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Dublin GAA Discussion Thread MOD WARNING POST #2944
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A well put together post, I would echo most of your points except Cork deserving every free they got. While the discipline was poor from Dublin there were some soft frees given and some things from Cork going unpunished. I thought there should have at least been one black card for a blatant pull down but it only got a yellow
This wasn't a game I could blame the referee on winning for Cork, it was a game Dublin lost. They weren't cohesive enough, there was an incredible overlap missing late into the second half that resulted in a point but could have resulted in a goal to break Cork's back. They were out on their feet around 60 minutes having put in quite the shift against us, we should have drove on in the final minutes and put them to the sword.
It's a constant talking point, but your comment about MDMA's position being under no threat is correct and worrying. Dublin need better midfielders, Carthy is not it anyways and neither is Mahoney.0 -
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TouchingVirus wrote: »A well put together post, I would echo most of your points except Cork deserving every free they got. While the discipline was poor from Dublin there were some soft frees given and some things from Cork going unpunished. I thought there should have at least been one black card for a blatant pull down but it only got a yellow
This wasn't a game I could blame the referee on winning for Cork, it was a game Dublin lost. They weren't cohesive enough, there was an incredibly overlap missing late into the second half that resulted in a point but could have resulted in a goal to break Cork's back. They were out of their feet around 60 minutes having put in quite the shift against us, we should have drove on in the final minutes and put them to the sword.
It's a constant talking point, but your comment about MDMA's position being under no threat is correct and worrying. Dublin need better midfielders, Carthy is not it anyways and neither is Mahoney.
Dint think anyone is blaming the referee, we had more then enough chance to win and can blame only ourselves. That said we should have had a free in the lead up their goal.0 -
TouchingVirus wrote: »A well put together post, I would echo most of your points except Cork deserving every free they got. While the discipline was poor from Dublin there were some soft frees given and some things from Cork going unpunished. I thought there should have at least been one black card for a blatant pull down but it only got a yellow
This wasn't a game I could blame the referee on winning for Cork, it was a game Dublin lost. They weren't cohesive enough, there was an incredibly overlap missing late into the second half that resulted in a point but could have resulted in a goal to break Cork's back. They were out of their feet around 60 minutes having put in quite the shift against us, we should have drove on in the final minutes and put them to the sword.
It's a constant talking point, but your comment about MDMA's position being under no threat is correct and worrying. Dublin need better midfielders, Carthy is not it anyways and neither is Mahoney.
I thought James McCarthy did ok there in second half and he plays there for the club. May have made himself an option.
Re the black card, for such a fussy ref he let himself down badly in my opinion on that aspect. mcmaneman was hauled back by jersey through on goal and 7 for Cork given neither a black or a yellow. Later on same player rugby tackles out wide left and after a long discussion ref gives him a yellow not a black?
Poor work. Ref must have wasted 5 or 6 minutes on his own just talking to players and discussing things with linesmen and umpires, there are about 10 subs in second half, cork waste time going down injured, hoping back up when there is a goal chance then going back down injured. and then we only get 2 added minutes?
None of it is why we lost, but it's the same poor quality reffing as we saw throughout last year across most high level games. It's not good enough.0 -
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Well imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. and to that end you'd have to applaud the Cork performance on Saturday full of vigour and athleticism and a radical change to what we'd seen last year with their over reliance on the hoofball into Sheehan. Cork were back to their clinical best with their general point scoring and particularly the free taking which was our ultimate demise in both the 2010 AI SF and League Final.
We've a habit here of reflecting on the dominance of the opposition midfield through different stages of a game - but ultimately the Dublin midfield in whatever guise eventually get a stranglehold on a game in the latter stages. Their direct opponents are nearly always physically bigger and giving away a fair height difference but ultimately the greater agility/fitness tends to turn the tide. Goold and Walsh dominated the 1st half, but the tank ran dry for both of them - the blueprint wont change this year either - stay with them for 50 mins and impose their greater endurance late on.
Dublin weren't as dynamic as we've seen them previously .. I think Jack Mc was on the pitch over half an hour before we saw one of his lung bursters, he seemed quite content dinking 20-30 yard passes into the HF line. On the other hand Philly was offering great support running but then inexplicably putting the brakes on and taking the pace out of the attack turning back in on himself.
As others have said the kicking and shot selection was poor, strangely 2 of the biggest culprits Carthy & Reddin also scored fantastic points. I felt that the success of this years outfit was dependent on 1 or 2 new lads forcing their way into the shake up, so far I've seen little other than the emergence of Costello - and to be honest we're really quite ok in the front 6, I'd hoped that George may have forced his way into a corner back role with KOB gone for the year - Mick Fitz likewise was a bit at sea at times.
Finally was great to see the comeback of Colm O'Neill, young fella has been through the mill and I had only spoken with him last year 3 weeks before his injury when he was full of enthusiasm for the coming year.
I hope he picks up a losers medal this year
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Finally was great to see the comeback of Colm O'Neill, young fella has been through the mill and I had only spoken with him last year 3 weeks before his injury when he was full of enthusiasm for the coming year.
I hope he picks up a losers medal this year
I enjoyed the match last week, particularly the first fifteen minutes. I thought the pace of that period was exceptional, although I wouldn't have been overly thrilled by some of the defending on both sides during that period.
Costello had a great first half. Reddin was wasteful on occasion but scored a couple of fine points. Our full back line needs a lot of work, and looked much more effective when Johnny Cooper went back.
Giving McCarthy a run in midfield was long overdue. He played quite well and is definitely an option. Is Bastic injured or still in hibernation. Paul Flynn has to be given a run in midfield at some stage.
I haven't seen Kevin Mac work as hard throughout a match as he did last weekend. He wasn't brilliant by any stretch of the imagination but he worked his socks off.
Finally, I have to echo DoctaDee's comment about Colm O'Neill. Fine player. Delighted for him.0 -
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