should have being better.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Gary Maguire, Peter Kelly, Liam Rushe, Stephen Hiney, Ryan O'Dwyer, John McCaffrey, Conal Keaney, David Treacy, Danny Sutcliffe; Dotsy O'Callaghan, Paul Ryan - those same 11 played yesterday played against Cork last year. It was a near full strength Dublin, there are no excuses here. We got completely routed by Galway, no two ways about it.

    The pitch was pretty shíte but both teams were playing on it. Dublin played for about 5 minutes and fell to bits after it. Galway were sharp, quick and fit. Dublin looked unfit, especially at the back - I'm going to name Peter Kelly who was bending over struggling after 20 minutes as a prime example. Galway were quick to the ball and stuck to the man. Dublin gave them ample room for turns, runs and to shoot with ease from 30-40m out. It really did remind me strongly of 2012 when after a great 2011 we fell apart in the league the following year. I don't want a repeat of it this year, not after winning the Leinster and putting on a display I was proud to witness in Croker against Cork last August.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 562 ✭✭✭Comordha


    They just looked very tired & groggy, they must have been over-trained or something, I wouldn't read into it too much for that reason. Players like Rushe, Kelly, Keaney & Sutcliffe don't just fade away. We've seen these guys play some incredible hurling a few years in a row now and they are consistent. They'll be back come the business end.

    On a brighter note, I thought Cian O'Callaghan was very impressive on his debut.

    Clare will be a very difficult challenge this weekend but no game is easy in Division 1A.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Cian had a good enough game I thought - he'll get better with more experience.

    Dublin weren't impressive in the Walsh cup either o be fair and with Clare as the next match it doesn't get any easier - it's time to pull up the socks and start playing to their true potential consistently. The absolute worst aspects of the team are the lack of consistency and the bipolar performances. When they pull it off they are mesmerising and capable of bringing tears to eyes, but when they don't it's nearly always a comprehensive loss (even if not judging by the scoreboard). I can draw comparisons to the football where those lads can grind out a win on an off day, this just doesn't seem to be possible for the hurlers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,019 ✭✭✭✭beakerjoe


    The didnt look sharp at all yesterday, compared to Glaway they looked out of shape and short of breath after about 20 mins. Still early days mind you and could be the kick up the backside they need. I fear a repeat of 2012 though :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,799 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    I hope none of ye said anything ye are going to regret about the whole Seanie Johnston thing!

    http://www.livegaelic.com/news/antrims-liam-watson-dublin-transfer-link/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Ah, it might just be nothing - especially since Watson really wants to stick with his club. The approach seems to be based around the fact he's not getting inter-county games with Antrim and suggests Daly believes there's a spot for him in the Dublin team, I don't think there's much wrong with that personally as long as there's no fudging of the rules. I always believed the thing with Seanie was the question over whether he ever really upped roots and moved to Kildare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,799 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Ah, it might just be nothing - especially since Watson really wants to stick with his club. The approach seems to be based around the fact he's not getting inter-county games with Antrim and suggests Daly believes there's a spot for him in the Dublin team, I don't think there's much wrong with that personally as long as there's no fudging of the rules. I always believed the thing with Seanie was the question over whether he ever really upped roots and moved to Kildare.

    It's a big question then isn't it as to whether we feel ok with putting players through the whole rigmarole that Johnston had to go through.

    It's a difficult one to answer because eventually it could lead to players from clubs in one county playing Intercounty with their more successful neighbours but it's hard to deny a guy the chance to play at the highest level for a team that wants him when he's denied the chance for personal reasons in his own county.

    I find myself very conflicted on the subject.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Despite how you feel about it personally we all know there's an incredible element of tribalism to the GAA. There'll always be Dublin/Meath and Kerry/Anybody rivalries, it just adds to the atmosphere for those games. I wouldn't be happy for example to see the Brogans jump ship because Dublin weren't winning Sam, they're panel players. At the same time you've got people who are no longer in the panel like Craig Dias and Eamonn Fennell and I couldn't begrudge them a shot at Sam with another county. As you say - where do you draw the line to stop players swapping counties every season, where would loyalty come into it then? It is, after all, an amateur game.

    It's a topic for the wider GAA community and much like you I'm full of conflicting views. So conflicted in fact that, if I espoused on them some more I'd very quickly highlight my hypocrisy :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,799 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Despite how you feel about it personally we all know there's an incredible element of tribalism to the GAA. There'll always be Dublin/Meath and Kerry/Anybody rivalries, it just adds to the atmosphere for those games. I wouldn't be happy for example to see the Brogans jump ship because Dublin weren't winning Sam, they're panel players. At the same time you've got people who are no longer in the panel like Craig Dias and Eamonn Fennell and I couldn't begrudge them a shot at Sam with another county. As you say - where do you draw the line to stop players swapping counties every season, where would loyalty come into it then? It is, after all, an amateur game.

    It's a topic for the wider GAA community and much like you I'm full of conflicting views. So conflicted in fact that, if I espoused on them some more I'd very quickly highlight my hypocrisy :o

    Yeah I've nothing to disagree with in there. I think at the time I defended Johnston somewhat, saying if he was good enough for county football in his own county but couldn't get a game for non-playing reasons he shouldn't be subjected to the sort of measures he was as an amateur.

    Only a small leap then though for say footballers not good enough for Kerry to declare themselves for Limerick etc which would see the whole thing ruined.

    We're lucky in Ireland w.r.t rugby that provincial allegiances have largely remained in the 20 or so years that players moving around has become viable, but you can see it already starting to erode as more money enters and clubs can start to hoover up talent a la soccer.

    When the lionshare of the work is centralised around a small few places in Ireland you could see it going a similar way even when guys are moving for legitimate reasons of work, never mind when transfers are happening purely for the sake of the sports.

    I don't like the idea of dictating to amateur players in these circumstances but it's starting to seem to me that it might be the lesser of the two evils.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,706 ✭✭✭blue note


    If Dublin manage to sign Liam Watson we'd actually see all 4 provinces represented in their team.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    It's fairly late in the evening but the DCB have released a statement denying they approached Watson.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,952 ✭✭✭✭Stoner


    Thanks for that, I couldn't see him being approached anyway, but if a player wants to go I think he should be allowed to go, from a club anyway, the fennel thing was a joke IMHO.

    I still think some type of regional grouped teams should be formed, the standard should be as high as possible, same in football some neighbouring County teams joining up might stop this, you'd still get someone who fell out from that too but it might help.

    Also maybe wwithin the league the weakest league teams could play to be good enough to get back out and be a dedicated County again, so let's say Wexford had a bad run they could be in with a leinster team, then they get strong again and move up the league and out of the leinster team for the championship a player from any County in a province could make the provincial team, but not their County and provincial team, this might help this lad. All that said it might just be a Kilkenny A & B team in leinster and indeed the same for Antrim and ulster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Pierce_1991


    Have a Parnell Park ticket for the terrace but want to bring me younger brother today and he'd need to sit in the stand really. Anyone know would they let me into the seats with it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    Great win today!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭anuprising


    hi going to be abroad for the match next Saturday , does anyone know how to watch it online or got a link ?
    thanks in advance


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,429 ✭✭✭Pierce_1991


    Brilliant performance from the lads today, they got off to a great start and then held Clare at arms length for the full match. Liam Rushe and Conal Keaney in particular were excellent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 496 ✭✭68deville


    Dalys ould mate kept him in a much needed job for a bit longer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,582 ✭✭✭TouchingVirus


    Yesterday was a good day. Seeing a good crowd in the Neller It was a welcome change from the O'Byrne Cup and Galway attendances :D And now to the actual performance - what a response from the shambles of last week. Liam Rushe was a talisman at the back, the support he gave the midfield and forwards from the puck outs was phenomenal and he was dogged in defence. Conal Keaney was in flying form and looked dangerous any time he had the sliothar. Alan McCrabbe was a welcome addition who provided some much needed scores from frees and that sublime sideline point was a thing of beauty earning some well deserved applause from both sides in the stands. Peter Kelly had a good match and that was a welcome change from huffing and puffing after 20 minutes like in Galway, glad to see him getting the form back. We're still not up to Championship standards obviously but after a false start we're finally going in the right direction.

    Overall I thought Alan Kelly had an abysmal match. He was often off the pace, a good 30 yards away from play, and calling frees on both sides that simply weren't or missing things that were. Some Clare fans I spoke to felt particularly aggrieved about Shane O'Donnell's handling throughout the match by the Dublin backline. I was frustrated at his lack of bottle to stamp out that niggly, thorny shíte that grew and grew in the last 20 minutes - take out the card, dish out the warnings and stop the handbags in their tracks.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Santa Cruz


    Yesterday was a good day. Seeing a good crowd in the Neller It was a welcome change from the O'Byrne Cup and Galway attendances :D And now to the actual performance - what a response from the shambles of last week. Liam Rushe was a talisman at the back, the support he gave the midfield and forwards from the puck outs was phenomenal and he was dogged in defence. Conal Keaney was in flying form and looked dangerous any time he had the sliothar. Alan McCrabbe was a welcome addition who provided some much needed scores from frees and that sublime sideline point was a thing of beauty earning some well deserved applause from both sides in the stands. Peter Kelly had a good match and that was a welcome change from huffing and puffing after 20 minutes like in Galway, glad to see him getting the form back. We're still not up to Championship standards obviously but after a false start we're finally going in the right direction.

    Overall I thought Alan Kelly had an abysmal match. He was often off the pace, a good 30 yards away from play, and calling frees on both sides that simply weren't or missing things that were. Some Clare fans I spoke to felt particularly aggrieved about Shane O'Donnell's handling throughout the match by the Dublin backline. I was frustrated at his lack of bottle to stamp out that niggly, thorny shíte that grew and grew in the last 20 minutes - take out the card, dish out the warnings and stop the handbags in their tracks.


    If Cork had handled O Donnell like Kelly and the boys did yesterday they would have another All Ireland


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